Dellen Millard: Innocent Dupe? Alternative Theories

[axe2grind]

Then, there's the simplest of all possible alternative theories as I posted somewhere on another thread - no idea when or where. This one serves to principally exonerate DM. It's the one that exercises some imaginations because they feel that people don't buy big ticket items with cash; that curbsiding your own vehicle means you wouldn't accept cash and/or that buying/selling an automobile is a transaction involving lots of formal paperwork. None of those concerns hold water.

So the simplest alternate theory goes like this. Say WM really was looking to buy a black 2007 Dodge Ram 3500 diesel pickup for some purpose. Didn't like the one he saw on Sunday. Took TB's out for a test drive Monday night. Drove it up to Brantford. BOUGHT IT with cash on the spot. He has a busy day tomorrow finalizing a real estate deal, etc, and it's already late so, as planned, he leaves in his own vehicle (the one "following" that has an unknown number of other people in it and is possibly driven by his <MODSNIP>) to go home while giving instructions to the other guys to take the truck up to the hangar and leave it there. In other words, what if he and maybe his <MODSNIP> left the scene before any of the violence took place?

What could have happened next in that scenario was the successful robbery of the 25 grand cash in a tussle with these hopped-up feral "friends" that led to TB's death either accidentally or on purpose, and then the vehicle's delivery first to the hangar and manage to get it rammed into the black trailer. But what about this body? So now they drive the trailer to DM's farm and try to get rid of rid of it. Then they drive the trailer to DM's mother's house and leave it there. (If you ask me why didn't they just leave TB inside the truck inside the trailer at the hangar, then I'd have to admit you found the biggest hole in this scenario - unless one or other of them works at the hangar and thought they'd maybe escape LE attention if they didn't leave all the evidence there.)

Anyway, maybe "follow the money" in this case is as stupidly simple as that? MOO.

I'm just wondering why they would go all the way to Brantford in that case? Maybe he wanted his "mechanic" to check it over?

There would have to be more than dm's <modsnip> following in the truck for sure in that case...If it's just <modsnip> following in the truck and they leave the scene after paying TB, that would just leave TB and MS with TB's truck in Brantford... and that would be a lot for just one person to do... kill, burn TB, load the truck in the trailer, drive it to DMs mother's place a couple of days later...(plus where would he keep the truck/trailer for a couple of days until it's dropped off at Dms mother's driveway?)

What I would like to know is where is DM's red truck... MIA... hiding somewhere, but no one seems to be out looking for it. Maybe if you find that truck, you also find suspect #3.

 

[Mantequilla]

Good point. My bad. I forgot the truck was found after the arrest. So the caller knew that DM was MB's son, then? Did I read somewhere that their relationship was not generally known?

Another neighbor reported "Before the trailer showed up last Thursday, Dimas didn&#8217;t even know Burns&#8217;s son by name. Dellen Millard rarely visited his mother, he said."

http://metronews.ca/news/toronto/678720/neighbours-say-they-want-to-console-millards-mother/

Burns, who has lived at 32 Tinsmith Court for a good 10 years, has always kept to herself. Neighbours never saw much more of her than a friendly wave, but since last Sunday, they haven't seen her at all.

http://www.therecord.com/news/canada/article/936414--neighbours-miss-millard-s-quiet-mother
So how did they know she was Dellen's mother, especially with a different last name?

 

[Lindsay7136]

Not if he's got the business incorporated.

Good point, I think Millardair is incorporated (unless that's changed recently).

 

[Carli]

I dunno Carli .. I just can't see TB (or anyone for that matter) being naive enough to accept a wad of bills for $25,000 without being able to have them checked out at a bank to ensure they weren't counterfeit. I've known it to be done on an $800 item ... buyer and seller attended at the bank to have the bills verified.

Point well taken SillyBilly. Out in these parts (BC) boats are frequently bought and sold on the docks that way; auctions insist on dealing in cash and cowboys, movie stars, recent immigrants and yes, crazy bushwacked aviators feel much more relaxed, for whatever reasons, with cash transactions. I think we're probably less savvy about real world rip offs than our eastern cousins. Also, I imagine quite a bit of loose cash was/is flying around in DM's world at the moment as he settles up his father's estate including the sale, wherever possible, of everything that isn't nailed down. Maybe, as you're selling this and that, you don't necessarily want to put every bit of cash in the bank only to pay probate on it later.

(One thing is sure. There certainly would seem to be one heck of a lot of unsecured assets lying around at this moment without anybody making sure the doors are locked.)

 

[Sillybilly]

Point well taken SillyBilly. Out in these parts (BC) boats are frequently bought and sold on the docks that way; auctions insist on dealing in cash and cowboys, movie stars, recent immigrants and yes, crazy bushwacked aviators feel much more relaxed, for whatever reasons, with cash transactions. I think we're probably less savvy about real world rip offs than our eastern cousins. Also, I imagine quite a bit of loose cash was/is flying around in DM's world at the moment as he settles up his father's estate including the sale, wherever possible, of everything that isn't nailed down. Maybe, as you're selling this and that, you don't necessarily want to put every bit of cash in the bank only to pay probate on it later.

Whaddya mean "less savvy"? I'm in BC :floorlaugh:

I can understand your scenario from DM's point of view, but I couldn't see the seller finding that point of view acceptable. Just a courteous "Oh geez man ... I just can't take that chance. I need a money order or bank draft of something other than cash".

JMO

 

[axe2grind]

Around the time TB went missing, DM was seen in his yard with a few other guys doing yardwork. Were they burying something in the yard?

 

[Carli]

Whaddya mean "less savvy"? I'm in BC :floorlaugh:

I can understand your scenario from DM's point of view, but I couldn't see the seller finding that point of view acceptable. Just a courteous "Oh geez man ... I just can't take that chance. I need a money order or bank draft of something other than cash".

JMO

LOL. Good point. But yanno, generally speaking, if somebody offers you cash for something, go ahead and take it. After all, in this case, TB wasn't expecting to be murdered. He had all the details necessary to perfectly describe his vehicle and may also have had all the contact information necessary to find DM again. Also, we don't know if there was any previous business or other second-hand contact which may have led TB to have heard of DM because of the major airport construction. I grant you, it's iffy though.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Wait a minute. I thought the week went this way.

Mon: Test drive and TB missing.
Tue: DM buys real estate
Wed: DM seen with other guys doing yardwork at his place.
Thurs: FC reports a trailer in MB's driveway.
Fri: DM arrested.

So, unless I'm mistaken, before Friday there were reports about TB having gone missing and general search for his missing truck but nothing to suggest DM had anything to do with any crime and TB's body had not yet been found. So, my question remains, what would possess a neighbor to call LE about a trailer in his neighbor's driveway? Has my mental clutch completely slipped on this?

The trailer was noticed by neighbours Wed/Thu but only reported to LE Sunday, so:

Mon: Test drive and TB missing.
Tue: DM closes real estate deal that likely took weeks
Wed: DM seen with other guys doing yardwork at his place. Trailer arrives at MB's during Leafs game according to one neighbour
Thurs: FC NOTICES a trailer in MB's driveway.
Fri: DM arrested.
Sun: FC calls LE re: trailer

"A large covered trailer, which is believed to contain Mr. Bosma&#8217;s truck, was found on Sunday at Mr. Millard&#8217;s mother&#8217;s home in Kleinburg, north of Toronto. Det. Sgt. Kavanagh, who said the trailer is owned by Mr. Millard&#8217;s business, said officers expected to begin processing the trailer and truck on Monday after obtaining a search warrant.

FC, who lives beside Madeleine Burns, Mr. Millard&#8217;s mother, called police on Sunday morning after becoming suspicious about the black trailer, which appeared in her driveway on Thursday evening and was parked against the garage door. Ms. Burns did not return phone messages."

http://m.theglobeandmail.com/news/n...in-bosma-case/article11883445/?service=mobile

 

[Carli]

The trailer was noticed by neighbours Wed/Thu but only reported to LE Sunday, so:

Mon: Test drive and TB missing.
Tue: DM closes real estate deal that likely took weeks
Wed: DM seen with other guys doing yardwork at his place. Trailer arrives at MB's during Leafs game according to one neighbour
Thurs: FC NOTICES a trailer in MB's driveway.
Fri: DM arrested.
Sun: FC calls LE re: trailer

"A large covered trailer, which is believed to contain Mr. Bosma&#8217;s truck, was found on Sunday at Mr. Millard&#8217;s mother&#8217;s home in Kleinburg, north of Toronto. Det. Sgt. Kavanagh, who said the trailer is owned by Mr. Millard&#8217;s business, said officers expected to begin processing the trailer and truck on Monday after obtaining a search warrant.

FC, who lives beside Madeleine Burns, Mr. Millard&#8217;s mother, called police on Sunday morning after becoming suspicious about the black trailer, which appeared in her driveway on Thursday evening and was parked against the garage door. Ms. Burns did not return phone messages."

http://m.theglobeandmail.com/news/n...in-bosma-case/article11883445/?service=mobile

Thanks Snooper. I just checked the info online and rediscovered the same thing but you got here before I hit Delete. LOL.

"He first saw the trailer parked in the adjacent driveway on Tinsmith Ct. in Kleinburg after midnight last Thursday.

&#8220;It looked suspicious in that regard,&#8221; the 52-year-old said. &#8220;We had never seen the trailer before so my neighbour across the street and I talked about it and said it&#8217;s probably a good idea to have the police check it, after we came to know that he was the suspect.&#8221;

Hamilton Police confirmed in a news release Monday that the trailer belonged to Millard&#8217;s business. However, they were unable to confirm the black pick-up truck inside the trailer belonged to Bosma, who is still missing.

FC said it&#8217;s shocking to know his neighbour, Madeleine, was the mother of the suspect in custody in the high-profile case.

Perhaps the reporter isn't exactly reflecting the conversation because at one and the same time he suggests the call to the police was because they learned DM was a suspect but at the same time were surprised to learn somehow that their neighbor was the suspect's mother.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2013/05/13/20817846.html

 

[Wendy101]

I'm curious. How does this theory play out?

What if Tim bought this truck from some drug dealing person that had something stored in it, under the back seat? So, the ex-owner of the truck needs that truck back to get whatever is in the seat?

I don't know really... But there is a reason those boys wanted this particular truck...

 

[bessie]

He first saw the trailer parked in the adjacent driveway on Tinsmith Ct. in Kleinburg after midnight last Thursday.

“It looked suspicious in that regard,” the 52-year-old said. “We had never seen the trailer before so my neighbour across the street and I talked about it and said it’s probably a good idea to have the police check it, after we came to know that he was the suspect.”

FC and other neighbours called York Regional Police Sunday morning to come check the trailer.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2013/05/13/20817846.html

 

[SnooperDuper]

He first saw the trailer parked in the adjacent driveway on Tinsmith Ct. in Kleinburg after midnight last Thursday.

“It looked suspicious in that regard,” the 52-year-old said. “We had never seen the trailer before so my neighbour across the street and I talked about it and said it’s probably a good idea to have the police check it, after we came to know that he was the suspect.”

FC and other neighbours called York Regional Police Sunday morning to come check the trailer.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2013/05/13/20817846.html

And here is the WEDNESDAY NIGHT reference:

Last Sunday,police cars swarmed a quiet street in Kleinburg surrounding a large black covered trailer parked on a driveway . Neighbours said it had appeared days earlier, on Wednesday night while they watched the Leafs lose their fourth playoff game.

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2013/05/18/tim_bosma_the_painful_search_for_a_missing_man.html

Bob Dimas, who also lives on Tinsmith, said he saw someone bringing the black trailer in on Wednesday night, while Dimas and his son were watching the Maple Leafs game. Then by Sunday, “there were more police cars on the street than there were neighbourhood cars.”

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2013/05/12/tim_bosmas_mom_makes_mothers_day_plea_for_his_safe_return.html

 

[pinkelephant1111]

What if someone wanted to take out TB for whatever reason and DM was blackmailed to be a part of this via organized crime? There would be no direct link between TB and DM obviously.

OC had warned DM via many ways already - possibly LB's disappearance, WM's suicide, and finally he relents because he has no choice. I think this was mentioned before that the trailer on his mom's driveway was a message from OC that they knew where his mom lived, which is why he continued to keep silent behind bars. This would also explain why he didn't run and hide immediately after MSM's news about TB missing - because he was being watched by OC.

And MS, being part of that OC, thinks that since the got DM and DM has not been talking he is safe. This would help me get my head around why the two did not run immediately after the crime, and why both did not put up much resistance when they were arrested.

 

[otto]

I really doubt that Millard was duped. We have Tim Bosma murdered, Lauren Babcock missing and an investigation into Millard's fathers' "suicide" ... all connected to Millard. I don't think police believe there was any duping going on. Furthermore, Millard is the man with the money - which would make him the ringleader, not the duped victim.

I think that Dellen got greedy for his inheritance, eliminated his father, got mad at Lauren, murdered her and wanted a thrill, so he murdered Tim.

 

[Carli]

And here is the WEDNESDAY NIGHT reference:

Last Sunday,police cars swarmed a quiet street in Kleinburg surrounding a large black covered trailer parked on a driveway . Neighbours said it had appeared days earlier, on Wednesday night while they watched the Leafs lose their fourth playoff game.

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2013/05/18/tim_bosma_the_painful_search_for_a_missing_man.html

Bob Dimas, who also lives on Tinsmith, said he saw someone bringing the black trailer in on Wednesday night, while Dimas and his son were watching the Maple Leafs game. Then by Sunday, &#8220;there were more police cars on the street than there were neighbourhood cars.&#8221;

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2013/05/12/tim_bosmas_mom_makes_mothers_day_plea_for_his_safe_return.html

I think I also recall the Oakville neighbors remembering that there were a group of men doing yardwork at DM's residence during the hockey game on Wednesday night. Given all the beetling about doing chores and moving vehicles during this time period, I think we can assume a new fact in this case. The alleged evildoers so far charged in this case are not hockey fans. :truce:

 

[pinkelephant1111]

I think I also recall the Oakville neighbors remembering that there were a group of men doing yardwork at DM's residence during the hockey game on Wednesday night. Given all the beetling about doing chores and moving vehicles during this time period, I think we can assume a new fact in this case. The alleged evildoers so far charged in this case are not hockey fans. :truce:

That or they only then realized how urgent it was to hide the evidence and prioritized it over hockey...

 

[Carli]

I really doubt that Millard was duped. We have Tim Bosma murdered, Lauren Babcock missing and an investigation into Millard's fathers' "suicide" ... all connected to Millard. I don't think police believe there was any duping going on. Furthermore, Millard is the man with the money - which would make him the ringleader, not the duped victim.

I think that Dellen got greedy for his inheritance, eliminated his father, got mad at Lauren, murdered her and wanted a thrill, so he murdered Tim.

Could be, but it does seem that WM was not exactly parsimonious when it came to supplying his son with money. Laura was reported missing long before WM's sudden death and as we're now learning, (according to the other thread) that even her parents appear to harbour doubts about DM's involvement. Other than heresay we don't know exactly what that involvement may actually have been except that she left a series of mostly 1 minute phone calls - sounds like they may have been unanswered messages left on his machine. I quite agree that as you say, LE probably does not believe any duping was going down. Otherwise why would they have laid charges of murder in the 1st degree? However, we are not limited to repeating LE convictions because this is, as the thread title suggests, a place to explore alternative theories about the case in the off chance that something very useful might turn up.

 

[somecatchphrase]

DM has a red mohawk in some of the photos of him seen online...he is also "a direct descendant of Chief Joseph Brant," the Mohawk leader who aided the British forces during the American Revolution in the mid-1700s.

I looked up the meaning of "red mohawk" and it does have some significance -- possibly to his state of mind when he made the choice to shave and dye his hair that way.

Red Color Meanings and Symbolism: The color of red symbolised violence, war, blood, wounds, strength, energy, power and success in war paint. http://www.warpaths2peacepipes.com/native-american-symbols/color-meanings-symbolism.htm

The 'Mohawk' Hair style is a form of war preperation by the Kanienkehaka or Mohawk Nation. Shaving one's hair was a both a physical and spiritual declaration of war. Leaving a strip of hair was seen as a sign of armed neutrally but a willingness to show agression.
http://www.blurtit.com/q1958093.html

 

[Carli]

DM has a red mohawk in some of the photos of him seen online...he is also "a direct descendant of Chief Joseph Brant," the Mohawk leader who aided the British forces during the American Revolution in the mid-1700s.

I looked up the meaning of "red mohawk" and it does have some significance -- possibly to his state of mind when he made the choice to shave and dye his hair that way.

Red Color Meanings and Symbolism: The color of red symbolised violence, war, blood, wounds, strength, energy, power and success in war paint. http://www.warpaths2peacepipes.com/native-american-symbols/color-meanings-symbolism.htm

The 'Mohawk' Hair style is a form of war preperation by the Kanienkehaka or Mohawk Nation. Shaving one's hair was a both a physical and spiritual declaration of war. Leaving a strip of hair was seen as a sign of armed neutrally but a willingness to show agression.
http://www.blurtit.com/q1958093.html

Thanks. Interesting to learn about that. In this instance however, I think it was implied via MSM that the red mohawk was part of his get up for that 2011 Baha race. Colour sort of matched his pickup truck. I haven't seen other pictures of him with a do like that, but there aren't many pictures of him online.

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/2873832-police-nab-suspect-in-bosma-case-with-ambition-tattoo/

 

[Claroon]

It's a possibility that the $1 transfer to his mom was for tax/business-related purposes. If the house is in his name and he owns a business, they can go after it if something happens with the business.

The $1 was probably because he signed a binding contract and someone would have to take possession at the closing date, etc. I take it like a power of attorney type of thing. IMO