Deborah Bradley & Jeremy Irwin - Dr. Phil Interview - 3 February 2012 #2

[katydid23]

Using your theory as a jumping off point, what time do you think she must have taken the "package" out of the house in order to work with the time line, and still have time to conceal her alleged evil deeds, IF she had done this?
The reason I ask is SB sat on her front steps for an hour with Shane after DB went inside. To our knowledge, neither of the latter has said they saw DB carry anything out of the house or drive off.
How could she carry this out when SB was watching the house for an hour, yet an abducter, it is theorized by many couldn't have come or gone without being noticed.
Does anyone know if the engine temperature of the car was checked by LE?

Personally, I don't think SB was really watching the house all that time. She had a 4 yr old to put to bed herself. And the new friend they were hanging out with came by to visit with her again, as well.And she was newly single as of that night. So her mind may have been on something else besides DB's house. She was distracted, imo. And she is giving her friend an alibi, but she may not have seen what she says she saw.

 

[norest4thewicked]

Ummm... who/what is "Sherbie" & what are you talking about? Or are you just trolling?? :innocent:

I think that she is gone, or I wouldn't answer for her. Sherbie was another poster up thread and In Da Middle was responding to something that was said earlier. She isn't trolling at all. She is actually one of the very few here who live in the same neighborhood as DB and she gives us a lot of great information. Just thought you should know that.

 

[norest4thewicked]

BBM: Thanks, that was one point many of us have been trying to make in reverse fashion, it is possible either way. If your theory is true, once the body is found it should be loaded with incriminating evidence, because as another poster mentioned, that's a lot of handling, and if the packaging can be linked back to the home that would narrow the window of suspects.

Oh I completely agree. IF Lisa is ever found, it will be a cake walk for LE. But, I believe that Lisa was put into the river and will likely never be found.

 

[In da Middle]

Personally, I don't think SB was really watching the house all that time. She had a 4 yr old to put to bed herself. And the new friend they were hanging out with came by to visit with her again, as well.And she was newly single as of that night. So her mind may have been on something else besides DB's house. She was distracted, imo. And she is giving her friend an alibi, but she may not have seen what she says she saw.

But does that mean that absolutely everybody is not to be believed? We have to believe somebody about something.

 

[norest4thewicked]

But does that mean that absolutely everybody is not to be believed? We have to believe somebody about something.

Hopefully, the truth will come out and we can believe that. Until that time, I don't know what we can all believe.

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

But does that mean that absolutely everybody is not to be believed? We have to believe somebody about something.

Good point, if she ws distracted, did she really see DB turn out the lights? Pull that one little tidbit out of the mix and it's a different horse race IMHO!

 

[francie]

Actually I have see the benefactor and Bill S tied together in an event in Texas prior to Lisa going missing.

Interesting, and thank you, I didn't know they'd identified a flesh & blood person lol. I guess I'm just really skeptical of anything coming from them, so I also wonder if it's an investor not a benefactor looking to make a buck off a missing baby media circus.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Using your theory as a jumping off point, what time do you think she must have taken the "package" out of the house in order to work with the time line, and still have time to conceal her alleged evil deeds, IF she had done this?
The reason I ask is SB sat on her front steps for an hour with Shane after DB went inside. To our knowledge, neither of the latter has said they saw DB carry anything out of the house or drive off.
How could she carry this out when SB was watching the house for an hour, yet an abducter, it is theorized by many couldn't have come or gone without being noticed.
Does anyone know if the engine temperature of the car was checked by LE?

BBM
Great question. That would tell us whether the car was used that night. It would put that one to rest. Kind of like giving Debbie a BAC test right away to see if she was intoxicated or not. Did LE do either test?

 

[katydid23]

I am pretty jaded and suspicious, that is true. But SB is hard for me to take totally seriously. She has not yet, AFAIK, made statement concerning the last time she saw Lisa alive and well. We saw one statement in the People mag timeline where she said she saw the baby in her crib at 5ish. If that is the last time she saw Baby Lisa, and she was at the home for dinner, and was on the porch for the rest of the evening, then something is not right, imo.

 

[katydid23]

But does that mean that absolutely everybody is not to be believed? We have to believe somebody about something.

I am not calling her a LIAR. I am just saying that she may be mistaken. Her 4 yr old was there that night. when did she go inside and put her to bed?

Her husband left her that night and she was drinking. Surely she was distracted and a bit emotional that evening.

 

[vlpate]

BBM There are people on this very site accusing her of being a drug addict early on and currently.

BEM: I never saw anyone accusing her of being a "drug addict". There was speculation that the connection with Jersey/MW might have been drug related. There was speculation that the "clicking" sound the boys heard (honestly not sure where this came from), could have been "cutting" drugs on a table. Just because someone might use drugs once in a great while, and I an NOT saying she did, does not mean they are "addicts".

You may recall Megan on Fox News announcing that the house MW lived in was full of Meth addicts...so a drug connection was not a stretch considering the phone call.

JMO

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Hopefully, the truth will come out and we can believe that. Until that time, I don't know what we can all believe.

Yes, I agree. I also hope that the truth will come out and that Lisa will be alive and safe.

 

[askfornina]

BBM
Great question. That would tell us whether the car was used that night. It would put that one to rest. Kind of like giving Debbie a BAC test right away to see if she was intoxicated or not. Did LE do either test?

24 minutes 40 seconds into this video of JT's first PC, he says "They certainly didn't have a blood alcohol test on her."

http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/ne...a-irwin-family-to-hold-230-pm-news-conference

 

[In da Middle]

I am not calling her a LIAR. I am just saying that she may be mistaken. Her 4 yr old was there that night. when did she go inside and put her to bed?

Her husband left her that night and she was drinking. Surely she was distracted and a bit emotional that evening.

That I will agree. But as to her 'statement'(addressing post prior to this one) just because "we" have not heard one from her, does not in any way mean that she has not given one, or many even, to the exact people she NEEDS to give one to. That being LE. They have spoken to her on multiple occasions that are even on tape. Her not giving media interviews and staying quiet gives her even MORE credibility to me. Not less.

 

[Whisperer]

Interesting, and thank you, I didn't know they'd identified a flesh & blood person lol. I guess I'm just really skeptical of anything coming from them, so I also wonder if it's an investor not a benefactor looking to make a buck off a missing baby media circus.

..oops. I didn't mean to say I saw them in person. I read about them at an event. No, she's not looking to make a buck.

 

[Whisperer]

24 minutes 40 seconds into this video of JT's first PC, he says "They certainly didn't have a blood alcohol test on her."

http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/ne...a-irwin-family-to-hold-230-pm-news-conference

I have never heard of that in a missing child case. LE puts the child's needs first and overlook most anything such as drugs, etc.. If they tested her, I can see the attorneys chewing up that decision.

Thanks for the link, askfornina.. If anything Joe T was true to his word...even back in the very beginning he has this to say:

He doesn't believe police have anything tying Deborah and Jeremy to the disappearance of little Lisa. He will allow the family to speak to investigators, but only if he believes it will help locate Lisa.

 

[In da Middle]

BEM: I never saw anyone accusing her of being a "drug addict". There was speculation that the connection with Jersey/MW might have been drug related. There was speculation that the "clicking" sound the boys heard (honestly not sure where this came from), could have been "cutting" drugs on a table. Just because someone might use drugs once in a great while, and I an NOT saying she did, does not mean they are "addicts".

You may recall Megan on Fox News announcing that the house MW lived in was full of Meth addicts...so a drug connection was not a stretch considering the phone call.

JMO

I recall her stating the WRONG house even as a 'meth' house! She had the wrong house, on tape, as being the house MW resided in when she received the infamous call. i also recall Jim Spellman stating many times that he was in the CORRECT house, unannounced, on multiple occasions, and witnessed no drugs. And multiple people have all stated there is no connection between MW and DB.
And the word 'addict' has been used on here to describe her.

 

[askfornina]

I've heard only one specific med mentioned. I believe Picerno told the name of the medicine in an interview segment on Fox not too long after the couple had done the interview with MK. I can't remember what the name of the medication was, though, and I'm too tired to try to find the link...so I'll state this as IMO. Maybe someone else will recall the name of the medicine.

I know the medicine was Effexor, and I know MK mentioned it on her show on a segment from Oct.18th, but I cannot find a video of the segment.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

24 minutes 40 seconds into this video of JT's first PC, he says "They certainly didn't have a blood alcohol test on her."

http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/ne...a-irwin-family-to-hold-230-pm-news-conference

Thanks Nina. Now, I wonder if they checked the car to see if it had been driven? If Debbie's BAC was unimportant, would her driving the car matter in the early stages of the investigation?

 

[In da Middle]

Thanks Nina. Now, I wonder if they checked the car to see if it had been driven? If Debbie's BAC was unimportant, would her driving the car matter in the early stages of the investigation?

I would think it should have been very important if they thought it was even possible for her to have done this.