GUILTY Denmark - Kim Wall, 30, Copenhagen, 10 Aug 2017

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Just a tiny snippet:

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Comment by Brian
Notice that he often uses the prosecutor's first name and pushes the accusation on to him. How does the prosecutor react to this (strategy)


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Answer from Caroline Clante
The prosecutor goes on to the next question, otherwise he says 'now it's not me who's charged'.

https://ekstrabladet.dk/112/live-anklager-viser-henrettelsesvideoer-i-retten/7086194

 

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Drawings from courtroom from the last hearing.

 

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Betina Hald asking general questions about Nautilus, financing, people getting tours on it.
Not sure what her end goal is.

 

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OK, the judge just interrupted Betina Hald, judge thinks they are moving too far away from the case, she wants them to focus on the case.

They are talking about the split from Copenhagen Suborbitals. Peter Madsen cannot hide his irritation when he talks about it.

 

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We are beginning to see where they are going, because now they are talking about unsafe experiments PM has been prone to make.
All that to make an accident on board Nautilus plausible.

PM is described as leaned back during this process.

 

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Talk about personal things, his marriage. He met his wife at a birthday party, they married one year later. He says that is the only time he will ever be married.
They wanted a child and wanted to have a stable family life (THANK GOD THEY DIDN`T!!!), but they had three cats and their life was like mommy, daddy and cats....

His wife was more shy than him, she wasn´t comfortable with all the people at the workshop.
It was not a breach of their (his!) "pact" that he had sexual relations to other people, but he had to promise not to have relations to any of her girlfriends.

He couldn´t promise not to have relations to women who were at the workshop and now the talk falls on Deirdre King who worked there.
They had an on and off relationship.
That became problematic to his wife.

They broke up for a period of time, and PM offered to Deirdre to move in with him.
He muses: perhaps she is the wife I never got but should have had (he is such a tool!!!!!)

 

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Betina Hald asking if Deirdre had been on the submarine.
Peter Madsen says he has to be careful here, because he does not remember if they were intimate on the sub.
BH: that was not what I was asking, I asked if she had sailed with him on subm.

PM: I don´t remember, perhaps with other people.

Peter Madsen tells that he had an appointment sailing out with Deirdre on the submarine the day after the trip with Kim Wall.

 

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Going to Google Translate (sorry!)

The lawyer now asks for another of the women who had been on Nautilus. One of them is a photographer who also used the submarine to sit and write in because it was quiet.
- She said it was created by the Holy Ghost. She was amazing and could tell about underground tunnels in Frederiksberg, says Peter Madsen.
- I appointed her as propaganda minister in the laboratory, says Peter Madsen.

The lawyer is now asking for the relationship between this woman and Peter Madsen.
"We talked a lot about what we called Kink," says Peter Madsen.
"I could not be in the laboratory if I needed peace, so I rented her apartment at Vesterbro," says Peter Madsen.
"We talked a lot about naughty things, and she turned out to be a human being with what I call a hyper-sexuality. We did not do anything because she knew my wife and that would mean I broke the covenant, says Peter Madsen.







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- She also had some strange sides. She sometimes said that she would be killed and that she would be found in Utterslev moss, says Peter Madsen.
- We also once saw a video with a woman who eats a mouse. The mouse will die of course and we talked a lot about it, says Peter Madsen.

- Did she also send some pictures that were not so nice, asks the lawyer.
"Yes, sometimes, she sent pictures as she herself had made," says Peter Madsen, describing, among other things, a picture where a woman's genitals has been mirrored in a butcher's knife.​

 

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According to Peter Madsen, the woman is a part of the laboratory since 2015.
"We are close and she is very special. I love her, says Peter Madsen.
The lawyer asks if the woman has used some of the things that were in the laboratory. Including cameras and computers in the hangar.
"She has, among other things, had a hard drive for loans," says Peter Madsen.

- If we just hold on to it. Cameras and Hard Drives - Did she tell her what she used it to? "Asks the lawyer.
"I do not know, but I think she used it for videos from the laboratory," says Peter Madsen.
- What about the computers?
- She had her own computer, and so I had one that I used for my lectures. But it was also used by others, says Peter Madsen.

Peter Madsen now tells that his wife has also had access to his computer and camera.
- What about the interns? "Asks the lawyer.
- They have had their own, but they have also had access to mine to install things and such.
- Why is that. Can not you? ", Asks the lawyer.
- Young people today they are native Internet people. They are in control of it and can do something we can not, says Peter Madsen.




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- There is some of this video material found that also has with the Islamic state. Is it one of the interns you've talked about? Did you talk about dark net and so? "Asks the lawyer.
- The videos are something found on news media.
- But do you have access to the dark network, asks the lawyer.
"No, not at all," says Peter Madsen.

Peter Madsen now tells about his interns and about the women and men who come to the hangar on the Refshale island.
He speaks warmly about them. "They are amazing," he says.

He is now being asked for one of the women who have exchanged rape fantasies with Peter Madsen via SMS.
The young woman meets Peter Madsen for a techno party. He shows her, among other things, the submarine Nautilus one day where he has set candles all over the submarine. They later develop an erotic relationship.
"I take her to a lecture in Holland," says Peter Madsen.




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"What's up with her is that I get an erotic relationship with her. I'm very happy with her, says Peter Madsen.
- I find that she has some needs that I can not meet, even if I would like to.
- She is very SM. But I'm not able to give her it. It is not me and therefore we are not lovers.

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It was a difficult situation because I was very fond of her, but I was also happy for my wife so I stayed there, says Peter Madsen.
- Did you continue to have a close relationship until your arrest?
- Yes, says Peter Madsen.




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I don´t know where they are going with all this???

 

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Sounds like he is trying to make it look like ALL the women around him (minus wife) are into kinky stuff - NOT HIM!

Nasty human being, through and through!

 

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The lawyer is now entering another young woman, to whom Peter Madsen had a relationship. It is a woman who takes film in the laboratory.
"She thinks it's an exciting place," said Peter Madsen.
"She wonders that she wants a sponsor and I'm joking back that I may be," says Peter Madsen.
- A sponsor ?, asks the lawyer.
- A suckardaddy if you want to. She is young and needs money for her cameras and such, says Peter Madsen, who, however, refuses to afford such a kind. The two develop an erotic relationship.​

 

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When Peter Madsen initiates the new relationship, the second with the other young woman goes a little way.
"But with people like us, it's not just a light that turns on and off," says Peter Madsen.
He also explains that in the summer of last year he had an agreement with the two young women about a threesome

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"We had agreed to meet and see what three people could do together," said Peter Madsen.

"If I thought the first woman was bad compared to SM, then the new one was much worse," says Peter Madsen.
Yet, he saw the woman and planned the triangle.
"I'd rather be boring in such a situation, because it's not me that's so bad," says Peter Madsen.
"I do not think, for example, that something should be done sexually on the bottom of the ocean, I'm a bit more serious," says Peter Madsen.

Peter Madsen now tells the woman at one point to record a video in the laboratory.
"Then she asks what the wildest thing I have done is," says Peter Madsen.
"When I answered, she said it would be even more wild," says Peter Madsen.​

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The lawyer now touches on the text that Peter Madsen sends to the woman, where he mentions spiking and a knife.
The SMS was sent a few days before the trip with Kim Wall. According to Peter Madsen, it is written in fun because the woman asked to be scared.

Betina Hald Engmark is now returning to Peter Madsen's wife. They are still together in August last year. Peter Madsen last sees his wife on the morning of August 10th.
- Can you remember what you're doing that day?
"I start receiving my interns and put them on, so I'm online, there's an interview with a film team, and I'm free," says Peter Madsen.

- Then it's the phone calling with a Wired journalist. And I think that sounds good, so we agree to meet, says Peter Madsen.​

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- What are you buying when you're down and shopping, asks the lawyer?
- Cinnamon cakes and water, says Peter Madsen, who explains that glands are doing well and are doing well if you want to sail a lot with the submarine.
He planned on that day to sail out with his girlfriend the following day. Therefore he is shopping, he explains.​

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The lawyer now asks for the film team that was in the laboratory August 10 last year.
- Are you going to talk to them all the time?
"No, but I would like to service them," says Peter Madsen. He also tells him that he receives visits by some students from DTU on the 10th of August, who interview him in connection with their studies.

"We also have to reverse the economic situation. Were there any projects during launch last August?
- Yes, it was there. It was never a profit, because every time there was money, we used it on the second, says Peter Madsen.
"But did any projects go on?" Asks the lawyer.
"I had a Norwegian project, and there was a very very mysterious project from Spain," says Peter Madsen.

Peter Madsen now tells of a trip to Barcelona, where he meets a rich man who wants him to build a kind of 'super nautilus'.
"He is staying in a very nice hotel, and I explain how expensive it will be," says Peter Madsen, who says that the man brought two security guards.
"It's a pretty exciting situation. It was a $ 22 million project, he says.

So you were not broke, asks Betina Hald Engmark?
- Not at all. We always found a solution. Then there were some who needed a machine that could make smoke rings or something else, says Peter Madsen.
He explains that he made accounts once a week, but that was not particularly careful.​

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Peter Madsen tells now and one of his collaborators who helped him keep track of the projects and the economy.
"He was fantastic," says Peter Madsen, slipping a string of names on Danish companies with whom he had projects.
"Now you are going to lecture for Novoordic, now it's Maersk," says Peter Madsen.

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Betina Hald Engmark again rounds the hard drives that the police have confiscated in connection with the search of the laboratory.
Peter Madsen explains that a number of them originate from his time in Copenhagen Suborbitals.
- Many of them did not work. But I also have not much IT competence, says Peter Madsen.
- So you have not been able to access them since you left CS, asks the lawyer.
- No, I have not. I have not known what was on them either, says Peter Madsen.


Ooooh, I feel bad for my friend now!!





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Now the lawyer asks for the contents of the submarine.
"The police have talked a lot about this water hose that's on board. Do you remember when it comes to the submarine?
"No, not exactly, but it's the week when it all happens," says Peter Madsen.

- It was common for it to be there. There should be cleaning on that week at Nautilus, says Peter Madsen.

- How does the cleaning take place, asks the lawyer.
"It's a little embarrassing, because I'm not in for the cleaning," says Peter Madsen, saying that there had been an oil spill to be cleaned.

"Did your interns know about the water hose?", Asks the lawyer.
- We had not talked about it.
- What about the pump that the police find?
"It is used to provide cooling water to the tank," says Peter Madsen.
"It was a pump from Haraldnyborg, which could squeeze water in to cool the machines," says Peter Madsen.

The lawyer now asks for the small iron pipes found in the submarine, and also found on the Kim Wall body parts.
- They were cut in the lab because they were used for the launch ramp we were supposed to do. It was the trainee who was to cut them, but he cut some, which is a bit too long and instead of throwing them out, I think I can use them for something else, says Peter Madsen​

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