DCA - American Airlines passenger plane collides with Blackhawk over the Potomac River, all 67 on both dead, 29 Jan 2025

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The other side of the river ?
The Anacostia joins the Potomac some distance upstream, and the section where the crash is is the Potomac, not the Anacostia.

This ABC Australia article has a map showing the position of the crash site.

 
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The number of passengers of approx 60 on board the passenger plane seem little.
Would this be a usual number for a domestic flight on such a large aircraft?
I believe that is about the number usually on board. I have been on commuter planes about this size.
 
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World champion Russian figure skaters confirmed as being on board crashed US plane​


Evgenia Shishkova and Vadim Naumov were on American Airlines plane that crashed near Washington DC as US Figure Skating says athletes and coaches among passengers

Reuters
Thu 30 Jan 2025

US Figure Skating said on Thursday that several skaters were on an American Airlines regional passenger plane that crashed near Ronald Reagan national airport on Wednesday.

 
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It appears they have found one of the black boxes.

Also, two people familiar with the airport think the plane was turning left (according to radar data) and lining up to land on runway 33, and that it was at less than 300 feet elevation ... very close to touching down. That it is possible that the pilot didn't even see the helicopter as they would have been focused on the turn and the runway. They are wondering what the focus of the helicopter pilot was.



A dive team found what appears to be one of the plane's two data recorders — the so-called black boxes. It wasn't clear whether it was the cockpit voice recorder or the one that stores data about the plane's performance.

Divers have had some access to the aircraft's cabin.

Luggage is among items divers have recovered.

The helicopter is upside down but appears to be mostly intact, Van Cleave adds.

 
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World champion Russian figure skaters confirmed as being on board crashed US plane​


Evgenia Shishkova and Vadim Naumov were on American Airlines plane that crashed near Washington DC as US Figure Skating says athletes and coaches among passengers

Reuters
Thu 30 Jan 2025

US Figure Skating said on Thursday that several skaters were on an American Airlines regional passenger plane that crashed near Ronald Reagan national airport on Wednesday.


It appears they have found one of the black boxes.

Also, two people familiar with the airport think the plane was turning left (according to radar data) and lining up to land on runway 33, and that it was at less than 300 feet elevation ... very close to touching down. That it is possible that the pilot didn't even see the helicopter as they would have been focused on the turn and the runway. They are wondering what the focus of the helicopter pilot was.



A dive team found what appears to be one of the plane's two data recorders — the so-called black boxes. It wasn't clear whether it was the cockpit voice recorder or the one that stores data about the plane's performance.

Divers have had some access to the aircraft's cabin.

Luggage is among items divers have recovered.

The helicopter is upside down but appears to be mostly intact, Van Cleave adds.


I wish they had all 67 people before they started talking about black boxes. IMO.
 
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I wish they had all 67 people before they started talking about black boxes. IMO.

If the black boxes reveal something that affects an entire fleet of aircraft, it's important to know that asap.

While this incident appears to be straight up human error at first blush, it's not always the case that it's that simple and straightforward.

MOO
 
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Air traffic control asked the Blackhawk to confirm visibility of the CRJ which they did. Then 13 seconds later the collision.



The controller then said, “PAT 2-5 pass behind the CRJ.”

Additional air traffic control audio shortly before the collision captures the helicopter pilot saying, “PAT 2-5 has aircraft in sight, request visual separation.”
 
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Officials indicated a number of people died after an American Airlines flight collided with a military helicopter Wednesday night, causing both to crash into the Potomac River.
 
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If the black boxes reveal something that affects an entire fleet of aircraft, it's important to know that asap.

While this incident appears to be straight up human error at first blush, it's not always the case that it's that simple and straightforward.

MOO
This accident is 7 hours old. They could be finding people ..yet they reserve those people to search for the boxes. It is why the dive team is there.
 
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Officials indicated a number of people died after an American Airlines flight collided with a military helicopter Wednesday night, causing both to crash into the Potomac River.
This about to be merged ..into a different thread .
 
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This accident is 7 hours old. They could be finding people ..yet they reserve those people to search for the boxes. It is why the dive team is there.
You're making an assumption that they're prioritising the black boxes over saveable people.

I think within half an hour to an hour they knew there were no survivors.

This is a recovery operation, and retrieving the black box is part of that recovery, as it is for every air disaster.

MOO
 
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It is possible that when the Blackhawk was asked by AIr Traffic Control to confirm visibility of the CRJ it could have been looking at another aircraft, since this is a very busy airport.

JMO and just one scenario out of many that could have occurred.
 
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This title could be updated to remove “small plane” as a CRJ isn’t a small plane.

JMO
 
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This about to be merged ..into a different thread .
Is there already a thread for this? I tried to look for it before I posted a new one, sorry
 
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