Decomposed Body found in Scurry Co.*3/16/13* - LE identified as being Hailey

[Hatch]

Billie looks healthier in the new interview, maybe put on a pound or two, and not so spacey.

 

[Tugela]

The chunk of time that his phone drops off the radar is from 6:56am to 9;38am.. the phone last pings the northern Ccity tower and then drops off radar for ovver 2 and a half hours and then comes on pinging the tower at his momma's in Big Spring..IMO this is the chunk of time he disposed of her body..

furthermore in just now looking back at those cell records it indicates that Shawn stated to LE that upon leaving work at 6:10am that he drove immediately and directly to momma's in Big Spring..but LE states his cell records prove this untrue and actually show that Shawn left work at 6:10 and returned to the home on Chestnut...

moo btwn 6:56am and 9:38am is the window of time that Shawn disposed of Hailey's body..jmo, tho and it is the exact and only reason that his cell phone drops off the radar for nearly 3 hour window time.. moo that's no coincidence..

The affidavit said that he drove straight to the mothers house, it did not say directly. Later SA claimed they didn't ask specifics and that he went via the grandmothers house (no one was there).

The lack of detail (such as attributing a specific route, which you would have expected if they actually did ask) is a curious ommision from the affidavit, which suggest that SA is correct in saying that they didn't ask, but inferred it later.

 

[belimom]

My personal opinion is that she killed Hailey and that Shawn moved Hailey to where she was left.

Its crossed my mind a few times that he was just the clean up and fall guy.

I might could see that. What's your thinking on motivation/scenario? Just a fit of rage... or something more sinister?

 

[katydid23]

"It's been utter chaos. It's just been a mess knowing my daughter's not here. There's so much I'm missing out on. I see people in the stores all the time, moms and daughters... and the daughter's throwing a fit because she's not getting what she wants. That should be me and my daughter arguing over what shoes she's going to get or what car I'm going to buy her.... I'm missing out on so much," said Dunn.


Same old Billie. SHE is missing out on so much. Pffft.

 

[Texasmom]

I imagine thats why she sent him a friend request on facebook for after she moved out then...cos he harassed her.

I cannot find him on FB, what is he listed under? I am finding some Bobby's that seem to be him,,, there is one Bobby that has pictures of Hailey and some weird deviled blonde hair girl,, and another Bobby ,, but I think these are the same person with different last names

 

[ozazure]

It doesnt matter what either of them are saying now, what matters is that LE verified whatever they were saying at the time (wrt to when BD left).

If SA did indeed take her to work, then other parts of their affidavit would be difficult to reconcile. Moreover, given the bullseye they have on him, they would have mentioned that for sure as evidence that he was lying - afterall that is exactly what they were aiming at in the affidavit, so why ignore that?

They did not.

So, as much as people might want to believe that SA took her to work, or what they might be saying now (for reasons best known to themselves), the independent evidence we know about suggests otherwise.

The thing is, to me the official documents are written with a great degree of bias and like you I see the target on Shawn's back. We differ in that you believe the witness sightings and that changes a lot. I believe that LE wrote what they could get away with to get search warrants, especially with regards to "child " on the computer and what was released to the media with regards to the images. On the 7th of January, when that quote is taken, perhaps things were not pinned down as tight. Given how badly it looks to me like this was handled, I don't give a lot of weight to the "witnesses and reports" being 100% investigated on January 7th. It probably suited a narrative to have it appear that Shawn was returning home as Billie left.

But basically yes I agree - there is a good chance that he didn't drive her and the revision is incorrect. The story changes and there is only one true version and without independent evidence I have nfi.

 

[ozazure]

"It's been utter chaos. It's just been a mess knowing my daughter's not here. There's so much I'm missing out on. I see people in the stores all the time, moms and daughters... and the daughter's throwing a fit because she's not getting what she wants. That should be me and my daughter arguing over what shoes she's going to get or what car I'm going to buy her.... I'm missing out on so much," said Dunn.


Same old Billie. SHE is missing out on so much. Pffft.

Yes and why the hell is what she is missing about conflict?? Far out.

 

[katydid23]

"I see people in the stores all the time, moms and daughters... and the daughter's throwing a fit because she's not getting what she wants. "

Very interesting that she describes this ^^^ as her memory trigger. 'Hailey throwing a fit' because she is not getting what she wants. Didn't they say the kids got exactly what they wanted for Christmas?

 

[Knox]

I am confused. Is she saying now that Christmas dinner was the last she saw of Hailey that day?

IIRC, she spent Christmas Day with Clint and came home the next morning, Sunday, December 26th.

ETA: Found the timeline Billie wrote up at that pressor she held at her house.
http://www.sweetwaterreporter.com/sites/default/files/Billie Dunn timeline.PDF

 

[SmoothOperator]

regarding the pings- thought I would repost this up here- the affidavit does not indicate that SA went to Chestnut- IMHO it is alluding to the fact that he was in proximity to Ccty, in some capacity.
And if you further want to examine it, and pull your hair out, there is the issue of 'northern' transmitter, when quite obviously Chestnut is south of the tower. Of course there is a chance it was omni directional transmitter.

PS.please remember LE did not release BD cell record info...and may not have released all they had for SA, except what was needed to substantiate the affidavit

a refresher


Telephone records obtained by investigators show ADKINS' cellular phone was using Verizon cell tower number 724 on the tower northern coverage area transmitter, which is located at coordinates 32.41262-100.86900 in the area of Colorado City,TX from 6:35 am to 6:56 am with a break in usage until 9:38am thru 2:40 pm when records indicate Adkins' phone was in the area of Big Spring, Texas by pinging Verizon cell tower #730 coordinates 32.22156-101-45867 which captured 11 phone calls from 9:38 am until 2:40 pm on the northwest coverage area transmitter

http://www.reporternews.com/photos/g...section_header

yep, ITA with the fact that LE is going to state the absolute minimum necessary in order to receive the search warrant for which an affidavit is sworn and filed..

I also agree that they don't specify that he went to the home on Chestnut, but rather specify that his phone was pinging the northern CCity cell tower ..

so, this is not the tower that would be pinged from the area of the home?

my only reason for believing it to have been the tower of the home is due to LE added in the info that this is when Shaun returned to the home.. moo is I've never been a believer that Shaun returned to the home after work, due to I believe he/she'd already long since harmed Hailey..

 

[For The Kids]

I might could see that. What's your thinking on motivation/scenario? Just a fit of rage... or something more sinister?

A fit of rage yes.

 

[Tugela]

Call them whatever you'd like LE state in the affidavit that the phone last pings CCITY northern tower at 6:56am... break in usage ..and then at 9:38am begins pinging at the Big Spring tower that's used from momma's house..

Shawn Adkins at that point in time was using a Verizon blackberry.. his phone pings regardless of his placing or receiving phone calls.. the phone last pings at 6:56am of northern tower in CCITY.. then for over two and a half hours there is nothing.. his phone at 9:38am picks up pinging in Big Spring, TX..

Shawn's blackberry traveling from the tower in CCity all the way to the tower in Big Spring WOULD HAVE CONTINUED PINGING TOWERS TRAVELING IN THOSE OVER TWO AND A HALF HOURS REGARDLESS OF HIS PLACING/RECEIVING CALLS..

THE ONLY WAY HIS PHONE WOULD NOT PING IS IF IT WAS POWERED OFF OR BATTERY REMOVED..

THERE IS NO USAGE, PERIOD BTWN 6:56AM TO 9:38AM..NO CALLS, NO PINGS..

It can be called anything ..but the point is it was deliberately off the radar for nearly 3 hours.. deliberately not being used..and deliberately not pinging.. that IMO is the important issue..

Routing records of phone calls are maintained by phone companies, but ping records get overwritten in a relatively short period of time. There is no reason for the phone company to retain a complete record of the phone for any length of time, it would generate an enormous amount of data.

By the time LE went looking for phone records, the only record available at that time was probably the calls themselves.

 

[For The Kids]

I cannot find him on FB, what is he listed under? I am finding some Bobby's that seem to be him,,, there is one Bobby that has pictures of Hailey and some weird deviled blonde hair girl,, and another Bobby ,, but I think these are the same person with different last names

Shawn Casey Adkinz

 

[For The Kids]

The thing is, to me the official documents are written with a great degree of bias and like you I see the target on Shawn's back. We differ in that you believe the witness sightings and that changes a lot. I believe that LE wrote what they could get away with to get search warrants, especially with regards to "child " on the computer and what was released to the media with regards to the images. On the 7th of January, when that quote is taken, perhaps things were not pinned down as tight. Given how badly it looks to me like this was handled, I don't give a lot of weight to the "witnesses and reports" being 100% investigated on January 7th. It probably suited a narrative to have it appear that Shawn was returning home as Billie left.

But basically yes I agree - there is a good chance that he didn't drive her and the revision is incorrect. The story changes and there is only one true version and without independent evidence I have nfi.

Did you by any chance listen to the interview that Mac Sanford gave last n ight on the radio? he said that his opinion of Billie changed because of the interview given by the co worker. He said because of what was said (?) he believed Billie could have been in the car when Shawn went to work. From that I am not so sure that the co worker did back up Billlies original version.

 

[SmoothOperator]

There are lots of places around the area where there are dead zones, and when there is no tower within reach there is nothing to ping off of.

oh I know there are absolutely areas outside of coverage, not near a tower to ping, but IMO that is not the issue for this entire block of time.. yes, absolutely could be for some part, but nope, IMO not the issue for the entire large chunk of time of nearly 3 hours..

do you believe his smartphone wouldn't have pinged anywhere between CCity and His mom's home? I don't.. IMO if the phone was not deliberately kept from pinging, the phone would absolutely be pinging at points throughout that nearly 3 hour continuous block of time..jmo, tho.

 

[Tugela]

I dont know about you but I havent seen evidence that LE do think that any co- worker took her to work. What they was told and what they may believe are two different things.

They don't say who took her, but they DO say that they verified when she left, both from records and from interviews with witnesses. So, we know she left at 6.20. We also know that SA left work at 6.10 am. The earliest we have him in the CC area is 25 minutes later. Unless he has some special way to get from work back to CC in 10 minutes that we don't know about, he could not have taken her to work.

 

[For The Kids]

IIRC, she spent Christmas Day with Clint and came home the next morning, Sunday, December 26th.

ETA: Found the timeline Billie wrote up at that pressor she held at her house.
http://www.sweetwaterreporter.com/sites/default/files/Billie Dunn timeline.PDF

Yes but from the article December 27th 2010.... It was the last time Billie Dunn ever saw her then 13 year old daughter Hailey.


"Telling her it was time to sit down and eat Christmas dinner, she likes to eat like any country girl does...and then I saw her the next morning in her bed,” said Dunn.
well the next morning in her bed is the monday morning so the dinner was on the sunday? I am not sure I am making much sense.. She said about seeing her at dinner than again the next morning but how about that evening? unless its just the way shes talking?

 

[Tugela]

Your assuming of course that LE dont have the information I happen to know that they do. Thats not in dispute

Then why is it not in the affidavit?

Are you assuming that what they told you is accurate?

 

[For The Kids]

They don't say who took her, but they DO say that they verified when she left, both from records and from interviews with witnesses. So, we know she left at 6.20. We also know that SA left work at 6.10 am. The earliest we have him in the CC area is 25 minutes later. Unless he has some special way to get from work back to CC in 10 minutes that we don't know about, he could not have taken her to work.

We will see what happens. I am pretty postive that it will turn out that the co worker didnt take Billie to work that Monday morning.

 

[Knox]

Shawn Casey Adkinz

Kreatur Der Nacht ...

I see he hasn't lost his fondness for the grotesque.