DC DC - Relisha Tenau Rudd, 8, SE DC, 26 Feb 2014 - #9

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Thanks for staying on top of this kimi and SCHMAE.
Has Daphne's grandfather reacted to this development? I can't imagine what he must be feeling. My heart breaks when I think of what might have happened to this beautiful baby.
 
  • #582
Where is Relisha?
 
  • #583
I will tell you where she is not ! She is NOT on the Amber Alert website anymore. :(
Come home little one !
 
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Russ Ptacek, WUSA9 ‏@RussPtacek 6m
#MISSING RT @leslifoster: They are not forgotten. Help @wusa9 #BringThemHome. Relisha & others need us
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Wendiesan, the "Thanks" button will never be enough - because I don't care what it took - as long as Relisha is back on the NCMEC website until she is found!

Russ Ptacek, :tyou: Sir for caring!

And SCHMAE :loveyou: for bringing this to our attention to begin with.

We are #TeamRelisha here and we do care!

:grouphug:

#FindRelishaRudd


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I still think of Relisha. When I do I see her dancing. Sigh......
 
  • #591
That's because she was added to the missing kids databases. http://www.missingkids.com/poster/NCMC/1229904/1

The point of our dismay is Relisha losing her AA status so quietly, without any explanation from LE or the NCMEC for that matter. For such a high profile case, this is worrying.

It is also part of a disturbing trend. If you will note the posts upthread, the names of other children this happened to are noted.

What are the protocols for removing a child's AA status? Does anyone know?

That status is very important IMO.

#FindRelisha


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The point of our dismay is Relisha losing her AA status so quietly, without any explanation from LE or the NCMEC for that matter. For such a high profile case, this is worrying. It is also part of a disturbing trend. If you will note the posts upthread, the names of other children this happened to are noted. What are the protocols for removing a child's AA status? Does anyone know? That status is very important IMO. #Find Relisha Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Sorry, Kimi, but I haven't been able to pin down the protocol. But I believe LE has specific criteria which are not meant to be used as public information. This is just a guess. The statements I've run into have been carefully worded to state that the AA will be used as long as it is both needed and is effective as an LE investigative tool. The protocol for activation and for following deactivation are pretty clear. Just not the criteria for ordering the deactivation of the Amber Alert itself. I think we're wondering why the recommended public thanking of the various AA partners was done so quietly (if at all) in this case. Again, JMO.

Below is information regarding Amber Alerts in British Columbia sent to the Transit Police who are responsible for security of buses, sea-buses (passenger ferries between North Van and Vancouver), and Skytrains (hence the nickname Sky Cops for those covering our Light Rail Transit system). [Usually I know an Amber Alert is in effect in BC when I notice the announcements running on the buses--all the buses display Amber Alert information on the bus destination signs.] Several paragraphs are redacted, but, in reading it, I got a much better appreciation for the complexity of the process for a force partnering the primary police force involved in sending out an Amber Alert notification.

In BC the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) E Division Major Crime Section--BC Police Missing Persons Centre is responsible for the Amber Alert Program in the province. The Sky Cops, et al, like the Vancouver Police Department, New Westminster Police, and so on, are partners with the RCMP in the Amber Alert System.

1. RCMP “E” Division Major Crime Section – BC Police Missing Persons Center is responsible for the AMBER (America's Missing Broadcast Emergency Response) Alert Program for both the Division RCMP and BC police agencies. All requests for an AMBER Alert must be made through the AMBER Alert line (1-888-542-6237) and meet the criteria and be recommended by the police service commander/designate.
1. The Amber Alert Program is administered by the RCMP “E” Division AMBER Alert Coordinator who also provides training and consultation.
2. Approval of AMBER Alerts throughout BC will be undertaken by the RCMP Lower Mainland District Regional Duty Officer (RDO)/designate.
http://www.transitpolice.bc.ca/~/me...es/ob400 amber alert tp101213 redacted.ashx

AMBER Alert is a province-wide, innovative partnership that involves:
law enforcement agencies in BC
BC Ministry of Transportation and Infrastructure
BC Association of Broadcasters,
Canada’s wireless telecommunications industry,
Child Find BC, and
an ever expanding list of external partners.
http://bc.cb.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/ViewPage.action?siteNodeId=23&languageId=1&contentId=4697

Regarding the length of an Amber Alert for a particular child, the RCMP is not specific.
The duration of an alert will depend on the circumstances surrounding the abduction and will vary from one incident to the next.
http://bc.cb.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/ViewPage.action?siteNodeId=23&languageId=1&contentId=4697

I would point out that there is a heading called Cancellation Criteria in the Transit Police Document under which there are two sections. "19. One or more of the following criteria must exist before cancelling an AMBER Alert:" and "20. An AMBER Alert may be cancelled only by the Watch Commander and only when the cancellation criteria exist." The paragraphs under those headings have been redacted. A little more clarity is found in a document from RCMP regarding Amber Alerts.

When an AMBER Alert is activated, broadcast media will interrupt their regular programming. They will air the Amber Alert at various timelines for approximately six hours or until such time as the Alert is cancelled either upon the successful conclusion of the investigation or when the Alert is considered no longer effective.
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/mb/prog-serv/alerte-amber-alert-eng.htm

Recently, reporters were asking LE similar questions about deactivating the Amber Alert for Nathan O'Brien when, although the alleged murder of the five year old boy and his grandparents had been arrested, the bodies have not yet been found. This had been done despite the knowledge of another aspect of Amber Alert protocol in the U.S.

The AMBER Alert should be deactivated when the child is recovered even if the suspect is still at large. The deactivation of an AMBER Alert will likely lead to additional responsibilities for the PIO.
http://www.ojjdp.gov/pubs/232271.pdf

Calgary LE responded to reporters' questions.
Investigators met with Crown prosecutors on Sunday to go over evidence that had been gathered over the two weeks, he said. They determined charges were warranted. An Amber Alert issued shortly after the family members were reported missing was also cancelled.

“It was clear at that point that this was no longer a missing persons investigation. This was a homicide investigation,” Hanson said...
Despite the charges, the police chief said the case is not closed and investigators will continue to search for bodies of little Nathan and his grandparents.
http://thechronicleherald.ca/canada...ary-boy-grandparents-still-hope-they-re-alive

The Department of Justice publishes a very informative downloadable epamphlet called Amber Alert Best Practices.
http://www.ojjdp.gov/pubs/232271.pdf
The Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention also publishes an epamphlet. Theirs is called Missing and Abducted Children: A Law-Enforcement Guide to Case Investigation and Program Management.
http://www.missingkids.com/en_US/publications/NC74.pdf

The following information is published by the government of Indiana.
When is an Amber Alert terminated?

An Amber Alert runs for 5 hours from the initial EAS alert. The first few hours are the most crucial. Under normal circumstances, the Amber Alert should be considered complete 5 hours after the initial EAS activation. The two exceptions to this rule would be if the IASAC receiver’s enough new or updated information to issue a new EAS activation. The process starts over from that time. The other exception would occur if the IASAC was to determine that conditions warranted an early termination. Stations would receive a fax advising the case has been resolved and the Amber Alert notification would be removed from the state’s Amber Alert website.

STATIONS SHOULD NOT REPORT THE TERMINATION OF AN AMBER ALERT UNTIL NOTIFIED OF TERMINATION BY THE INDIANA AMBER and SILVER ALERT CENTER (IASAC).
http://www.in.gov/amberalert/2339.htm

It just seems that Amber Alerts must be flexible in order to be used to help those whom it was designed to protect. However, maybe posters with a LE background will shed more light on this very complex system.
 
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Thank you Wendiesan. I was thinking about her last night and realized one of the main details for an AA is a PERP and/ or VEHICLE and with KT dead, maybe that might have had something to do with it. Of course, she's still missing :( But the perp and vehicle that were on the AA are no longer valid. Which is actually untrue because KT still may have taken her somewhere in her vehicle. But I guess looking for perp/vehicle at this point is more of a confusion if you never heard about the case and saw the AA .
 
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Wendiesan, :tyou: for a stellar, informative post on Amber Alert termination protocols. It is clear you took the time, care and effort to research and collate the data, and presented it in a manner that makes sense in an often senseless world.

Thank you for helping to find answers for us. I have had many sleepless nights worrying about this issue, and I believe this may allay some of my own fears that there was something more sinister going on.

I truly hope the reason for the status changes of these children, including Relisha, are protocol- and/or criteria-driven. The community-at-large is likely unaware of the inner workings, and I'm not sure if that's how LE wants it. I have my own opinions that may conflict with current protocols / what a PIO thinks :blushing:

Perhaps a certain DC journo will see your amazing post and investigate this further. It is a part of Relisha's story, and I hope he documents it.

You make me very VERY proud to be a :websleuther:

:loveyou:

#FindRelisha

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  • #596
Thanks Kimi.
This case has really resonated with me, as it has with so many people who have posted their own very private stories on this thread.
I don't think LE would be involved in anything sinister re AA, especially on this case. For one thing, when protocol is followed there are so many checks and balances that it would be difficult to do something so untoward and not be caught by someone with a stronger platform.
Schmae's theory is probably correct, and, IMO, if tips have slowed to less than a trickle, LE may have decided that AA was no longer a useful tool in their investigation. That is not to say that if something else turns up, and Relisha is seen in another vehicle, that the AA system will not be used again to locate her.
The media has done a lot of work to keep Relisha's story in front of people's eyes, and the reporters and commenters have shone a powerful spotlight on the political and social circumstances which allowed this travesty to happen. From the top down, they have made clear connections between the city council's policies and the reality that grinds the humanity from the most desperate, the most vulnerable of its citizens.
So, a huge thank you to any of the writers, the researchers, the LEO's and their associates reading this thread who have put their hearts on the line as they became involved in finding Relisha and telling her story to the world. Please know that there is much emotional support for you and hope she may yet be found.
 
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Find RELISHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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I've been away for a while, haven't posted lately. But, Relisha is never far from my mind. I am convinced that somebody knows what happened to her. I am not convinced that KT killed AT and then himself. I think others are involved. That meeting at the hotel room still haunts me...iirc, the AA was issued that day...5 people in a hotel room, and 2 of them end up dead. Bizarre, very suspicious to me. Imo, it's totally possible that Relisha was passed off and is still alive, out there somewhere, and she needs to be found!

WHERE IS RELISHA?! Somebody knows something, and they need to start talking!!!
 
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Glad you're back Cinnamon.
 

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