Deborah Bradley & Jeremy Irwin - Dr. Phil Interview - 3 February 2012 #2

[Whisperer]

Bring your family back as a unit?? Deb, don't you have to divorce your husband first before you take that step?

 

[Whisperer]

Deb's wearing a very heavy sweater...would love to see her arms.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I think there is a possibility that Lisa was taken that night. I believe DB was drunk and passed out and didn't hear a thing.

The timeline (as far as I know) would not allow DB to dispose of Lisa without a trace. The neighbour was outside until 11:30. That would mean DB would've had approx. 3 1/2 hours to dispose of Lisa without leaving any evidence. I just don't buy that.

If she was responsible, they would have found something. Yes, there was dog hit but I know that dogs also have false positives and that one hit just isn't enough. There were no other hits anywhere and we've seen the dogs all over the house, the yard, the vehicles.

There may be evidence we're not aware of but for now, I'll have to give them the benefit of the doubt that someone else (perhaps even someone very close to the family) snatched Lisa for whatever reason.

BBM
I agree n/t. Until I see more evidence I'm on the fence.

 

[Donjeta]

DB monologue:

"People don't understand just how difficult it is to wake up and realize that somebody has come to your house and taken your baby and then you are accused of doing something to her or covering something up or whatever insane theories they've come up with, and then I do all this media and be on the tv with the purpose, hoping and praying that somebody has seen her, has seen someone with her, it is literally impossible to remember every single detail and say it exactly the same every single time and there are so many hateful people or negative people who have picked all that apart, and I understand the looking at the mother thing because the world we live in today is not always a safe and happy place, there are a lot of crazy people, there are a lot of bad parents, and a lot of things happen, accidents happen, so I understand why they looked at me in the beginning, and I also understand with the drinking why some of the public had made accusations and drew that out and made scenarios with all that and I understand it, but it's time to come to a reasoning that enough is enough, that my daughter is missing, that she is okay somewhere because nobody kidnaps a ten month old, beautiful little girl to hurt her, she is out there somewhere and I am desperate to find her, I am clinging on to a shread of sanity right now, I just want her home. I want people to realize to take a step back and look, if I had done something I would be in jail right now, Joe doesn't save me from jail, it doesn't work that way."

 

[Whisperer]

Now...we have pics of Lisa as a newborn. So precious. It is now time to cry. DB is crying her eyes out. This is going to bring some to tears.

Don't these two have any recent photos other than the one we have seen?

They are still showing the only pic that we have seen. She looks to be about three months old in it. Not going to get much help from the public with these pics.

 

[iluvmua]

IF this was an accident then DB needs to come clean NOW!!!!!

She is digging herself a deeper and deeper hole by the minute.

What do they call accidents that result in death?

Manslaughter???

 

[Donjeta]

I think there is a possibility that Lisa was taken that night. I believe DB was drunk and passed out and didn't hear a thing.

The timeline (as far as I know) would not allow DB to dispose of Lisa without a trace. The neighbour was outside until 11:30. That would mean DB would've had approx. 3 1/2 hours to dispose of Lisa without leaving any evidence. I just don't buy that.

If she was responsible, they would have found something. Yes, there was dog hit but I know that dogs also have false positives and that one hit just isn't enough. There were no other hits anywhere and we've seen the dogs all over the house, the yard, the vehicles.

There may be evidence we're not aware of but for now, I'll have to give them the benefit of the doubt that someone else (perhaps even someone very close to the family) snatched Lisa for whatever reason.

I don't see why she couldn't have gone out through the door on the other side of the house without the neighbor seeing her. I'm sure she didn't sit there concentrated on making sure that DB doesn't move.

And I don't see why you need more than 3 1/2 hours to get rid of a body.

 

[natsound]

This is a tough crowd I have to say I disagree with Bill's theory that someone came in, took the phones, and saw the baby and took her to sell her (or for other reasons).

IMHO petty burglars do not steal babies. On that note, DB reported earlier that the door to Lisa's room was shut. So not only would the burgler grab the phones, but would have to open the door to find baby lisa -- meaning IMHO that Lisa was a target, and the phones were an afterthought. Yet the way Bill described it the persons were after the phones, and they "saw" Lisa and took her.

How could they see Lisa through a closed door?

Anyway - this is just MY opinon...don't shoot me

Mel

This is a point that I have been trying to drive home for so long. What intruder would enter one room, take the baby, then enter the other room and take the phones, or vice versa? He/she had one target... the baby. Why, after grabbing the baby, would you venture into the kitchen at all?

 

[Pugnolia]

A female friend, age 33, who knows absolutely nothing about this case, was watching the show with me. She practically jumped down my throat when I gave my opinion of DB's 'probable' guilt. She said, look at her, look how she's crying, no mother could hurt her child and cry like that if she was guilty of anything, just because the internet people believe her guilty doesn't make it so, by the way do you even know any of these people on the internet, why would you believe them!, give her the benefit of the doubt, no one is going to hurt her own baby!

I am not on the fence with this one. I got up, scarfed down four tylenol, started to explain that I can think for myself thank you, I have read every word written about this case, watched every video, and have formulated my own thoughts thank you. But why waste my time and my breath.

I did manage to choke out, well the truth will come out when they find a live Lisa or a body. If neither of these happen, the truth will be buried.

 

[Whisperer]

Final shot. DB doesn't need to have her hand on Jeremy now...It's gone!

 

[natsound]

IF this was an accident then DB needs to come clean NOW!!!!!

She is digging herself a deeper and deeper hole by the minute.

What do they call accidents that result in death?

Manslaughter???

I'm hoping she tripped up and LE is hot on her trail now. Wishful thinking...

 

[iluvmua]

This is a point that I have been trying to drive home for so long. What intruder would enter one room, take the baby, then enter the other room and take the phones, or vice versa? His/her had one target... the baby. Why, after grabbing the baby, would you venture into the kitchen at all?

They would not, they would find whatever they were there to take ie. Jewelry, Money, Baby etc. and get the heck outta there.

unless the "intruder" went into the kitchen first and though..... hmmm, nice looking cell phones, I think I'll take those while i'm here.

Their whole "story" about the "intruder" does not make one lick of sense and I think LE knows that and they know who the real person who harmed Lisa is.

 

[octobermoon]

DB monologue:

"People don't understand just how difficult it is to wake up and realize that somebody has come to your house and taken your baby and then you are accused of doing something to her or covering something up or whatever insane theories they've come up with, and then I do all this media and be on the tv with the purpose, hoping and praying that somebody has seen her, has seen someone with her, it is literally impossible to remember every single detail and say it exactly the same every single time and there are so many hateful people or negative people who have picked all that apart, and I understand the looking at the mother thing because the world we live in today is not always a safe and happy place, there are a lot of crazy people, there are a lot of bad parents, and a lot of things happen, accidents happen, so I understand why they looked at me in the beginning, and I also understand with the drinking why some of the public had made accusations and drew that out and made scenarios with all that and I understand it, but it's time to come to a reasoning that enough is enough, that my daughter is missing, that she is okay somewhere because nobody kidnaps a ten month old, beautiful little girl to hurt her, she is out there somewhere and I am desperate to find her, I am clinging on to a shread of sanity right now, I just want her home. I want people to realize to take a step back and look, if I had done something I would be in jail right now, Joe doesn't save me from jail, it doesn't work that way."

:waitasec:

 

[Whisperer]

A female friend, age 33, who knows absolutely nothing about this case, was watching the show with me. She practically jumped down my throat when I gave my opinion of DB's 'probable' guilt. She said, look at her, look how she's crying, no mother could hurt her child and cry like that if she was guilty of anything, just because the internet people believe her guilty doesn't make it so, by the way do you even know any of these people on the internet, why would you believe them!, give her the benefit of the doubt, no one is going to hurt her own baby!

I am not on the fence with this one. I got up, scarfed down four tylenol, started to explain that I can think for myself thank you, I have read every word written about this case, watched every video, and have formulated my own thoughts thank you. But why waste my time and my breath.

I did manage to choke out, well the truth will come out when they find a live Lisa or a body. If neither of these happen, the truth will be buried.

There are many people that just accept people at face value. Your friend sounds like one of them. We don't have to accept her at face value. We can judge people based on our experiences.

She has a calling ... on a jury.

 

[Whisperer]

:waitasec:

If she had not had her handlers with her, she could have been arrested if she was allowed to talk for the whole hour.

How does JI manage to fly under the radar? He is the most bland human around. Somebody needs to buy him a personality.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

This is a point that I have been trying to drive home for so long. What intruder would enter one room, take the baby, then enter the other room and take the phones, or vice versa? His/her had one target... the baby. Why, after grabbing the baby, would you venture into the kitchen at all?

Why couldn't that happen? How do you know that there was only one target... the baby. How hard would it be to find the phones, stick them in your pocket and then find the baby?

 

[iluvmua]

DB monologue:

"People don't understand just how difficult it is to wake up and realize that somebody has come to your house and taken your baby and then you are accused of doing something to her or covering something up or whatever insane theories they've come up with, and then I do all this media and be on the tv with the purpose, hoping and praying that somebody has seen her, has seen someone with her, it is literally impossible to remember every single detail and say it exactly the same every single time and there are so many hateful people or negative people who have picked all that apart, and I understand the looking at the mother thing because the world we live in today is not always a safe and happy place, there are a lot of crazy people, there are a lot of bad parents, and a lot of things happen, accidents happen, so I understand why they looked at me in the beginning, and I also understand with the drinking why some of the public had made accusations and drew that out and made scenarios with all that and I understand it, but it's time to come to a reasoning that enough is enough, that my daughter is missing, that she is okay somewhere because nobody kidnaps a ten month old, beautiful little girl to hurt her, she is out there somewhere and I am desperate to find her, I am clinging on to a shread of sanity right now, I just want her home. I want people to realize to take a step back and look, if I had done something I would be in jail right now, Joe doesn't save me from jail, it doesn't work that way."

These words stick out for me.

 

[Whisperer]

They would not, they would find whatever they were there to take ie. Jewelry, Money, Baby etc. and get the heck outta there.

unless the "intruder" went into the kitchen first and though..... hmmm, nice looking cell phones, I think I'll take those while i'm here.

Their whole "story" about the "intruder" does not make one lick of sense and I think LE knows that and they know who the real person who harmed Lisa is.

Darn shame they can't speak out like the LE in Maine can. They didn't have any high profile lawyers up there.

 

[matou]

Those words stood out to me too while I was watching, especially "accidents happen".

 

[Whisperer]

These words stick out for me.

Outstanding observation iluvmua!

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