Deborah Bradley & Jeremy Irwin - Dr. Phil Interview - 3 February 2012 #2

[norest4thewicked]

My links take you directly to the entire question and answer that I posted.

No, that answer was referring to a container put into another container "such as a vehicle." Not my scenario at all.

 

[Sherbie]

BBM There are people on this very site accusing her of being a drug addict early on and currently.

I admit I kinda stopped following as closely as I had for a while there, but this stuff apparently flew right past me if it's been an ongoing thing. If I've read it, I must've skimmed, discounted it as rumor, and not retained it. The older I get, the more that happens (or the more I can claim it as the reason for forgetting...LOL).

 

[Whisperer]

What does them not being married to each other have to do with anything? Why would Dr. Phil need to mention that? Who cares?
She lives there with Jeremy and the children, so yes I would call it her house too.

Apparently not some here. To get a complete picture of a crime, you need to know and should profile (if you're into solving cases) the people involved. I question why shouldn't the public know that she is married to another man and living and having children with a different one. It is all part of the picture and plays into different scenarios. One could think her husband took the child and one could think JI's other live-in took the child.

Without having the information, people can't know where to begin to look.

I realize there are people who want to protect her and show her in the best light but she is not a member of the Walton Family. Her benefactor did real well in getting them on Dr. Phil. She may pick up a few fans.

 

[Sparklin]

I don't think she did carry Lisa's body. I think she did what she did right there on the floor of her bedroom. And I think that this might explain why LE took the tape in the search warrant.

That is what we are talking about...In Da Middle and I. I think it is possible that it could have been taken to the river either in a family vehicle, in JI's work vehicle, or possibly on foot by DB, JI, a relative of one of them or a friend. There are a number of ways it could have gotten there.

Ok thanks ~ I'm confused because of the post above...

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

I see this as Jeremy coming home from work, tired and cranky, gets po'ed about the door being unlocked, and the lights that were on, just wants to go to bed. When he gets into the bedroom, Deb is semi awake, he tells her to bring the child to his own bed and wth are all the lights on and the door unlocked....and so it starts. I don't see how they had to tell us every single sentence and word and connotation! When they relay something now and we haven't already heard it doesn't make it a lie by omission or otherwise, it just makes it more info...no matter the circumstances, no one is going to exactly relate what happened, but especially under these circumstances when adrenaline, anxiety and fear are high ... some things are not going to be priority

I liken this to JI saying he came home from work but doesn't mention he opened the van door, stepped out, walked to the house therefore he must still be in the van. Not every movement, word spoken etc was on a need to know basis or of great importance for the general public to know. We are not privvy to every word they told LE either.

 

[Whisperer]

I admit I kinda stopped following as closely as I had for a while there, but this stuff apparently flew right past me if it's been an ongoing thing. If I've read it, I must've skimmed, discounted it as rumor, and not retained it. The older I get, the more that happens (or the more I can claim it as the reason for forgetting...LOL).

Facts are being rearranged to oppress the parents' lack of character.

I have said from the beginning that one all is said and done we will find one if not both of these parents have an addiction/alcohol problem.

 

[norest4thewicked]

Hey, I guess we totally agree on something!:great:

YAYYYYY!!! :skip:

I was totally with you at first...I just fell off the fence a while back! :fencefall:

 

[In da Middle]

I admit I kinda stopped following as closely as I had for a while there, but this stuff apparently flew right past me if it's been an ongoing thing. If I've read it, I must've skimmed, discounted it as rumor, and not retained it. The older I get, the more that happens (or the more I can claim it as the reason for forgetting...LOL).

Well just sit back and wait a while. It's bound to happen again!

 

[KsStormy]

That is what we are talking about...In Da Middle and I. I think it is possible that it could have been taken to the river either in a family vehicle, in JI's work vehicle, or possibly on foot by DB, JI, a relative of one of them or a friend. There are a number of ways it could have gotten there.

THIS is what bothers me the MOST. THE most obvious, simple explanation. 2 & a half minutes to the river. I just can NOT discount that. Not with the statistics, not with the substance abuse. NO evidence, NO trace. If you wrapped/concealed a body & transported it in a car for less than 3 minutes, could dogs hit on that?

 

[Whisperer]

DB lies and she lies often. She minimizes and she exaggerates. She first stated she takes anti-anxiety meds in the morning. May or may not be true but I be it isn't true. I'm thinking she takes anti-depressants in the AM and anti-anxiety @ night.

She didn't want people to think she was depressed when this broke...so she changed up the kind of meds. I don't doublt that she has been prescribe both. I do doubt that she takes her xanax.ativan/w/e in the am and her anti-depressant at night. I wonder when she takes her mood stabilizer. Her doctor missed the boat if he didn't prescribe that....LOL.

 

[norest4thewicked]

THIS is what bothers me the MOST. THE most obvious, simple explanation. 2 & a half minutes to the river. I just can NOT discount that. Not with the statistics, not with the substance abuse. NO evidence, NO trace. If you wrapped/concealed a body & transported it in a car for less than 3 minutes, could dogs hit on that?

That's what we have been discussing the past few pages...

 

[Deleted member 39678]

And? They were? Then one went back to bed. We've known this from the beginning.

I remember early on in this case about the boys sleeping in Debbies bed that night. And then it was one boy and then it was both boys at first and only one later. All sorts of people were saying "look she's lying about the boys." It's late, I'll take a look in the morning and see if I can find something to verify my memory.

 

[CHERIE.T]

I think the confusion lies where in your post you said it was not the BRADLEY IRWIN family. Maybe that was a typo?

Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin are a family for all intents and purposes, tho not a married couple.

imho

 

[katydid23]

If a dead Lisa was transported in that car, why didn't the HRD dogs hit on that car?

I am curious to find out what Oriah or SarX says about cadaver dogs being able to hit on vehicles IF a 'newly' deceased baby is wrapped in plastic and put in a sealed container, and only in the car for 5 minutes or so. Just wondering.

 

[norest4thewicked]

I don't really believe that it matters much as to what medications she takes when. I think that this is a lot simpler than many are making it out to be. I think an accident happened and DB did what she did and she has been lucky so far. I don't think that there were any brilliant devices or actions. I don't think that this was a planned thing. I think that whatever happened, happened, and so far it is working and she hasn't been arrested.

 

[Whisperer]

Has LE ever said the phones were only receiving calls and texts, and calls and texts could not be made prior to midnight that night? I'm sure I've never seen them address that issue, but that doesn't mean it isn't so

They have tried to confuse us with these phones and sightings. I have to blank it out. AFAIK, her grandpa's phone should have been working. I am not going to start up this cell stuff but I doubt she could take her gpa's phone and transfer service to an account that is being red lined for non-payment. I still say that phone was working. She got the phone in case her service was shut off. Can't see DB EVER w/o a phone.

If anything was transferred it was probably her to her Dad's acct. DB lies. Has anyone noticed? :waitasec:

 

[In da Middle]

THIS is what bothers me the MOST. THE most obvious, simple explanation. 2 & a half minutes to the river. I just can NOT discount that. Not with the statistics, not with the substance abuse. NO evidence, NO trace. If you wrapped/concealed a body & transported it in a car for less than 3 minutes, could dogs hit on that?

What substance abuse? ( Hey Sherbie!:seeya: I knew it wouldn't take long!)

The dog people say 'yes' that any well trained dog should hit on it.

 

[Sparklin]

Apparently not some here. To get a complete picture of a crime, you need to know and should profile (if you're into solving cases) the people involved. I question why shouldn't the public know that she is married to another man and living and having children with a different one. It is all part of the picture and plays into different scenarios. One could think her husband took the child and one could think JI's other live-in took the child.

Without having the information, people can't know where to begin to look.

I realize there are people who want to protect her and show her in the best light but she is not a member of the Walton Family. Her benefactor did real well in getting them on Dr. Phil. She may pick up a few fans.

bbm = I LOVED the Waltons ~ but I don't think anyone believes that people are 'that' good in this day and age. I don't think the majority of people would even think twice about their marital status. Actually in all my almost 50 years, I have never, ever seen it questioned so vehemently as I have her on WS. I know doctors and lawyers and teachers and bankers and ceos that leave one marriage and 'immediately' live with someone else. It might be unfortunate, but it has def. become the norm as opposed to the odd. Divorce can be expensive and not everyone wants to remarry. I don't think it has anything to do with status or character, it's just a new convenience.

Night John Boy ~ where ever you may be

 

[norest4thewicked]

I am curious to find out what Oriah or SarX says about cadaver dogs being able to hit on vehicles IF a 'newly' deceased baby is wrapped in plastic and put in a sealed container, and only in the car for 5 minutes or so. Just wondering.

That is the question I just left over on the HR dog thread.

 

[Whisperer]

Bill Stanton sure gave some info. At least it is out in the open that the benefactor is connected to the family.

Oh shoot, now I have to check out the benefactor and try again for the connection. To be this well-connected is quite interesting. She could have called her family to get her cell bill paid.