DCA - American Airlines passenger plane collides with Blackhawk over the Potomac River, all 67 on both dead, 29 Jan 2025

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Emergency units responded to the wreckage in the Potomac River near Reagan National Airport. Getty Images

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Gosh, how fast would the Blackhawk be going for the fuselage on the plane to be torn apart?? Also, something I seen in the video seemed like the heli was not well-lit? (On the exterior) I don't know anything about helicopters or anything aircraft...
 
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Gosh, how fast would the Blackhawk be going for the fuselage on the plane to be torn apart?? Also, something I seen in the video seemed like the heli was not well-lit? (On the exterior) I don't know anything about helicopters or anything aircraft...
When two objects collide and at least one of them is going hundreds of kilometres an hour, the speed of the other isn't really going to matter, it's going to be a disaster no matter what.

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This is sad. SO sad. I most likey have family members working this scene . PRAY for that dive team and ems , it doesnt look like they are going home the same way they went to work.
 
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When two objects collide and at least one of them is going hundreds of kilometres an hour, the speed of the other isn't really going to matter, it's going to be a disaster no matter what.

MOO
Indeed; and those rotors are going to do some major damage to an airframe.

This is tragic.
 
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This is sad. SO sad. I most likey have family members working this scene . PRAY for that dive team and ems , it doesnt look they are going home the same way they went to work.
Yeah, I know those sort of guys run on the hope that they'll be able to save someone, but the vibe the reporters are picking up is that nobody thinks anyone survived this.

I guess the cold comfort is that it was probably so quick nobody knew anything about it.

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This the feed I am watching.
 
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Now updated to 19 deceased so far - as of 2:50am Thursday local time. There are three debris fields.

Very sad. :(

The numbers may grow quite quickly if they have gained better access now to the debris.

I know it's cold, but it helps that the water is so shallow. It's not like trying to recover people from hundreds of feet of sea water. The fuselage is probably not even fully submerged. I read eight feet. My ceiling is that high, and if I stand on a dining chair, I can change my own lightbulbs, I don't need a ladder. And I'm only 5'7".

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Awful awful tragedy.

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Awful awful tragedy.

While the Black Hawk may have good visibility in general, any helicopter's weakest spot is traffic directly above and below it. If they were ascending and the plane was descending to land, it wouldn't surprise me if they did mistake another aircraft's lights for the one that ATC was asking them about and never saw this one at all.

Sadly ATC can only do so much which is why systems like ADSB were developed. If they weren't showing as traffic and detecting other traffic in such a busy environment, yikes.
Right ,on the other hand my VW has a sensor that lets me know I have a car in my blind side. it is a 4 dollar sensor.
 
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Pretty sure everyone has been talking about it being the Potomac?


This article says it's the Potomac, and that that section is eight feet deep.
 
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A former NTSB and Federal Aviation Administration investigator, Jeff Guzzetti, says that the helicopter was in a corridor where helicopters are allowed to fly at a low level.

And as another layer of protection, airliners are equipped with TCAS (Traffic Alert and Collision Avoidance System) which issues verbal alerts to pilots to avoid a crash. But as planes approach the ground, the system gradually reduces the amount of alerts to avoid distracting the pilots.

Investigations will determine whether pilots received any system warnings, whether the military aircraft was detected by the system, and whether it was providing alerts at such a low level with multiple aircraft around.

Paraphrased from ... https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...n-airport-airspace-plane-crash-washington-dc/
 
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Pretty sure everyone has been talking about it being the Potomac?


This article says it's the Potomac, and that that section is eight feet deep.
It is the Potomac.
 
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