Deborah Bradley & Jeremy Irwin - Dr. Phil Interview - 3 February 2012 #2

[Whisperer]

I know the medicine was Effexor, and I know MK mentioned it on her show on a segment from Oct.18th, but I cannot find a video of the segment.

I stand redeemed. Thank you. That is an anti-depressant. SO, she was on both. What a combination...just saying. Before anybody takes a gun out. I think Effexor is a wonderful med. I have my opinion of DB and kinda wonder about it for her.

:truce:

 

[vlpate]

Using your theory as a jumping off point, what time do you think she must have taken the "package" out of the house in order to work with the time line, and still have time to conceal her alleged evil deeds, IF she had done this?
The reason I ask is SB sat on her front steps for an hour with Shane after DB went inside. To our knowledge, neither of the latter has said they saw DB carry anything out of the house or drive off.
How could she carry this out when SB was watching the house for an hour, yet an abducter, it is theorized by many couldn't have come or gone without being noticed.
Does anyone know if the engine temperature of the car was checked by LE?

Fact: Baby Lisa is missing and no one saw anyone take her out the house....no one heard a sick baby with an ear infection make a peep while being carried, practically naked with no blanket to shield her from the cold, for hours and miles. Was that 'baby' a decoy, was it a dead Lisa? Was it a set up?

I wish Dr. Phil weren't so desperate for ratings, there may have been integrity and fact checking, were he not. IMO

 

[askfornina]

I stand redeemed. Thank you. That is an anti-depressant. SO, she was on both. What a combination...just saying. Before anybody takes a gun out. I think Effexor is a wonderful med. I have my opinion of DB and kinda wonder about it for her.

:truce:

http://www.pslgroup.com/dg/ebe9a.htm

Effexor XR Approved In The U.S. For Anxiety

The United States Food and Drug Administration has approved a new indication for Wyeth-Ayerst Laboratories’ Effexor(R) XR (venlafaxine HCl) Extended-Release Capsules, for the treatment of Generalised Anxiety Disorder (GAD).

The drug is already indicated for the treatment of depression.

 

[In da Middle]

I know the medicine was Effexor, and I know MK mentioned it on her show on a segment from Oct.18th, but I cannot find a video of the segment.

well if there is any one person in this whole case I tend to totally distrust what they state as fact, it is MK. She has been proven too many times, for me, to take anything that she says seriously.

 

[askfornina]

well if there is any one person in this whole case I tend to totally distrust what they state as fact, it is MK. She has been proven too many times, for me, to take anything that she says seriously.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I agree. Just trying to source the information :rocker:

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

I know the medicine was Effexor, and I know MK mentioned it on her show on a segment from Oct.18th, but I cannot find a video of the segment.

According to my DW who has been a nurse most of her adult life, Effexor is an anti-depressant, usually prescribed once a day useage, sometimes twice not not usually, most people who are on Effexor are NOT prescribed anti-anxiety pills although in rare cases they MAY be, but not the norm.
If you have any more questions ask quick before she starts watching her shows lol I can't duck as fast as I used to. :floorlaugh:

 

[vlpate]

Thanks Nina. Now, I wonder if they checked the car to see if it had been driven? If Debbie's BAC was unimportant, would her driving the car matter in the early stages of the investigation?

When they left Fiesta, DB handed the keys to her brother....her keys, or his keys? Why did she have them in the first place if they were his?

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I would think it should have been very important if they thought it was even possible for her to have done this.

It's easy to check. You put your hand on the front of the hood towards the radiator. If the hoods really hot the car was driven recently. If you don't feel any heat on the hood, raise the hood and grab the upper radiator hose. If the hose is really hot, the car was probably driven in the last couple of hours. If it's only warm, maybe three hours, and totally cold, four or five hours. That would be on a mild night like Oct 3rd. That's just my opinion from working in the automotive field for 30 yrs.

 

[In da Middle]

It's easy to check. You put your hand on the front of the hood towards the radiator. If the hoods really hot the car was driven recently. If you don't feel any heat on the hood, raise the hood and grab the upper radiator hose. If the hose is really hot, the car was probably driven in the last couple of hours. If it's only warm, maybe three hours, and totally cold, four or five hours. That would be on a mild night like Oct 3rd. That's just my opinion from working in the automotive field for 30 yrs.

yep, that easy and no tools required. Now what would the possible reason be if they did NOT do this?
Disclaimer : I am not saying they didn't, just wondering why they would not have if they didn't for any reason. It seems like a given that they SHOULD have done it.

 

[highflyer]

..oops. I didn't mean to say I saw them in person. I read about them at an event. No, she's not looking to make a buck.

If you don't know the person, how could you state she is not looking to make a buck? At least seems to be promoting her personal charity. * Which to be fair seems to be a good charity and certainly do not fault the woman for a win win situation.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

yep, that easy and no tools required. Now what would the possible reason be if they did NOT do this?
Disclaimer : I am not saying they didn't, just wondering why they would not have if they didn't for any reason. It seems like a given that they SHOULD have done it.

I don't know. It is easy so I hope they did check.

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

It's easy to check. You put your hand on the front of the hood towards the radiator. If the hoods really hot the car was driven recently. If you don't feel any heat on the hood, raise the hood and grab the upper radiator hose. If the hose is really hot, the car was probably driven in the last couple of hours. If it's only warm, maybe three hours, and totally cold, four or five hours. That would be on a mild night like Oct 3rd. That's just my opinion from working in the automotive field for 30 yrs.

And a good chance if it had recently been driven, one would hear the unmistable sound of the engine block contracting as it cooled down making a snapping noise. Any fresh drips under the car?
As a matter of fact, and I'm sure Ranch can attest to this, you can "smell" a warm engine just walking past the front of the car.
Was the exhaust dripping moisture or appear wet? Whenever a vehicle is left to cool off, simple condensation will occur at the tailpipe.

 

[vlpate]

According to my DW who has been a nurse most of her adult life, Effexor is an anti-depressant, usually prescribed once a day useage, sometimes twice not not usually, most people who are on Effexor are NOT prescribed anti-anxiety pills although in rare cases they MAY be, but not the norm.
If you have any more questions ask quick before she starts watching her shows lol I can't duck as fast as I used to. :floorlaugh:

It's actually, usually, prescribed 2 to 3 times per day in smaller doses and then dosage increases over time. This drug takes a few weeks to really start to work. My sister took it for mean PMS depression, she swore by it. She said after a while though, they made her short tempered, so she gradually stopped taking them .

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

When they left Fiesta, DB handed the keys to her brother....her keys, or his keys? Why did she have them in the first place if they were his?

I thought she handed him change, but I'll be happy to watch again if you have the link

 

[askfornina]

This is o/t I'm sorry, but I'm searching for the MK Effexor video, and I stumbled upon this. I can't believe I haven't seen it before. It's a phone interview with JI from Oct6th on FOX.

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/10/0...irwin-speaks-out-pleads-for-daughters-return/

 

[Deleted member 39678]

And a good chance if it had recently been driven, one would hear the unmistable sound of the engine block contracting as it cooled down making a snapping noise. Any fresh drips under the car?
As a matter of fact, and I'm sure Ranch can attest to this, you can "smell" a warm engine just walking past the front of the car.
Was the exhaust dripping moisture or appear wet? Whenever a vehicle is left to cool off, simple condensation will occur at the tailpipe.

Sure. And condensation dripping from the right side of the car from the evaporator if the A/C was on, especially in humid areas.

 

[norest4thewicked]

Danged Comcast! Knocked me off for the past hour. I'm sure that everyone missed me...hahaha

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

It's actually, usually, prescribed 2 to 3 times per day in smaller doses and then dosage increases over time. This drug takes a few weeks to really start to work. My sister took it for mean PMS depression, she swore by it. She said after a while though, they made her short tempered, so she gradually stopped taking them .

In short according to DW, you are correct if it is not the XR, the XR (extended release) should be taken as a single dosage http://www.effexorxr.com/about-effexor/dosage-information.aspx preferrably at the same time every day but if it is taken later in the day it's not big deal.

Effexor XR should be taken as a single dose with food at about the same time every day, either in the morning or in the evening.
The capsule should be swallowed whole; it should not be divided, crushed, chewed, or placed in water.
The capsule can also be carefully opened and its contents sprinkled onto a spoonful of applesauce. This should be swallowed immediately and followed by drinking a glass of water. Do not chew this mixture before swallowing.

 

[mrsu]

oh...I hate to admit. I think I was fleeced by DB on Dr. Phil. I really felt for her and really got the feeling she had nothing to do with the disappearance.

I agree that she might not be the perfect mother, but I think it's possible that quite a lot of things that we have perceived as FACTS are likely things that have been perpetuated in the media.

At this point I think she was taken. For what reason, I'm not sure. But the reported sightings of the man and baby are just too much of a coincidence for me. I truly do wonder how focused the LE have been on the parents and whether they really got to the bottom of those sightings.

A couple questions came up for me during the show:

-Deborah says she went to sleep with both boys. I thought it was *reported* that she remembered checking on the boys but did not remember if she checked on Lisa or not. I remember finding this extremely odd...how is that even possible? Now I wonder if her statements were misconstrued in the media.

-Also, I wasn't aware that someone tried to access the web from one of the stolen phones in the middle of the night. That leads me to believe that the person who took the phones tried to access the internet, only to find out that the phones didn't work. I don't understand why Debbie or Jeremy would access the internet from either of the phones when they were aware they hadn't paid the bill and could only receive calls.

 

[norest4thewicked]

oh...I hate to admit. I think I was fleeced by DB on Dr. Phil. I really felt for her and really got the feeling she had nothing to do with the disappearance.

I agree that she might not be the perfect mother, but I think it's possible that quite a lot of things that we have perceived as FACTS are likely things that have been perpetuated in the media.

At this point I think she was taken. For what reason, I'm not sure. But the reported sightings of the man and baby are just too much of a coincidence for me. I truly do wonder how focused the LE have been on the parents and whether they really got to the bottom of those sightings.

A couple questions came up for me during the show:

-Deborah says she went to sleep with both boys. I thought it was *reported* that she remembered checking on the boys but did not remember if she checked on Lisa or not. I remember finding this extremely odd...how is that even possible? Now I wonder if her statements were misconstrued in the media.

-Also, I wasn't aware that someone tried to access the web from one of the stolen phones in the middle of the night. That leads me to believe that the person who took the phones tried to access the internet, only to find out that the phones didn't work. I don't understand why Debbie or Jeremy would access the internet from either of the phones when they were aware they hadn't paid the bill and could only receive calls.

I'll give it to DB...she is a good actress.

It was previously reported (by DB herself) that only one child was in the bed. But then JI made his statement that he checked on the boys and so then they had to figure out how to change that story to make it match up. I don't care what anyone says, THIS was a story change...and more than once.

I never heard a reliable source state that someone tried to access the Internet from one of the phones. I think that a lot of this is getting all mixed up, but then again, I myself get mixed up sometimes...sooooo....