Did You Know That Patsy Spelled Advise Wrong In The Sample RN?

[RiverRat]

I'll catch the replay.

It WAS a woman! If it's who I THINK it is, that's all I need to know!

(I can see RiverRat now: "Oh, Lord, don't get him started!")

Sorry Sweets, but it wasn't Wendy......you JUST missed her on the Caylee case last night though!

 

[RiverRat]

Easy, RiverRat. That wasn't a jab at me.

TMIKWID!

If you say so......

I'd say read the post again though!

 

[Tadpole12]

Yeah,

ESL = English as Second Language

Huh?
Multilinguists rock! bra.


Play nice?
I dunno, there have been very disparaging inuendos regarding Star Trek: Next Generation .... and that's where I draw the line! regardless of playground rules.

 

[BBB167893]

Sorry Sweets, but it wasn't Wendy

Oh, heck!

you JUST missed her on the Caylee case last night though!

I handle one case, RR. You know that.

 

[Tadpole12]

found this, thought it was an interesting read in relation to the JBR case:

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Crime/2009/01/21/8095606-sun.html

The defence pointed to a respected CFS study indicating that transmission of semen is possible by washing semen-stained clothing with a load of pristine clothing. Afterwards, the previously clean items had semen samples, the study found.
The defence is that Mumford, who often babysat the child overnight and did his laundry, spread his semen in the wash, not by sexually assaulting the child.
Bowie couldn't rule out the possibility that the sperm could have been transmitted by laundering the boy's clothing with Mumford's. But she said the semen was more likely transmitted directly on to the underwear.

 

[RiverRat]

Oh, heck!



I handle one case, RR. You know that.

You are very loyal, this is true!

 

[Ames]

SD thanks so much for listing all those! You did forget one, NG as I was just watching Nancy Grace and she had a segment on this case being reopened. I know she sometimes embellishes things but she had a guest who said the autopsy report showed JBR had "chronic vaginal injuries" meaning she had been sexually molested over a period of time and I haven't heard this before. Is there any truth to it?

After Sheryl McCollum said that, NG said that she had never heard that before, about the "chronic vaginal injuries". And then she cut to Jean Casarez who said..."I am looking at the autopsy report, I have it right here in my hands, and it doesn't mention anywhere about "chronic vaginal injuries". The part about Jean Casarez saying that there was no chronic vaginal injuries was left out for some reason. But, if you read down, you will see where the other lady..Sheryl McCollum, says "Maybe I misspoke with Chronic."


Here is the NG Transcript from last nights show...I snipped the portion about little Caylee Anthony.

GRACE: Straight out to Jean Casarez with "In Session." Jean, the case is reopened?

JEAN CASAREZ, LEGAL CORRESPONDENT, "IN SESSION", COVERING STORY: That`s right. The district attorney that just took office a few days ago is actually handing it back to the police department. They will convene a task force to look at basics. Police notes from way in the beginning to discover and try to find out who killed JonBenet Ramsey.

But I think, Nancy, the revelation here, I think, comes from new DNA evidence uncovered midyear last year.

GRACE: And what are you -- what DNA evidence are you referring to specifically?

CASAREZ: Well, let`s talk about 1997. They did find DNA in the panties of JonBenet Ramsey, an undisclosed male DNA. That was thought it could have been the person that put the panties together in China, but last year, nuclear DNA testing of touch DNA testing was done and found DNA on the side of the long johns on both sides that was identical to the DNA in the panties.

GRACE: You are seeing new photos we have just obtained of JonBenet Ramsey and the crime scene.

To Rupa Mikkilineni, our producer on the case, what can you tell us, Rupa?

RUPA MIKKILINENI, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: About the evidence, Nancy. You`re talking about these photos, for example. There`s -- a lot going to in this case and this is what`s so frustrating to prosecutors as well as the police department.

As you know, they made an announcement today. They will be working jointly, formulating a task force of about 20 people that will be revisiting all of the evidence, all of the records in the case. There`s some chance also that now with newly available technology they will be able to revisit actual evidence that they weren`t able to process before and maybe look at it and find new evidence from this current evidence in the evidence room.

GRACE: To Sheryl McCollum, crime analyst and director of Cold Case Squad -- Sheryl, the killer felt so at home in the Ramsey home he/she wrote, I believe, a five-page ransom note.

SHERYL MCCOLLUM, CRIME ANALYST, DIR. COLD CASE SQUAD AT PINE LAKE P.D.: Right.

GRACE: . claiming to take the child away. Wrote a practice note as well. Come on, it was written with, let`s see, Patsy Ramsey`s sharpie on Patsy Ramsey`s notepad. Then.

MCCOLLUM: Then put it back on her desk.

GRACE: And then the so-called kidnapper says you know what, to heck with all the money. I`m just killing her here and leave her body.

MCCOLLUM: Right. All in the same house. And this killer felt so at home on Christmas Eve he went up and down the steps, stayed in the home a while, went and found the pen. Went and got her blanket. Went and got a toy. Yes, he was in no hurry to leave this house. This stranger. And don`t forget the chronic vaginal injury.

GRACE: Explain.

MCCOLLUM: On the autopsy report it explains in great detail that JonBenet suffered chronic vaginal injury which means she was molested over a period of time. So again this stranger would have to have access to her. And then you know harm her sexually and then come in the house and kill her at another time.

GRACE: To Dr. Joshua Perper, chief medical examiner, Broward County, the new investigative task force says that additional testing will be done.

What testing do you believe that may be?

PERPER: Well, probably they`re going to review the entire body of evidence. And as it was indicated, there was some new evidence which was found recently. And most likely they will try to match the DNA to the national database.

GRACE: To Jean Casarez with "In Session," why have the police decided now to take the case back?

CASAREZ: Well, I think the D.A.`s office is giving it back to the police department. Remember, 2002, the D.A.`s office took over the investigation because the police department was amid with controversy about how they had handled this case. Now it`s going back where they believe it should be.

You know, Nancy, when I was in Colorado in 2006, the Colorado Bureau of Investigation told me that they had tested more items for DNA from this case than in the history of the Colorado Bureau of Investigation as to any other case in Colorado.

GRACE: Jean, have they any new theories?

CASAREZ: Well, I don`t think they have new theories, but they have new DNA techniques. And I think that is going to be central to this case. But can we only say this is a DNA case now? Or can we still say that other evidence will lead to clues to find the killer?

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

MCCOLLUM: Very methodically. And let me tell you one thing. Maybe I misspoke with chronic. But I`ll tell you one thing I know for sure. The killer is out there.

GRACE: The abrasion is -- regarding the hymen. The child did have, still have a hymen. So what does that suggest to you, Sheryl?

MCCOLLUM: Maybe not full-on penetration. But again, an assault of some sort that should not have occurred with somebody 6 years old.

GRACE: And back to Jean Casarez, where do we go from here?

CASAREZ: Well, the task force is being selected now. They will reconvene. And I don`t think we will hear anything until they have evidence that they believe should be released to the public.

GRACE: Everyone, let`s stop and remember Marine Lance Corporal Travis Stottlemyer, 20, Hatfield, Pennsylvania. Awarded the National Defense Service medial, Global War on Terrorism Service medal. Loved outdoors, music, softball, Discovery Channel, playing with nieces and nephews. Leaves behind parents Robert and Cheryl, three sisters.

Travis Stottlemyer, American hero.

Thanks to our guests, but especially to you for being with us. I`ll see you tomorrow night, 8:00 sharp Eastern. And until then, good night, friend.

END

 

[RiverRat]

I Love Nancy - however - I am pretty sure that last night was NOT the first time that she heard that FACT. Jean C makes me sick as she held the report in her hands and still stated otherwise!

Ames - please repost that at HomeBase for me! Thanks!

 

[Ames]

I Love Nancy - however - I am pretty sure that last night was NOT the first time that she heard that FACT. Jean C makes me sick as she held the report in her hands and still stated otherwise!

Ames - please repost that at HomeBase for me! Thanks!

Okay, I must have taken a stupid pill. I will be more than glad to post it at HomeBase....IF I knew where that was. LOL Please give me directions on how to get there. Are you talking about FFJ???

 

[Ames]

I Love Nancy - however - I am pretty sure that last night was NOT the first time that she heard that FACT. Jean C makes me sick as she held the report in her hands and still stated otherwise!

Ames - please repost that at HomeBase for me! Thanks!

I KNOW! I have even heard her mention that fact before. I just love her to death, but I have noticed that she has said some things that weren't true, regarding the Caylee Anthony case and Laticia Nance, a producer for the show has to correct her. It must be those twins of her...my three kids make me forgetful too!

 

[BBB167893]

I Love Nancy - however - I am pretty sure that last night was NOT the first time that she heard that FACT.

It wasn't. Nice to know some of us have better memories

Jean C makes me sick as she held the report in her hands and still stated otherwise!

It's just as I've always said.

 

[RiverRat]

Okay, I must have taken a stupid pill. I will be more than glad to post it at HomeBase....IF I knew where that was. LOL Please give me directions on how to get there. Are you talking about FFJ???

Thanks! You got it! :blowkiss:

 

[Ames]

Thanks! You got it! :blowkiss:

LOL...duh...sorry about that. I posted it over there, right after I realized what you were talking about. I believe that my brain must be on overload, thinking about the possibility that JB may finally get justice after all the years.

 

[Egoslayer]

Patsy probably took a %$#*load of zanax to get her through and as they started kicking in, she got bolder. She wrote the note with all of its TRANSPARENCY.

But as someone suggested on Topix, Patsy did not apologize to anyone before she died and in order to be forgiven, totally forgiven, one must be honest in their repentence. So since Patsy lived her life lying about "someone being out there", she needed to apologize to all of those people that she and John may have suggested were involved. They could start with Merrick.

Having NOT done that, Patsy I am afraid is not forgiven. Those are the rules. I did not make them up. :blowkiss:

She could have confessed to a priest who is not allowed to speak out about confessions they hear

 

[weasel]

I'm not sure if I remember this correctly or not .... didn't they have a panel of pediatricians who examined the autopsy report and only one out of like 6 or 7 say it was chronic? I can't remember exacts on this, can anyone help?

 

[BBB167893]

I'm not sure if I remember this correctly or not .... didn't they have a panel of pediatricians who examined the autopsy report and only one out of like 6 or 7 say it was chronic? I can't remember exacts on this, can anyone help?

I can try.

Okay, here goes. There was in fact a panel of pediatricians and pathologists. But you have their conclusions exactly the opposite way around; there was only one hold-out, and even then, that one did NOT say that there was not any, but only that he wasn't positive.

 

[weasel]

Thanks .... do you remember where you saw this? TIA!

 

[BBB167893]

Thanks .... do you remember where you saw this? TIA!

Yes, I do.

Perfect Murder, Perfect Town, for one. It lists the doctors who formed the panel:

James Monteleone

David Jones

John McCann (THAT's the big one)

Ronald Wright

Richard Krugman

Werner Spitz (the lone holdout)

The Bonita Papers also list Virginia Rau as one of them. They also give Krugman's name along with Andrew Sirotnak, who examined the actual body at the autopsy. In 2001, the two of them were so convinced, they authored a medical treatise on child abuse using JBR as the kick-off point. I'll find the website for you.

Vanity Fair gave Robert Kirschner's take on it.

Finally, FOX News in 2006 did an interview with Holly Smith, Boulder County's Sex Crimes Investigator. She found a few things.

 

[weasel]

<<Perfect Murder, Perfect Town, for one. It lists the doctors who formed the panel>>

I sorry, but I meant a genuine source. Lawrence Schiller isn't going to cut it for me.

<<I'll find the website for you.>>

Much appreciated.

 

[BBB167893]

<<Perfect Murder, Perfect Town, for one. It lists the doctors who formed the panel>>

I sorry, but I meant a genuine source. Lawrence Schiller isn't going to cut it for me.

Just what would you consider a genuine source?

<<I'll find the website for you.>>

Much appreciated.

http://www.cyc-net.org/today2001/today011224.html