*DEVELOPING*CO Shooting at Movie Theater #3

[winterrose]

But what IF IF IF he wanted to show the shrink that he is smarter then she is?

True, I think that's what he's wanting to show everyone. I heard on the news this morning about Caleb Medley and his wife Katie, victims of this shooting. Katie had her baby this morning and Caleb lost his eye as he was shot in the face. They were 15 feet from the exit, here's the story on a website set up... http://www.calebmedley.com/help So much emphasis on JH, I wanted to put in some info on how victims have had their lives changed forever.

 

[Waddles]

BBMIt can mean different thing. Not just one meaning. but I would venture to say - it is time to get her on meds when she is like that, and definitly do not challenge her keep her calm.
It must be very scary.

Thank you! Yes we try to pacify her and not go into her attacks at us but it's hard and it is scary and she never ever apologizes for the most evil craziest hateful things that no one should ever forgive anyone but we do as she's our sister/daughter. No one has dared ask her if she is still on meds -she was seeking psychiatric help at one time but never told us the diagnosis. I don't know what she thinks, I don't think she feels an ounce of love or compassion for anyone except her two very young sons, which I admit have seemed to calm her down somewhat -anyway off topic, thank you and I really feel for you as I imagine your daughter has put you through the works. fftopic:

 

[prima.facie]

i really hate it when people refuse to do their own research and purposely try and argue with others for whatever reason....

FACT is the brain is in control of human behavior.
FACT is a brain tumor or any other abnormaility can cause people to behave in ways that a person with an otherwise healthy brain would not behave.


http://www.abta.org/understanding-brain-tumors/symptoms/

People with brain tumors often suffer from:
Headaches
Seizures
Sensory (touch) and motor (movement control) loss
Deep venous thrombosis (DVT, or blood clot)
Hearing loss
Vision loss
Fatigue
Depression
Behavioral and cognitive (thinking) changes
Endocrine dysfunction (hormone/gland changes)

 

[songline]

Since apparently many others are as clueless regarding the latest batman movies as I am....

I knew the Joker was a very popular character however Heath Ledger's version of the Joker also seems to be honestly quite dark, creepy and psychotic especially compared to most other Batman characters I have seen portrayed in the old films. He doesn't look like a comic book character, he looks like a madman.

Heath Ledger's Joker: They're Coming To Take Me Away Haha! - YouTube​

Heath Ledger had said it was the hardest roll he ever did, and it disturbed him
much when he was rehearsing, and after the film too.
It took a lot to even get into character.

 

[Waddles]

True, I think that's what he's wanting to show everyone. I heard on the news this morning about Caleb Medley and his wife Katie, victims of this shooting. Katie had her baby this morning and Caleb lost his eye as he was shot in the face. They were 15 feet from the exit, here's the story on a website set up... http://www.calebmedley.com/help So much emphasis on JH, I wanted to put in some info on how victims have had their lives changed forever.

Thank you for this, I read an article in the daily mail earlier today saying Caleb's bills had amounted to 2 million so far but surely that can't be? that's an astronomical sum. It really doesn't seem right any of these poor victims would have to pay and be indebted for years considering the circumstances but that's another subject!

 

[Curious Me]

Please realize many people that have what you call bulging eyes are suffering from a Thyroid/Graves Disease condition. It does not mean they are going mentally ill, but most will suffer depression from this medical condition that has changed their appearance.

Brain Tumors with no headaches or other signs might be possible, I guess.

The guy's a mass killer now. That I do know.

 

[jjenny]

i really hate it when people refuse to do their own research and purposely try and argue with others for whatever reason....

FACT is the brain is in control of human behavior.
FACT is a brain tumor or any other abnormaility can cause people to behave in ways that a person with an otherwise healthy brain would not behave.


http://www.abta.org/understanding-brain-tumors/symptoms/

People with brain tumors often suffer from:
Headaches
Seizures
Sensory (touch) and motor (movement control) loss
Deep venous thrombosis (DVT, or blood clot)
Hearing loss
Vision loss
Fatigue
Depression
Behavioral and cognitive (thinking) changes
Endocrine dysfunction (hormone/gland changes)

Sorry, don't see murderous rampages on that list of yours.

 

[songline]

Thank you! Yes we try to pacify her and not go into her attacks at us but it's hard and it is scary and she never ever apologizes for the most evil craziest hateful things that no one should ever forgive anyone but we do as she's our sister/daughter. No one has dared ask her if she is still on meds -she was seeking psychiatric help at one time but never told us the diagnosis. I don't know what she thinks, I don't think she feels an ounce of love or compassion for anyone except her two very young sons, which I admit have seemed to calm her down somewhat -anyway off topic, thank you and I really feel for you as I imagine your daughter has put you through the works. fftopic:

There are organizations like NAMI (national association for MI)
See what is available in your City... go talk to someone.

sometime just taking their crap is not healthy for the rest of the family.
My daughter can be mean to me, but I tell her, that is not OK and when she wants to talk I am here.
OR I ask her what happend, can I do something to make her feel better, but not to tke it out on me.
sometimes she'll act worse.... but that is a cntrol move.
THEY DO Know more then we think. and enabling them is not good for them. But do not challenge,
and do not walk on egg shells. YOU NEED TOSEE SOMEONE.
That will help her and all of you best.

 

[prima.facie]

acknowledging the fact that a brain abnormality could be the cause of a person committing such a henious act is not defending his actions as ok but is acknowledging that the brain is complex and that people dont just commit acts because satan is in control of them (or whatever evil reason one wants to attach to the suspect)....

it also is not saying that that person should be able to walk the street again amongst everyone. it is applying a possibility to the reason such a heinous act could be committed by a human being....and if it is the reason, then it allows him to get proper treatment and study future case of brain abnormalities...

to completely deny it as a possibility shows me that one is not concerned with the facts of a case but more concerned with being..........right in their own opinion.

 

[prima.facie]

Sorry, don't see murderous rampages on that list of yours.

ok...so you are being purposely obtuse. now that we have that out of the way....

what causes a murderous rampage?

what?

anyone?

bueller? bueller?









AHAH!!! the answer is right there before our eyes!!!

Behavioral and cognitive (thinking)

so to sum up...

murderous rampage is a result of..............BEHAVIOR & CONGNITIVE THINKING

unless he was chipped by the government or a victim of MKULTRA....then thats a whole 'nother topic

 

[songline]

Sorry, don't see murderous rampages on that list of yours.

Just because it is not on the list does not mean that it is not one of the things that DO indeed happen.

They are all different.

 

[~n/t~]

Since apparently many others are as clueless regarding the latest batman movies as I am....

I knew the Joker was a very popular character however Heath Ledger's version of the Joker also seems to be honestly quite dark, creepy and psychotic especially compared to most other Batman characters I have seen portrayed in the old films. He doesn't look like a comic book character, he looks like a madman.

Heath Ledger's Joker: They're Coming To Take Me Away Haha! - YouTube​

Some attribute his death to the role. He apparently had sleepless nights and was tormented causing increase dosage of Ambien (??).....resulting in an overdose.

 

[Sonya610]

Thank you for this, I read an article in the daily mail earlier today saying Caleb's bills had amounted to 2 million so far but surely that can't be? that's an astronomical sum. It really doesn't seem right any of these poor victims would have to pay and be indebted for years considering the circumstances but that's another subject!

In this couples case I would expect he will get on SSI and Medicaid will cover his hospital bills. They don't appear to have any real assets (he works at Walmart, she was going to school to be a vet tech) so they can't be wiped out financially.

I don't see how a 2 mil bill could be racked up in less than a week either, they are probably estimating the total hospital costs and maybe rehab too.

 

[PAXIMUS]

Just because it is not on the list does not mean that it is not one of the things that DO indeed happen.

They are all different.

It is on the list, BEHAVIORAL AND COGNITIVE CHANGES.

 

[songline]

acknowledging the fact that a brain abnormality could be the cause of a person committing such a henious act is not defending his actions as ok but is acknowledging that the brain is complex and that people dont just commit acts because satan is in control of them (or whatever evil reason one wants to attach to the suspect)....

it also is not saying that that person should be able to walk the street again amongst everyone. it is applying a possibility to the reason such a heinous act could be committed by a human being....and if it is the reason, then it allows him to get proper treatment and study future case of brain abnormalities...

to completely deny it as a possibility shows me that one is not concerned with the facts of a case but more concerned with being..........right in their own opinion.

I AGREE.

Nowhere in your posts did you say he should be let free. LOL

EVEN MI people go to jail... some people just want to stick with monster. :waitasec:

 

[LinasK]

What if it turned out he has a brain tumor that made him act this way, NOT SAYING HE DOES, but would you have more compassion for him since it is a medical issue and has nothing to do with him being evil or a monster? Brain tumors can drive people literally insane depending how bad they are.

Nope! Because I can't believe that he would have that severe of a brain tumor, and not exhibit any physical symptoms which would make him see an MD, so I don't excuse his actions based on that! He alone, as an adult, is responsible for his own behavior- not everyone else in his life who "should've" seen his symptoms but didn't- mother, university, and everyone else included!

 

[jjenny]

It is on the list, BEHAVIORAL AND COGNITIVE CHANGES.

Since when do "behavioral and cognitive changes" equal "murderous rampage?" Frankly, I don't think this guy has a brain tumor, but I don't understand the idea that anyone with a brain tumor is not able to control their actions.

 

[CARIIS]

Depends on where the brain Tumor is. But yes it can change thing.

A lady I know well had one...
She demanded sex from her husband so much that he did not know what was going on. At first he liked it, but then it was way too much, he did not he have the time and energy. but was very very worried too.
So he made sure she had a thorough medical exam. and they found this brain tumor. Thank God it is out now and she is fine.
but now the husband asks the Doctor, couldn't you leave a small tumor in her head.. she went 380 on me. LOL
So again the tumors differ and their locations differ too.

TRUE STORY. LOL

Yeh its medical no diff than cancer /diabetes proven FACT its just no longer up for debate !

by studing the brain with MRI CAT SCAN AUTOPSIES

 

[songline]

It is on the list, BEHAVIORAL AND COGNITIVE CHANGES.

BUT the poster was looking for - murderous rampages :twocents:

 

[KMouse]

But they didnt get the notebook until NOW, so they could not do the math and add up the firearms and all of that. It is not easy to add this all up when only certain people saw certain things and were not privy to suspicious things others saw.

I meant had somebody read the notebook on the 12th if it did indeed arrive that day.