Did Casey want Caylee to be found fast?

[nancy botwin]

I think that she wanted the body to be found by LE before anyone realized Caylee was missing. I don't think she was necessarily planning on LE finding it accidentally, but I think she was planning something to make it turn up. I agree with the poster who said she was preparing to be a grieving mom, not a mother of a missing child. I think she had the beginning of a plan involving the carjacking theory but got scared of the smell and, heck, why lose a perfectly good car? After she dumped the body, I think the very weak "plan" was to avoid her family and have fun until the body was found. I think she was planning to then blame CA... "if you had not been so mean to me and forced me to take a break from you, I would not have had to leave Caylee with the [imaginary] nanny and she would be still be here! <sniff, sniff>" :boohoo:

However, as time went on, I think she had to realize that at least her mom was not going to buy the fact that the [imaginary] nanny ran off with her. And I *also* think that, in a manner similar to other people I know who live in their own little world where they can do no wrong, KC pulled a Scarlett O'Hara and decided to think about it tomorrow... again and again... much easier to continue partying and having fun than to do anything that would make the day when she had to be a grieving mom come sooner. In other words, she could have called in the anonymous tip two weeks after Caylee's death, but then she knew she would be missing the upcoming 4th of July party with the required funeral planning and mourning, so she held off another day... and another, and another, until her mom forced the issue. I agree that if CA had not been as interested, we still might not know that Caylee ever was gone.

After the 911 calls, I don't think she wanted the body found. I think she was worried that her hastily made up story involving Sawgrass and the [imaginary] nanny were not holding up that well and she hoped that the more time Caylee spent .... ok I can't really type the word I am thinking of... I think she hoped that, worst case, there would be less evidence pointing to her and best case, with no body, there would be no crime. :shakehead:

THEN, I think she did want Lee (and possibly GA) to find and move the body. I had a weird feeling when we heard those jailhouse tapes that she seemed to be emphasizing how little she could do from inside. At first because my heart was saying, "Well you weren't doing jack when you were out, so I can't imagine that you being in is such a big loss to the investigation." But then I really started thinking that she sounded like she was trying to get LA and GA to DO something, beyond what they were already doing... which was looking for the alive Caylee. So, if she didn't have any idea where Caylee was taken by the [imaginary] nanny, looking for the alive Caylee would be really all she needed them to do and help with. They were doing that. But if she did kill and hide Caylee, what could she possibly be trying to get them to do? She occasionally mentions that they should be looking for the [imaginary] nanny, and then there are all these other weird references. After pondering that, I think she was trying to get them to move the body to somewhere more secure. I think she realized that her story is clearly being checked far more thoroughly than she ever imagined it would be and LE finding the body so near her house (and probably with more evidence linking her to the crime - JB has probably filled her in on exactly what sorts of fibers and hairs and bits of DNA that they could find and analyze and use against her) would just add fuel to the fire. I think she *did* want it found, but not by LE. And I think it is a ridiculous assumption on her part that GA or LA, if they had understood her "clues", would have actually done what she asked. If either of them had had to go find this sweet baby in the woods and move her somewhere no one would ever find her, well, I just can't imagine that their allegiance to KC would extend that far. Luckily we don't have to find out.

So I voted "other" , meaning yes, then no, then yes.

BTW, just wanted to note that I am a mostly lurker in this forum, because most of my reading time is at work.... :iamashamed0005:and by the time I can get home to post the conversation has moved on... but I truly appreciate everyone here who posts and keeps the discussions going. I find myself coming here to get my news... this is where the facts are. :blowkiss:

Very good post!! I agree! I think Casey had a lot of half-cocked plans and, as you very aptly pointed out, a major case of Scarlett O'Hara syndrome.

I think your explanation also helps explain why some of Casey's behavior seemed so odd:
The 31 days-- hey, it wasn't Casey's fault no one found Caylee's body sooner-- she was ready and once Caylee was found, it would be like the director calling ACTION on the set...
The conspicuous partying and appearing in photos-- hey, Casey told you the nanny had taken Caylee to SeaWorld just yesterday, Casey couldn't have known the nanny would hurt Caylee-- Casey was just carrying on like it was any other day because Casey really thought it was!
Never telling boyfriend or friends Caylee was missing--hey, remember again about how Casey set it up so Caylee would be having a great time at the beach and Disney World-- Casey just thought her daughter was having a beautiful summer of adventure-- she couldn't have known what the evil nanny would do!

I think Casey thought that she could just have fun and then one day she'd get that call saying Caylee had been found. I think she thought everyone would be busy consoling her and no one would question her story. And if they did, she had been telling her friends every day about some new and exciting place Caylee went with Zanny. Casey clearly had NO idea what LE had in store for her. I actually listen to the Universal Studios interview with some frequency because it makes me feel a small sense of satisfaction to hear the detectives take her to task and yell at her.

I wonder about whether Casey was sending George or Lee clues about moving the body-- I'm not certain exactly WHAT was going on there.

But I agree that Casey's objectives did seem to change as this horrible saga unfolded.

 

[pregodego2]

I can't say i think she wanted her to be found, but she prepared for it. I think she eventually expected her to be...then maybe became a bit cocky when she wasn't right away.

IIRC, casey mentions in a jailhouse visit to cindy that the nanny has a key...set up for the location being close to the A home perhaps?

 

[live2]

Hearing her say to Lee "to look in places familiar to US, to our FAMILY" would be about as blatant as she could be without saying, "hey, yeah, I stashed her in the woods we use to hang out in". Based on that, I do think she wished Lee would have found her before LE in hopes that he'd have covered it up for her.

And the "blackjack" - any chance that was a key word to clue him into something they use to play or do in that location? There was LOTS of questioning about that item. Repeatedly.

Wonders if it's worth relistening to Lee's tapes now that Kaylee's been found.

 

[pregodego2]

Hearing her say to Lee "to look in places familiar to US, to our FAMILY" would be about as blatant as she could be without saying, "hey, yeah, I stashed her in the woods we use to hang out in". Based on that, I do think she wished Lee would have found her before LE in hopes that he'd have covered it up for her.

And the "blackjack" - any chance that was a key word to clue him into something they use to play or do in that location? There was LOTS of questioning about that item. Repeatedly.

Wonders if it's worth relistening to Lee's tapes now that Kaylee's been found.

This is a great thought - however, there really WAS a blackjack phone bought by casey...so i'm not sure if it is a coincidence. Maybe she purposely bought a blackjack because it was a place they played blackjack as kids and casey seems "symbolic". hmm maybe the BJ was found IN the bag and that was the "aha!" item LE found.

 

[live2]

This is a great thought - however, there really WAS a blackjack phone bought by casey...so i'm not sure if it is a coincidence. Maybe she purposely bought a blackjack because it was a place they played blackjack as kids and casey seems "symbolic". hmm maybe the BJ was found IN the bag and that was the "aha!" item LE found.

This story moves so fast when there is movement. I didn't ever see confirmation of her buying the blackjack, so never knew it was confirmed. Do you have a link by any chance? Can't see how she bought it new, and didn't take it back if it was having such "battery charging" issues. Oh, and it's way to convenient in her story to say... oppps, that was on my blackjack!

But if it is truly confirmed as being purchased, that still doesn't change her chilling statements of "search places close to US, to our FAMILY"... now that in hind sight was one of the biggest clues she ever gave beyond, "my mother is going to be so angry with me!".

 

[kline]

No, if she had really wanted to play the kidnapping story from the beginning imo she would have actually reported that her daughter was missing! If she had managed to slither away before her mother found her and demanded answers, none of us would know a thing about Caylee missing. She would have spun a tale about her and Caylee moving away and keeping her away from the family. For some reason she did not leave but I think she was planning to, just didn't do it quick enough.
Casey thinks she is so smart and the truth is, she did no thinking in this!

VB

100% correct IMHO.
I think the kidnapping nonsense was invented on the spot when Cindy put the screws to her.
She wanted to disappear and reappear somewhere else sans child while the Anthony's assumed she had taken Caylee and herself away.

 

[Sammiejam]

I think that she wanted the body to be found by LE before anyone realized Caylee was missing. I don't think she was necessarily planning on LE finding it accidentally, but I think she was planning something to make it turn up. I agree with the poster who said she was preparing to be a grieving mom, not a mother of a missing child. I think she had the beginning of a plan involving the carjacking theory but got scared of the smell and, heck, why lose a perfectly good car? After she dumped the body, I think the very weak "plan" was to avoid her family and have fun until the body was found. I think she was planning to then blame CA... "if you had not been so mean to me and forced me to take a break from you, I would not have had to leave Caylee with the [imaginary] nanny and she would be still be here! <sniff, sniff>" :boohoo:

However, as time went on, I think she had to realize that at least her mom was not going to buy the fact that the [imaginary] nanny ran off with her. And I *also* think that, in a manner similar to other people I know who live in their own little world where they can do no wrong, KC pulled a Scarlett O'Hara and decided to think about it tomorrow... again and again... much easier to continue partying and having fun than to do anything that would make the day when she had to be a grieving mom come sooner. In other words, she could have called in the anonymous tip two weeks after Caylee's death, but then she knew she would be missing the upcoming 4th of July party with the required funeral planning and mourning, so she held off another day... and another, and another, until her mom forced the issue. I agree that if CA had not been as interested, we still might not know that Caylee ever was gone.

After the 911 calls, I don't think she wanted the body found. I think she was worried that her hastily made up story involving Sawgrass and the [imaginary] nanny were not holding up that well and she hoped that the more time Caylee spent .... ok I can't really type the word I am thinking of... I think she hoped that, worst case, there would be less evidence pointing to her and best case, with no body, there would be no crime. :shakehead:

THEN, I think she did want Lee (and possibly GA) to find and move the body. I had a weird feeling when we heard those jailhouse tapes that she seemed to be emphasizing how little she could do from inside. At first because my heart was saying, "Well you weren't doing jack when you were out, so I can't imagine that you being in is such a big loss to the investigation." But then I really started thinking that she sounded like she was trying to get LA and GA to DO something, beyond what they were already doing... which was looking for the alive Caylee. So, if she didn't have any idea where Caylee was taken by the [imaginary] nanny, looking for the alive Caylee would be really all she needed them to do and help with. They were doing that. But if she did kill and hide Caylee, what could she possibly be trying to get them to do? She occasionally mentions that they should be looking for the [imaginary] nanny, and then there are all these other weird references. After pondering that, I think she was trying to get them to move the body to somewhere more secure. I think she realized that her story is clearly being checked far more thoroughly than she ever imagined it would be and LE finding the body so near her house (and probably with more evidence linking her to the crime - JB has probably filled her in on exactly what sorts of fibers and hairs and bits of DNA that they could find and analyze and use against her) would just add fuel to the fire. I think she *did* want it found, but not by LE. And I think it is a ridiculous assumption on her part that GA or LA, if they had understood her "clues", would have actually done what she asked. If either of them had had to go find this sweet baby in the woods and move her somewhere no one would ever find her, well, I just can't imagine that their allegiance to KC would extend that far. Luckily we don't have to find out.

So I voted "other" , meaning yes, then no, then yes.

BTW, just wanted to note that I am a mostly lurker in this forum, because most of my reading time is at work.... :iamashamed0005:and by the time I can get home to post the conversation has moved on... but I truly appreciate everyone here who posts and keeps the discussions going. I find myself coming here to get my news... this is where the facts are. :blowkiss:

"Very good post!! I agree! I think Casey had a lot of half-cocked plans and, as you very aptly pointed out, a major case of Scarlett O'Hara syndrome.

I think your explanation also helps explain why some of Casey's behavior seemed so odd:
The 31 days-- hey, it wasn't Casey's fault no one found Caylee's body sooner-- she was ready and once Caylee was found, it would be like the director calling ACTION on the set...
The conspicuous partying and appearing in photos-- hey, Casey told you the nanny had taken Caylee to SeaWorld just yesterday, Casey couldn't have known the nanny would hurt Caylee-- Casey was just carrying on like it was any other day because Casey really thought it was!
Never telling boyfriend or friends Caylee was missing--hey, remember again about how Casey set it up so Caylee would be having a great time at the beach and Disney World-- Casey just thought her daughter was having a beautiful summer of adventure-- she couldn't have known what the evil nanny would do!

I think Casey thought that she could just have fun and then one day she'd get that call saying Caylee had been found. I think she thought everyone would be busy consoling her and no one would question her story. And if they did, she had been telling her friends every day about some new and exciting place Caylee went with Zanny. Casey clearly had NO idea what LE had in store for her. I actually listen to the Universal Studios interview with some frequency because it makes me feel a small sense of satisfaction to hear the detectives take her to task and yell at her.

I wonder about whether Casey was sending George or Lee clues about moving the body-- I'm not certain exactly WHAT was going on there.

But I agree that Casey's objectives did seem to change as this horrible saga unfolded. Nancy Botwin's post (gotta learn how to double quote)

Gals, ITA with both of you. She was lazy, stupid and sloppy. Everything both of you said is what I have been thinking as well. :blowkiss:

 

[nancy botwin]

Thanks for answering. Do we think that KC teddy bear-noose message was a response to CA 's message to KC on July 3? If it was, KC pretty much left CA and the world a big hint of a confession.

As far as I know, there isn't any evidence that Casey publicly displayed the teddy bear/noose image. The computer forensics report only indicated that the image was saved onto Casey's computer. The image was saved as girl.jpg and, like Jolyanna said, it was first saved on July 8. It was last accessed on July 10. Girl.jpg comports with an overall trend in Casey's image cache-- Casey seems particularly drawn to graphics and images which pair the childish or whimsical with profoundly negative or dismal messages...

IMO, girl.jpg wasn't used to convey a message to another person-- instead, I think Casey was drawn to the image because it demonstrated a sort of convenient riddle of rationalization:

Why do people(Casey) take Caylee away from people?
To show people(Cindy) that taking Caylee away is wrong.

Why do people(Casey) ruin another's (Caylee's) life?
To show people(Cindy/the world??) that ruining another's(Casey's) life is wrong.

It's interesting that the computer forensics report next chose to highlight this image (uploaded the day after Casey last accessed girl.jpg):

It's like with girl.jpg, the part of Casey can and does endeavor to distinguish right from wrong (the contemplative child) is thinking "ok, so this is why I did what I did-- and it's not that bad because this basically happened to me and happens like all the time on a larger scale-- like, even the govt. teaches people lessons in a backwards sort of way..."

And then the next day, the part of Casey that knows right vs. wrong but simply doesn't care seizes upon the Tupac (Machiavelli-enthusiast rap icon) quote because she's done thinking about why this all happened and realizes she should just move on.


The timeline of apparent interaction between Casey and Cindy vs. documented computer activity is interesting. Casey actually wrote her infamous "Diary of Days" blog entry before Cindy posted the "Caylee Is Missing" blog entry.

July 2 at 10:42 am: Casey composes the "Diary of Days" into a word document and saves it onto her computer shortly before leaving to get her Bella Vita tattoo that afternoon.
July 3 at 8:44 pm: Cindy publishes "Caylee is Missing" onto her myspace blog .
July 7 at 6:50 pm: Casey actually publishes "Diary of Days" onto her myspace blog.
July 8 at 10:15 pm: Casey saves girl.jpg onto her computer.
July 10 at 9:41: Casey last accesses girl.jpg.
July 11 at 2:21 pm: Casey saves the Tupac/"just move on" quote onto her computer.
July 14 at 1:26: Casey last accesses Tupac/"just move on" quote.
July 15 around 9 am: Chris S. reports seeing Casey jogging along Chickasaw (many speculate near the area where the remains were ultimately recovered)
July 15 around 2 pm: Casey makes another appt. at the tattoo parlor-- the appt is for Casey and an unnamed "friend."
July 15 around 4 pm: Casey revisits her "Diary of Days" blog entry.
Within hours, Cindy is knocking on Tony's door-->confrontation, 911-call, arrest, etc.

 

[Anais]

As far as I know, there isn't any evidence that Casey publicly displayed the teddy bear/noose image. The computer forensics report only indicated that the image was saved onto Casey's computer. The image was saved as girl.jpg and, like Jolyanna said, it was first saved on July 8. It was last accessed on July 10. Girl.jpg comports with an overall trend in Casey's image cache-- Casey seems particularly drawn to graphics and images which pair the childish or whimsical with profoundly negative or dismal messages...

IMO, girl.jpg wasn't used to convey a message to another person-- instead, I think Casey was drawn to the image because it demonstrated a sort of convenient riddle of rationalization:

Why do people(Casey) take Caylee away from people?
To show people(Cindy) that taking Caylee away is wrong.

Why do people(Casey) ruin another's (Caylee's) life?
To show people(Cindy/the world??) that ruining another's(Casey's) life is wrong.

It's interesting that the computer forensics report next chose to highlight this image (uploaded the day after Casey last accessed girl.jpg):

It's like with girl.jpg, the part of Casey can and does endeavor to distinguish right from wrong (the contemplative child) is thinking "ok, so this is why I did what I did-- and it's not that bad because this basically happened to me and happens like all the time on a larger scale-- like, even the govt. teaches people lessons in a backwards sort of way..."

And then the next day, the part of Casey that knows right vs. wrong but simply doesn't care seizes upon the Tupac (Machiavelli-enthusiast rap icon) quote because she's done thinking about why this all happened and realizes she should just move on.

The timeline of apparent interaction between Casey and Cindy vs. documented computer activity is interesting. Casey actually wrote her infamous "Diary of Days" blog entry before Cindy posted the "Caylee Is Missing" blog entry.

Nancy I snipped for space respectfully, hope it is okay with you! You make some excellent points. I agree with you in that casey just wanted to move on with life. Her attitude is what's done is what's done and just deal with it another day. I truly don't think she expected momma to come knocking on the door in search of her and Caylee. I also think that the state prosecutor will use those myspace entires as evidence as it is strong imo. People tend to forget how damning the totality of the evidence is even if it is circumstantial. The way that I read Cindy's entry if I were a juror it would lean me towards motive.

I agree also that Casey wanted Caylee's body found early on and voted other. She loves and craves attention. She wanted to be the grieving mommy and then everyone would be focused on her and her alone! During her jailhouse visits she is very clearly sending the message imo to keep the search local and close to home, to places that are "familiar" to her and the family. IMO once Caylee was found it all made perect sense to me why she said what she did to GA and LA!

Just because she visited missingkids websites doesn't necessarily mean that she was looking for stories of children who'd been returned alive, as sad and sick as it is!

 

[DawnTCB]

Just because she visited missingkids websites doesn't necessarily mean that she was lloking for stories of children who'd been returned alive, as sad and sick as it is!

Oh you are right about that, I am sure! I have always thought she looked for missing (as opposed to "murdered") kids to look for tips on how avoid getting caught.

The one thing that I don't think is, I don't think she ever planned to run off forever. Sometimes that comes up as a theory and I just don't think it fits her personality. Someone with no work experience and a long history of mooching of the kindness of friends would not have planned to dump them all over something so minor as this. I think she may have wanted Cindy to *think* she ran off in a huff and might never return... and clearly Cindy's "caylee is missing" post certainly sounds like she thinks the two of them might never come back... but I can't imagine KC really thought about pulling up all her stakes and disappearing forever. I really think the plan (during the first 31 days) hinged on eventually someone finding the body and then KC would be forgiven and CA and GA would be so wrapped up in their grief they would forget the argument that caused KC to leave in a huff.

On somewhat of a tangent, something occurred to me a couple of weeks ago when someone posted on another thread about how much media attention this case was getting compared to other missing/murdered children. I was thinking how KC was definitely not expecting the huge following of this case:

• the myspace tributes
• people writing songs about Caylee
• reporters camped in front of the parents' house
• the family's every move on webcam
• her text messages dissected by thousands of people

I don't think she ever imagined that Caylee would be "missing" for any length of time. In truth, if Caylee had been found before CA came calling, this case might have been a minor local story, and I think that was what KC was banking on. The "fatal flaw" in her plan was that she put off someone finding the body too long so she could have a bit more fun before the grieving. And once the media circus began it was a far bigger monster than even KC could control.

 

[ecs5298]

I voted "Other". I don't think Casey thinks that far ahead. It was a convenient place to dump the body at the time she needed to dump the body.

 

[kageykaren]

Nancy Botwin, Great entry for understanding her mindset again. Thanks for working so hard for me. All of those entries give us a window into her soul.

 

[Coley]

I'm SO torn on this one it's not even funny. I just don't know what goes on in that head of hers.

 

[sweetmop]

No she never planned on Caylee being found.
She hadn't spoken a word of truth about Caylee, Caylee was always with the nanny, for those 31 days, to anyone that mentioned Caylee.
Casey was just evil and deluded enough to believe that her little problem would just all blow over and she'd never have to account for Caylee.
Somewhere along the way her plans were messed up.

 

[TxRose]

I voted "Other". I don't think Casey thinks that far ahead. It was a convenient place to dump the body at the time she needed to dump the body.

I still stick with "no"...but I agree with you that she doesn't think that far ahead. As a comfortable liar - she does seem to be pretty quick on her feet...so I think she relies on that, rather than on substantial long-term planning! Other than perhaps "thinking" about doing something to Caylee and performing those computer searches....I think when she did it that it was a sudden decision she hadn't planned out in detail. She seemed to scramble for the next 30 days trying to avoid her parents. Her cover story was full of alot of holes that were easily de-bunked. The dumping spot was not well thought out...and she may have even left clear signs at the scene. Not great planning Casey. Thank goodness or she might not have been arrested.

 

[MaryBelle]

I voted 'other' because there was no option for 'she just plain didn't care' and also because I don't think she dumped her there by the road - I think she probably buried her in a shallow grave (she didn't work hard at it) farther into the woods and closer to the house. Later the flood waters uncovered her and she floated toward the edge of the waters which happened to be near the road. (Maybe there was divine help such as Lacy must have had.)

Jail officials said Casey looked dismayed when told about the remains. I bet she was dismayed! She hadn't thought that the bagged and taped body could come up out of the ground deep in the woods and be found near a well traveled street!

I don't think Casey ever truely bonded with her daughter. She was just too selfish. Her life was an act (as in a lie) since Caylee's birth because she reckoned that she was expected to love her child.

I also think that Cindy knew that Casey had never bonded with Caylee and this was of great concern to her. Cindy all along was trying to get Casey to follow her example with Caylee. All the things that Cindy has said about Casey being a loving mother are just how Cindy 'wishes' it had been. Cindy was just never able to acknowledge that her daughter was NOT what she wanted her to be. I feel that Cindy finally gave her an ultimatum to start acting like a responsible parent and that's when Casey chose to get rid of the little angel that she considered nothing more than an obstacle in her selfish immoral life.

She hauled her around in the trunk for a few days trying to decide where to put her then buried her only because she was smelling up her car. The only thing on her mind was getting back to Tony. There was no plan, no conspiracy - nothing but an impulsive, selfish spoiled girl.

One more thing - I feel that the reason G & C have not visited Casey since she went back to jail the last time (including after the remains were confirmed) is because they may have told her before they took her away that she would not see them again until she sent word that she was ready to tell them the WHOLE truth. She hasn't and they are trying to stick to that no matter how hard it is. There is just no way that they don't know that she was lieing.

We have been shown time and time again that evil truely does exist in the world. The Bible tells us to pray "lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil." Evil sees opportunity in a selfish person like Casey and grabs it.


Thank you for letting me speak. Beautiful little Caylee will celebrate Christmas with the angels. Of that I have no doubt.

MaryBelle

 

[Meagain]

Surprised there are so many "no" votes. wow

 

[Chezhire]

No, she did not want Caylee to be found.

 

[kiki the parrot]

While it remains to be seen at trial on precisely what grounds ME ruled homicide, and while there exists some dispute still as to whether it was to conceal anything from a coldblooded premeditated murder to a negligence scenario eg, I believe there is little doubt left in anyone's mind as to whether KC staged a kidnapping. Bottom line: why then stage anything if you don't intend it to be discovered. For this reason I do believe KC intentionally chose a disposal site (ie vs a 'burial site,' per TM's firsthand eyewitness description) yet failed to anticipate Faye and the three feet of water which would immerse her daughter's remains within weeks. JMO

 

[Anais]

Oh you are right about that, I am sure! I have always thought she looked for missing (as opposed to "murdered") kids to look for tips on how avoid getting caught.

The one thing that I don't think is, I don't think she ever planned to run off forever. Sometimes that comes up as a theory and I just don't think it fits her personality. Someone with no work experience and a long history of mooching of the kindness of friends would not have planned to dump them all over something so minor as this. I think she may have wanted Cindy to *think* she ran off in a huff and might never return... and clearly Cindy's "caylee is missing" post certainly sounds like she thinks the two of them might never come back... but I can't imagine KC really thought about pulling up all her stakes and disappearing forever. I really think the plan (during the first 31 days) hinged on eventually someone finding the body and then KC would be forgiven and CA and GA would be so wrapped up in their grief they would forget the argument that caused KC to leave in a huff.

On somewhat of a tangent, something occurred to me a couple of weeks ago when someone posted on another thread about how much media attention this case was getting compared to other missing/murdered children. I was thinking how KC was definitely not expecting the huge following of this case:

• the myspace tributes
• people writing songs about Caylee
• reporters camped in front of the parents' house
• the family's every move on webcam
• her text messages dissected by thousands of people

I don't think she ever imagined that Caylee would be "missing" for any length of time. In truth, if Caylee had been found before CA came calling, this case might have been a minor local story, and I think that was what KC was banking on. The "fatal flaw" in her plan was that she put off someone finding the body too long so she could have a bit more fun before the grieving. And once the media circus began it was a far bigger monster than even KC could control.

DawnTCB-you are so right on to where I was going with this. If things had gone the way Casey had wanted then we wouldn't have known anything about little Caylee Marie Anthony! She would have been another missing/murdered little girl! But because she had not been found it all backfired on Casey.

See I don't think that she had this plan set in stone, rather she threw it together on the fly! But I believe that it is why she placed Caylee in such a close and familiar place to home. It sounds as if many neighborhood kids and teens are always in those woods, so Casey would have expected someone to have discovered her!

It is so very sick, just beyond when I see how badly her parents were basically suffering. The jail video where CA can barely choke out the word to casey, Casey that lady, she won't hurt Caylee will she? And Casey just kind of ignores her at first and then CA repeats demanding an answer and all she does is huff out at her mom, I hope not! (while rolling her eyes)