Debbie Bradley and Jeremy Irwin on Dr. Phil 3 February 2012

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If he used that on DB, she may crack. Wow! This is exactly what I am talking about. Even if DB did not kill Lisa, she is responsible for her death or abduction. Somewhere, Somehow, people have got to learn NOT to leave their children EVER with a person who is drinking or a druggie. Jeremy stands with her. He is an irresponsible parent.

Phil will be a softie towards them with the legal eagle team in tow!!!

 

[vlpate]

Above post is another misrepresentation:

The Kansas City Police Department, however, was quick to refute the claim, telling Fox News that the parents have not been told they are suspects.

"We have no suspects in the case," Kansas City police spokeswoman Stacey Graves said in an email to FoxNews.com.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/1...till-missing-on-first-birthday/#ixzz1kor3Fewj

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Actually it is not a misrepresentation. They haven't been eliminated as suspects. There have been no suspects officially named.

Obviously they are potential suspects or LE would not want to speak to the separately.

I know it seems confusing, but it is what it is. They have not been named as suspects, but they have not been eliminated as suspects. That's just how it works.

John and Patsy Ramsey's lawyers tried for years to have them eliminated as suspects, yet they were never officially named as suspects.

 

[krimekat]

Actually it is not a misrepresentation. They haven't been eliminated as suspects. There have been no suspects officially named.

Obviously they are potential suspects or LE would not want to speak to the separately.

I know it seems confusing, but it is what it is. They have not been named as suspects, but they have not been eliminated as suspects. That's just how it works.

John and Patsy Ramsey's lawyers tried for years to have them eliminated as suspects, yet they were never officially named as suspects.

I don't agree with the above bolded rationale . . . LE has not named any suspects or POIs in Lisa Irwin's disappearance specifically DB & JI, Lisa's parents. No matter how often it's said they're "suspects" in the Lisa threads, they have not been named as suspects by LE. It's not confusing at all IMHO and it's not how "it" works.

This is not about the Ramseys . . .

:deadhorse:

Going back to lurking . . .

 

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I don't agree with the above bolded rationale . . . LE has not named any suspects or POIs in Lisa Irwin's disappearance specifically DB & JI, Lisa's parents. No matter how often it's said they're "suspects" in the Lisa threads, they have not been named as suspects by LE. It's not confusing at all IMHO and it's not how "it" works.

This is not about the Ramsey's . . .

:deadhorse:

Going back to lurking . . .

When LE investigates a case, they usually work from the inside to out to eliminate players in the case. They are at a standstill as the closest players refuse to cooperate, therefore NO ONE has been eliminated from this case! Once the parents choose to move forward, maybe this case will lead somewhere. JMO

 

[4Jacy]

Wow, from the preview it looks like Deborah Bradley has been very busy working on her "new look". Straightened black hair and makeup. She's lost weight too. She appears to have a new self confidence with an attitude to match.

How did she have time for all this, I mean she was so busy looking for Baby Lisa, you know, her daughter............

 

[Whisperer]

...and you guys wonder why I drink...

:drink:

 

[vlpate]

I don't agree with the above bolded rationale . . . LE has not named any suspects or POIs in Lisa Irwin's disappearance specifically DB & JI, Lisa's parents. No matter how often it's said they're "suspects" in the Lisa threads, they have not been named as suspects by LE. It's not confusing at all IMHO and it's not how "it" works.

This is not about the Ramseys . . .

:deadhorse:

Going back to lurking . . .

I don't even know what it is that you are disagreeing with anymore.

Back to topic -

I wonder if Picerno will make an appearance. Was he just representing them in the Blake Irwin custody battle, or is he still the attorney for both DB and JI. He may not be polished enough in the way of celebrity lawyers. I read where he contradicted himself on the "suspect" announcement regarding the BI case. He doesn't seem ready for prime time.

 

[Sabot]

BBM: Clicking the Thank you button was not enough, well said In da Middle!

I'll second that. Or third it, whatever. Well said, InDaMiddle.

 

[4Jacy]

it saddens me that this is the new norm for people who lose/misplace/disappear their children while the children are in their personal care: give several stories, don't cooperate, lawyer up, bad mouth law enforcement, then go on national tv for your starring role in the ratings race.

but at the end of the day a child is still gone and the storie(s), from the parent who had care of the child, still make no sense and average people like me are chastised for wondering why this is okay.

OH, the TRUTH that you tell. A big thank you to you and your well thought out post.

 

[MyBelle]

I don't agree with the above bolded rationale . . . LE has not named any suspects or POIs in Lisa Irwin's disappearance specifically DB & JI, Lisa's parents. No matter how often it's said they're "suspects" in the Lisa threads, they have not been named as suspects by LE. It's not confusing at all IMHO and it's not how "it" works.

This is not about the Ramseys . . .

:deadhorse:

Going back to lurking . . .

LE often don't name suspects. It isn't a requirement they do so prior to an arrest. LE publicly stating they have questions the parents refuse to answer is, in my opinion, a clever way to let the public know they are suspects.

JMO

 

[Sabot]

...no #$#. Picerno is spinning. Of course LE told him "Off the record, Mr. Picerno, we believe your clients know what happened to Lisa."

...Is there any quesion? No. Can LE OFFICIALLY say they are suspects...a big fat NO. I suppose the parents are upset and are in a sparring relationship. Why else would they need two high profile Criminal Defense Attorneys?. They know LE thinks one of the killed their baby. Nothing new here. 99% of the public thinks they killed their child.

LE won't "officially' name them suspects till the evidence is in. Once they "officially" name a suspect, they have to turn over everything to the #$#$. Picerno wants them to call them suspects so he can get his hands on the evidence they have so far.

Because LE will not show him evidence, Picerno will not let them talk to LE anymore.

Oh God. Here we go again with the 99%. This is just not true either. There are enough people posting on here who disagree with you to tell you it isn't true.
Some people might believe it, although how they manage to totally disregard the evidence is always a mystery to me. No one is in a position to state anything categorically unless some solid evidence is produced, and I wouldn't be sure even then. Dogs and even Forensics are debatable. This is why we have Trials.

 

[vlpate]

...and you guys wonder why I drink...

:drink:

:floorlaugh: does it help?

 

[vlpate]

Oh God. Here we go again with the 99%. This is just not true either. There are enough people posting on here who disagree with you to tell you it isn't true.
Some people might believe it, although how they manage to totally disregard the evidence is always a mystery to me. No one is in a position to state anything categorically unless some solid evidence is produced, and I wouldn't be sure even then. Dogs and even Forensics are debatable. This is why we have Trials.

Maybe they'll talk about this on the show!

 

[Deleted member 39678]

LE often don't name suspects. It isn't a requirement they do so prior to an arrest. LE publicly stating they have questions the parents refuse to answer is, in my opinion, a clever way to let the public know they are suspects.

JMO

I have a question. What would change in this case if LE publicly named Debbie a suspect?

 

[4Jacy]

...and you guys wonder why I drink...

:drink:

Love you...we all do!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Sabot]

There's no evidence that anyone else was in the house that night. Even DB and JI said they didn't think anyone came through the window.

I have long suspected that the abductor went in through the garage and up into the computer room, and then out through the front door.

 

[4Jacy]

I have a question. What would change in this case if LE publicly named Debbie a suspect?

Debbie would pray that Johnnie Cochran were still alive.................

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Debbie would pray that Johnnie Cochran were still alive.................

Pretty funny. Any other ideas?

 

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I have a question. What would change in this case if LE publicly named Debbie a suspect?

Bring her in for questioning, then possibly charge her or eliminate her as a suspect and move on....

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Bring her in for questioning, then possibly charge her or eliminate her as a suspect and move on....

What do you mean by "bring her in for questioning"? You mean arrest her? On what charge?