DC - Savvas Savopoulos, family & Veralicia Figueroa murdered; Daron Wint Arrested #5

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  • #281
Not sure if I can post the link...But it's his first two initals, last name plus "racing.com"

XYZoooooRacing.com

Like that.

So I just did a bunch of sleuthtastic stuff- and found the broke racers instagram- this may be a coincidence but he's welding. the car. welding- AIW- DW? Connection?

Check it out.

brokeracersclub.png

link: http://ilovegram.com/brokeracersclub
 
  • #282
Actually, SS's sister talked to him on Thursday. I am pretty sure sister would know if it was him or not.

That was in the very first reports. Have we heard anything more about that since then? With the awful misreporting and flat out wrong reporting on this case...and since we know for a fact he had already spent an entire night with DDW, and that he was trying to alert people in sadly, vague ways...I would like to hear from this sister again and what she now thinks about that alleged phone call.

And this is NOT an "accusation" type post. Not directed at you at all...
 
  • #283
It's not questioning instructions, but if you want to keep your job, dropping off something very valuable without being sure it got to its intended recipient so that you're not blamed for it. Like it's said the driver called 10 minutes before arriving, like why not send SS a text that he dropped it off once that was done. For all SS would know - if somehow it turned up missing - is that his driver was the last one to have it and the driver could not only lose his job but be criminally prosecuted. To avoid criminal prosecution for something you didn't do is why you'd confirm with your boss you dropped off the valuables instead of the last they heard with you that you had $40K in cash and were driving around with it.

You could be right
Not going to waste time arguing about it as I simply don't know what he was told

Would love the link about the flurry of calls though.
It may help me to understand why so many feel he should have called

I have missed that part and it would change my mind in a hurry
 
  • #284
he did not answer a flurry of calls?
I have missed this
Could you give me a link .TIA

The Washington Post:

The documents show a flurry of phone calls among Savvas Savopoulos, a bank, an accountant, the personal assistant, a construction company executive and Savopoulos’s American Iron Works company in the hours before the fire. The calls started shortly after 7 a.m. May 14 and ended just before noon. The fire was reported at 1:15 p.m.

Savvas Savopoulos had called the assistant at 11:54 a.m. — the last incoming or outgoing call he made or answered before the fire.
 
  • #285
I wouldn't believe a word that comes from the mouth of NG. Trained to attack? They had 2 dogs and the one she referred to is a labrador named Ginger. I thought it was interesting that whoever set the fire could murder four people, but let the dogs out into the yard so they wouldn't be hurt.

LOLLLL YES! I almost choked when I read "aggressive watch dog- yellow lab named ginger." ok the terms "aggressive watch dog" an "lab" don't even belong on the same planet. Hyper dog? Spastic dog? Sure. But a labrador is not a watch dog. At the most- hunting dog. But not watch dog.

The dogs were fine. They were out in the back yard and both are safe and healthy with the family.
 
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Yes. According to the affidavit, the money was left on the driver's seat of the Mosler which was the only car in the garage.

Yes, the affidavit recounts what W-1 told LE about where he left the money, but I don't believe that there's any independent corroboration for W-1's statement that he left the money in the Mosler.
 
  • #289
Couldn't one person be ducking down in passenger's seat of car or backseat? And fled in different directions once out of car or is there video of only one person leaving car (Blue Porsche church parking lot)? Idk.

That's what I was thinking. The Porsche passenger seat lies almost flat, so a second perp could be out of sight. Also, there were hours between the fire starting at the house and discovery of the burning car. Perp 1 could have dropped Perp 2 off somewhere other than the church parking lot.

As an aside, I think someone had to drop DW off near the house on Wednesday. PS wouldn't drive his go-kart around the neighborhood, so it's possible it was stored elsewhere. It's not very smart to store gasoline in a garage that is attached to the house and since landscapers bring their own equipment, I can't see why the S family would have cans full of gas at the house. I think the perp(s) brought it with them, and they wouldn't be able to take it onto Metro.
 
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Dont know if this is allowed but on Amy S. Facebook page ...she posted a link to a WAPO article about concussions "changing lives" in August of 2013.

Mods delete if inappropriate...but here it is:


"More posts from August 5 to December 31

Amy Savopoulos likes an article on The Washington Post.
August 5, 2013 ·
More often than you realize, concussions shatter lives. Another heartbreaking story. Thankful we are only having to deal with the long term effects but a reality check that it can always be worse.

Austin Trenum’s father speaks on school sizes, concussions and ‘safety scheduling’
The father of a high school football player who died after suffering his second concussion discusses scheduling...
THE WASHINGTON POST
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Abigail M. Savopoulos likes this.

One of her daughters had a quite serious concussion within the last few years, so I would guess this was in reference to that, rather than Philip's (possible) recent concussion.
 
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Great TY

I had read that one
To me, it seems all about getting the money together
Thats sort of how I read it

I agree. That is not an accusation that the assistant/driver didn't answer those flurry of calls. Clearly, he answered the first ones, because he got the money to the house.
 
  • #295
Yes, you need a zone parking permit to park on the street for more than two hours.
 
  • #296
I just looked up how criminals disguise a car's identity. Check this out - just thought it was interesting with the burned Porsche, where it was abandoned, and the Amerifleet rolling garage - maybe a scheme to steal cars and turn them into something "legit" didn't work out as planned:

A recent bust of a VIN switching ring in Florida found that more than a thousand vehicles had been stolen and “doctored” to conceal their true identity.

Nor is it always possible to detect a VIN switch, with the result that a vehicle might change hands several times without any owner realizing their car is “hot.”

Often, the crime only comes to light when big-time car thieves are arrested and their activities are thoroughly investigated, or when two identical VINs are recorded in different states.

According to the NICB, the most common crime is known as the Salvage Switch. A badly damaged car is bought or acquired by a crook using a false name for the title. The vehicle is then officially listed as “salvaged” and the crook uses both the title and the VIN on a similar stolen car.

Another crime, though not really a case of VIN switching, is known as Strip and Run. This is a complex scam in which crooks steal a car and strip it of just about everything that’s removable.

The car is listed by police and insurers as “stolen” and therefore can’t be sold by the thieves.

So, they abandon what’s left — the frame, with its VIN — somewhere it can be found.

Once found by the police, it’s now considered by the authorities as “recovered” and is no longer listed as “stolen.” In other words, it’s a legit auto, just without its parts, and can be sold.

The car frame, its VIN and its title are then usually auctioned off by insurers or police, where — you guessed it — the crooks buy it back.

Then they reinstall all the pieces they removed and suddenly they have a complete, legally owned car, which they can sell.

http://www.scambusters.org/vinswitching.html
 
  • #297
That woman was a neighbor walking her own 2 dogs.

You said this in response to another poster, but I just happened to have linked in above post just now with photos two dogs walking out of the house (which was still a crime scene) so I did assume the narrative that the station did was correct that went with it when it said that neighbors took the dogs. Certainly wasn't two uniformed folks.

:dunno:
 
  • #298
This theory is really intriguing, but I'm still on the fence because the Mosler is an extremely illiquid asset, sort of like stealing a Picasso. What was W1 going to do with the Mosler? I guess he could have had a fantasy that he would hide it for now and then take it someplace remote to drive it... or he could have thought he could put it in a shipping container and off to China it goes in exchange for a good bit of cash... but he certainly wasn't going to get away with selling it in the US. At least I don't think so?

I haven't heard of anyone so far who I think would be this criminally sophisticated or who are professional carjackers, but there is a market for stolen high end cars that are shipped overseas:
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/20...e_more_stolen_cars_disappearing_overseas.html
 
  • #299
If those are the Savopoulos family dogs, there is no way in hell that one of them is an "attack dog" that NG described! LMAO!! She must be deathly afraid of dogs or something to think that!

Aggressive wathch dog, a labrador named Ginger (LOL)
I wonder which one is Ginger. Both dogs look very scared.
 
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