Desiree says Terri had “Extreme hatred for Kyron"

[shorty42404]

Was it ever confirmed who Terri wrote the email to?

 

[ami]

ibm

"Browse through the Horman family pictures--there are plenty of "actions" that show a clean home, well-dressed and clean children, happy children, *fun* times, hugs and affection...it's all there. MOO"

To clarify, this is my original post (I don't know how to double-quote)--I was not referring to "posed" family pictures...

Of course there are. As there are of so many of the missing/murdered children that have been in the news lately. Sad, isn't it, that so often people/parents don't purposely show others their capability of violence or evil until it's too late to help the victims.

As I said in a previous post, it's often telling to see a picture taken of someone unaware in a stressful moment, perhaps reacting in a way that is odd or out of place. Since as far as I can tell, Terri didn't post many pictures of stressful moments in which she was caught unaware on Facebook, we have the news shots and videos to go on.

I'm also interested to know who received the email with words that could be interpreted as hatred for Kyron. We haven't had a news leak of info in a while. I hope if LE cracked down on them now it's a good sign.

 

[Jack]

I highly doubt TH had an extreme hatred for Kyron. An extreme hatred would certainly have been noticed by, at the very least, his father. So until I see Kaine H on television saying that he knew his wife hated his child but elected to ignore it I will discount that statement as extreme pain manifesting itself into misguided hindsight.

IMO, if TH had an extreme hatred for Kyron she wouldn't have taken care of him at all. There wouldn't be hundreds of happy smiling photos, she wouldn't have volunteered at his school. In short, she might have tolerated him if she merely disliked him but an extreme hatred would have been evident in many many ways.

 

[Jo in Calif]

I highly doubt TH had an extreme hatred for Kyron. An extreme hatred would certainly have been noticed by, at the very least, his father. So until I see Kaine H on television saying that he knew his wife hated his child but elected to ignore it I will discount that statement as extreme pain manifesting itself into misguided hindsight.

IMO, if TH had an extreme hatred for Kyron she wouldn't have taken care of him at all. There wouldn't be hundreds of happy smiling photos, she wouldn't have volunteered at his school. In short, she might have tolerated him if she merely disliked him but an extreme hatred would have been evident in many many ways.

There are times when actions don't speak louder than words.
It appeared as though she voiced her true feelings in her emails to someone.

 

[Kimmer]

I can speak from my personal experience that there are thousands of my childhood photo's where I appear to be a very happy child with a great childhood...And I can also let you know that what went on behind closed doors was a totally different story I have went thru 8 years of therapy to try and deal with my childhood, I can finally say that I am no longer a victim but instead I am a survivor, Even my own best friend I had all the way thru graduation had no idea what all was going on in my house, So I look at all of the photos as a window dressing of what some want the family to look like, a perfect example of this is the Casey Anthony family when you peel back what they want the public to see what you really see is dysfunction junction, So I certainly feel that Kryon very well may have been living a living hell when he was alone with TH and then it may have been a different picture when Kaine was around and when Kryon threatened to tell what she was likely doing to him and baby K well that is when it was very dangerous for Kryon.

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

I can speak from my personal experience that there are thousands of my childhood photo's where I appear to be a very happy child with a great childhood...And I can also let you know that what went on behind closed doors was a totally different story I have went thru 8 years of therapy to try and deal with my childhood, I can finally say that I am no longer a victim but instead I am a survivor, Even my own best friend I had all the way thru graduation had no idea what all was going on in my house, So I look at all of the photos as a window dressing of what some want the family to look like, a perfect example of this is the Casey Anthony family when you peel back what they want the public to see what you really see is dysfunction junction, So I certainly feel that Kryon very well may have been living a living hell when he was alone with TH and then it may have been a different picture when Kaine was around and when Kryon threatened to tell what she was likely doing to him and baby K well that is when it was very dangerous for Kryon.

That's what has bothered me for a long while - I'm afraid that we will find out that Kyron was mistreated by TH whenever KH was not around. I have suspected that since the beginning and it hurts to think about the possibilities.

(Congrats Kimmer on surviving the rotten childhood. I'm glad you're here with us and that much stronger.)

 

[krowdkat]

Well, if the MFH plot against Kaine is true, Terri had an extreme hatred for her husband, too.

Kaine apparently wasn't aware of how much Terri loathed him either.

IMO, Terri is a master of disguise and hid her "extreme hatred" for those she lived with very well. I think she did an excellent job of pretending to be the good wife and stepmom all so people wouldn't actually see who she really is. JMO

 

[txsvicki]

I've said all along that Kyron was being mistreated by having to sleep so many hours, not get up til someone came to get him, and with the daily behavior chart thing. Kaine has verified that Terri cooked up all sorts of problems with the three kids then took credit for solving them. IMO, that's also sort of like Munchausen's in a way. Also, I know some said Oregon is really laid back about dressing, but IMO the boys weren't well dressed and didn't have good haircuts. Almost like they were doing their own clothes or Kaine was being forced into getting the laundry done and not having much money to spend on haircuts and nice T shirts. This is probably only the tip of the iceberg as to the dysfunction going on before Kyron went missing.

 

[LillyRush]

Does anyone know anyone who takes pictures of themselves or others under stressful/upsetting situations and then on top of that posts them online? I mean....really? That would be extremely unusual, for Terri or any average person posting your typical family pics on a social forum like facebook. I can't think of anyone who would do that, exceptions being maybe for people who work in the media putting together some type of documentary or investigative journalism project.

 

[Kimmer]

Does anyone know anyone who takes pictures of themselves or others under stressful/upsetting situations and then on top of that posts them online? I mean....really? That would be extremely unusual, for Terri or any average person posting your typical family pics on a social forum like facebook. I can't think of anyone who would do that, exceptions being maybe for people who work in the media putting together some type of documentary or investigative journalism project.

If you are trying to once again trying to make it look like all is great in your family then YES just ask CA about some of her family photos.

 

[miabellamoure]

I just saw Desiree on HLN, and I feel like crying. Shes wrapping presents for people to raise awareness about her child and raise money to search. Totally heartbreaking. How can anyone have such extreme hatred for that precious little boy. Devastating.

I felt the same way seeing Desiree wrapping for others at a time of year that she should be able to wrap Kyron's Christmas gifts...yes, it is heartbreaking.

And...all the while Terri can't lift a finger to search or even open her mouth to confess and end two parents misery and bring a little boy home to those who love him.

 

[LillyRush]

If you are trying to once again trying to make it look like all is great in your family then YES just ask CA about some of her family photos.

No, that is not what I meant at all. I am talking about pictures that portray people in situations under stress or being abused. What is the likelihood that anyone, Terri or CA or anyone, would have put up pictures showing abuse? Not very likely. What I am trying to say is no matter if someone is trying to hide something or not, your average person (sociopath or not) is going to post shiny, happy pictures of their family. It is nearly impossible to determine that everything posted by a person is too perfect or happy, when that is the expected norm and anyone posting pics indicating abuse would (I hope) have been reported and investigated.

Like I asked, does anyone know anyone who posts stressful or abusive photos of their family online or anywhere? Probably not. So, I am agreeing with you about the part that pictures don't say everything. But, I am also saying that unless someone was certifiably insane, they would not drift far from the expected norm that their family pictures should look happy, functional, etc. I was referring to responses that seemed to be shocked that Terri posted nice pictures of Kyron online...I mean, what else would she have done? I don't believe she's insane, so obviously she would have followed the expected behavior.

 

[Jack]

There are times when actions don't speak louder than words.
It appeared as though she voiced her true feelings in her emails to someone.

My point is that if there were truly an 'extreme' hatred of Kyron on there wouldn't be any pictures. How many of you go around taking pictures of the people places or things you hate? If you had an extreme hatred for someone would you bother with them at all? I wouldn't. I wouldn't fill photo albums with pictures of the object of my hatred, I wouldn't volunteer at his school, I wouldn't help him with projects, I wouldn't be a major part of that person's life. So again I'll say IMO the words 'extreme hatred' is an exaggeration.

 

[txsvicki]

But, Kaine says that Terri is a master of manipulation, deception, and misdirection who was living a secret life. She was thought of as an okay Mom, teacher, wife, etc. Even if she hated that life she might still post pics like other women do. Also, she was always sending Desiree messages. It would have seemed odd if she never took any pics of Kyron or included him on fb. If she has personality disorders like Kaine believes she could have hated Kyron one day then loved him the next.

 

[ami]

My point is that if there were truly an 'extreme' hatred of Kyron on there wouldn't be any pictures. How many of you go around taking pictures of the people places or things you hate? If you had an extreme hatred for someone would you bother with them at all? I wouldn't. I wouldn't fill photo albums with pictures of the object of my hatred, I wouldn't volunteer at his school, I wouldn't help him with projects, I wouldn't be a major part of that person's life. So again I'll say IMO the words 'extreme hatred' is an exaggeration.

Well then you would be acting in a way that a person acts only when they are comfortable with others seeing and knowing of their hatred. Does Terri strike you as a person who is comfortable being seen as a child hater?

From what we've seen from her writings on facebook versus the publicly available emails she wrote to her friends, Terri often lied. Terri often characterized her life in two contradictory ways, creating an illusion in one while negating that illusion in another. In one medium she was happily married to a wonderful man, while in another medium she was unhappily married to a controlling jerk - which was real and which illusion? Verbally she might paint the illusion that she was going for a drive because she missed her baby so much.... while actually we know she was sneaking out to a sext partner's house.

To me, that doesn't sound like someone who would openly express her hatred for her step son. To me that sounds like someone who would create an illusion for her audience while still acting on her real feelings.

 

[DreamyEye]

I agree with Ami. It also seems possible that Terri may have been in a certain amount of denial regarding her true feelings toward Kyron--and trying to sell herself on the idea that she could be a loving step mom, if she just pretended a little harder. Maybe that's the reason for so many happy-seeming pictures. It could have been a part of the sales pitch. Additionally, it seems possible that she could have said something pretty horrible about Kyron in an email--and then immediately convinced herself that it was a joke, she didn't mean it, she was just having a bad day.

 

[Lucid]

Well then you would be acting in a way that a person acts only when they are comfortable with others seeing and knowing of their hatred. Does Terri strike you as a person who is comfortable being seen as a child hater?

I agree completely. I don't see it as odd for Terri to hide her feeling towards Kyron, even, perhaps, to Kyron himself up until recently. She had it made, a stay at home mom, a beautiful house, a new car... She certainly wouldn't be eager to let her true feelings be known and lose it all.

How many people hate their bosses, their jobs, etc? They would never show it, though, and risk losing it. I know this example isn't as serious as alleged "extreme hatred" towards a child, but I find it completely normal for people to deal with their attitude and keep it to themselves, if they know whats best for them.

 

[Aedrys]

My point is that if there were truly an 'extreme' hatred of Kyron on there wouldn't be any pictures. How many of you go around taking pictures of the people places or things you hate? If you had an extreme hatred for someone would you bother with them at all? I wouldn't. I wouldn't fill photo albums with pictures of the object of my hatred, I wouldn't volunteer at his school, I wouldn't help him with projects, I wouldn't be a major part of that person's life. So again I'll say IMO the words 'extreme hatred' is an exaggeration.

Sure, she could have done that...and then lost Kaine. He would notice Terri not taking an interest whatsoever in his child and wonder why. It would cause fights, and ultimately, Terri would lose the life she was trying so hard to keep. No, keeping her pampered and perfect life meant keeping Kaine happy, and keeping Kaine happy meant showing an interest in and being involved in Kyron's life. I know this from a personal standpoint - I know that my husband, if he had to, would pick his daughter over me. My stepdaughter is number one in his life. Would I kill her to make my life better? Absolutely not. I love her and want to be a part of my life. But I also know where I stand in that family too, and it's okay with me.

So it's no wonder she kept her feelings to herself and a few chosen friends or friend (whoever she sent the emails to, which could be one person or multiple people). There's just no way she could have Kaine find out that she hated his child. He's not going to choose Terri over his own son and she knew that. Blood is thicker than water. Look how fast he got away from her after Kyron went missing. He's definitely chosen Kyron over Terri for the last six months.

So yes, it's entirely possible that Desiree is right and that Terri hated Kyron to the extreme. Terri kept that info hidden from Kaine and most other people until it became Kyron or her, and it was Kyron that paid the price for her extreme hatred of him.

 

[Tuba]

Kyron was also Terri's ticket into the relationship in the first place and into eventual marriage. Whenever she felt the slightest dissatisfaction or annoyance in that marriage, she turned and looked at the ticket that brought her into it.

 

[ThoughtFox]

My point is that if there were truly an 'extreme' hatred of Kyron on there wouldn't be any pictures. How many of you go around taking pictures of the people places or things you hate? If you had an extreme hatred for someone would you bother with them at all? I wouldn't. I wouldn't fill photo albums with pictures of the object of my hatred, I wouldn't volunteer at his school, I wouldn't help him with projects, I wouldn't be a major part of that person's life. So again I'll say IMO the words 'extreme hatred' is an exaggeration.

Terri had no choice but to do those things. Often she was the primary caretaker.

(forgive the following analogy of Kyron to an inanimate object, but I'm trying to make a point here)

To me, picture-taking is an easy and almost cold-hearted way to appear affectionate without doing anything at all. I can take a picture of any "object" and then upload it to Facebook with scarcely a thought.

I can take a picture of a rock in my yard and upload it to Facebook, but that wouldn't imply that I love the rock or that the rock is special to me.

It could just be that everyone else is taking pictures of rocks, or people expect pictures of rocks on special occasions.

Of course, I love my own special rock, but maybe on the off chance that my husband will check Facebook to look at pictures of his favorite rock, I decide to give him what he wants because it is easy and it takes no thought whatsoever.