Did You Know That Patsy Spelled Advise Wrong In The Sample RN?

[KoldKase]

The Ramseys lied about cooperating with LE in the murder investigation: they withheld critical evidence when they kept the Bloomies package for five years after the murder before Wood finally turned it in to Lacy. Patsy said she knew about the Bloomies being important when questioned on it in 2000 in Atlanta; she was told then by LE clearly that this was critical evidence. She was questioned closely about the Bloomies. She never said a word about having the package.

For ANOTHER TWO YEARS the Ramseys kept that evidence from LE.

That's not cooperation in the murder investigation of their child. Make up every excuse you want, but they lie everytime they say/said that, and this is one undeniable example, because it was revealed by the RST themselves.

I won't even go into the issues of OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE in this example of how the Ramseys did NOT cooperate with LE in the investigation. Anyone else would have been raked over the coals for doing that, if not arrested for obstruction of justice, but Lacy chose to thank them for at long last bringing in alleged evidence which was no longer useful for trial because the chain of custody would never pass the test anymore.

 

[wedavis]

Go for it.

Prove any of the following:

PR or JR lied about tea or pineapple.
PR faked the 911 call.
Unknown male DNA is not related to the sexual assault that night.
PR misspelled advise on purpose, or misspelled advise intermittently.

According to the Bonita papers PR graduated magna laude.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Holdon,

There you go taking things at face value again. Of course Patsy was trying to sound like an intruder. She was also no doubt ingesting a sizable amount of drugs - one can clearly see the ransom note writing as shaky in the beginnning and then leveling out - It seems she just could not stop herself - she just kept on writing - and you know what they say about people on drugs. They think no one knows they are stoned.

Three pages - the woman would not shut up. Wouldn't be surpised if she took most of the bottle that night. One would have to in order to get through it. Carrying JB alone to the basement would require a handful. And then the garrote and the sexual assault. She probably carried the xanax with her.

This is all just your fantasy, illusion, hallucination, whatever you want to call it. You make stuff up, I guess?

 

[Solace]

That single word 'may' is what separates you and I from the pros, I think.

Its wise to leave yourself an out, just in case you're wrong.

The idea that all pros are in silent objection to IDI is ridiculous. What you need to be taken seriously are contemporary quotes from Ressler, McCrary, DePue, VanZandt from after the latest DNA findings.

Hat,

Van Zandt says IT IS AN ATTEMPT TO SOUND FOREIGN. What are you reading? :bang:

 

[Solace]

This is all just your fantasy, illusion, hallucination, whatever you want to call it. You make stuff up, I guess?

No, I don't make stuff up Hat. Patsy proved that she was into a large amount of drugs on her first CNN interview. No one, and I mean no one, takes that amount of drugs to "calm their emotions" unless one is use to taking them and IS POSITIVE THEY HAVE NOT TAKEN ENOUGH.

She did not just start taking them that day or the day of the murder. Anyone who did not take drugs and was being sedated would not have needed the amount she obviouslly showed she had taken. She was use to them.

But then again, you only take things at face value, you do not question at all. So why would you question anything they did, why would you NOT question the DA refusing to get the phone records.

It is boring how you IDIs resort to saying people make things up when you have no intention of addressing the fact that Patsy more than likely had sedatives in her home. Do you really think she got through the cancer treatments without them? If you do, you then SD, you are wasting your time.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

No, I don't make stuff up Hat. Patsy proved that she was into a large amount of drugs on her first CNN interview. No one, and I mean no one, takes that amount of drugs to "calm their emotions" unless one is use to taking them and IS POSITIVE THEY HAVE NOT TAKEN ENOUGH.

She did not just start taking them that day or the day of the murder. Anyone who did not take drugs and was being sedated would not have needed the amount she obviouslly showed she had taken. She was use to them.

This all reads like cheap shots, nothing more. Are you bitter? Is there some other reason besides your belief in RDI that motivates you to come up with this stuff?

When was the last RDI show on TV? The last TV show I saw was IDI. When was the last RDI statement by LE?? The last one I heard was IDI. Maybe you should keep this in mind while thinking up new cheap shots? You know, keeping with the trend of the times and all that.

 

[JMO8778]

No, I don't make stuff up Hat. Patsy proved that she was into a large amount of drugs on her first CNN interview. No one, and I mean no one, takes that amount of drugs to "calm their emotions" unless one is use to taking them and IS POSITIVE THEY HAVE NOT TAKEN ENOUGH.

She did not just start taking them that day or the day of the murder. Anyone who did not take drugs and was being sedated would not have needed the amount she obviouslly showed she had taken. She was use to them.

But then again, you only take things at face value, you do not question at all. So why would you question anything they did, why would you NOT question the DA refusing to get the phone records.

It is boring how you IDIs resort to saying people make things up when you have no intention of addressing the fact that Patsy more than likely had sedatives in her home. Do you really think she got through the cancer treatments without them? If you do, you then SD, you are wasting your time.

I think Dr Beuf had her on an even higher level of meds after the murder...drugged to the max,as much as she could possibly be.I think he didn't want her to talk,and it was all he had to make sure she didn't..and even if she did talk,the defense could say it could be ascribed to the meds...'delusions',not real,actual events.
I think this indicates Dr Beuf knew a whole lot more about the family dynamics that had been going on.

 

[s_finch]

Because she knew that advise was spelled correctly in the RN. Why she chose that particular word, I have NO clue...because there were others that she could have misspelled. The author of the RN spelled attache (complete with accent mark)..correctly. So, really...that would have been a good one for her to misspell. But for some reason she chose advise. IMO when they were dictating the note to her, for her to write it...in her head she said..."I need to pick a word that I know was spelled correctly in the ransom note...and misspell it on purpose, not once but twice." So during the dictation, when they came to the word ADVISE, she said to herself...IMO..."Okay, that would be a good one, because it actually DOES sound like it has a z in it." Guess she didn't realize that people would soon find out that she was a journalism major. But really...think about it hold...the RN author spells attache (complete with accent mark) correctly, but misspells business....Patsy spells attache correctly, but misspells advise. That should tell you SOMETHING.

....repectfully snipped

The RN was written in a rushed, frantic situation and with it being 3 pages long I doubt Patsy could later remember exactly which words she wrote correctly and which words she didn't (because she would have chosen to misspell some words on the RN in order to further point suspicion towards that foreign faction) ,,,especially since her mind was probably really clouded with meds during all the weeks after the murder. When writing the first sample for LE she hit and missed with guesses as to which words she misspelled in the RN but apparently got her thoughts straight enough during/after the first writing sample to remember which words she misspelled in the first writing sample and then remained consistent in those from there on out when doing 2nd and 3rd writing samples.

 

[Solace]

This all reads like cheap shots, nothing more. Are you bitter? Is there some other reason besides your belief in RDI that motivates you to come up with this stuff?

When was the last RDI show on TV? The last TV show I saw was IDI. When was the last RDI statement by LE?? The last one I heard was IDI. Maybe you should keep this in mind while thinking up new cheap shots? You know, keeping with the trend of the times and all that.

Cheap Shots. John and Patsy are the master of ceremonies of CHEAP SHOTS. First against JB AND THEN THEIR MOST TREASURED FRIENDs. I mean everyone was guilty according to the Ramseys or should be looked at Even though they asked the Whites over that morning. I guess they didn't expect his PEN AND PAD. That would make me nervous also.

You belong with Evening 2 and Eagle. What is it that comes up everytime they are caught NOT THINKING about the obvious 'you RDIs are bitter, you are out for a lynching, and on and on ad nauseum".

Get your head out of the Sahara, Patsy was a chemically dependent person and it started most likely with the onset of CANCER.

I am a realist Hat and you just can't believe that people with all that money and therefore and such could do what they did. They could and they did and you aint neva and I mean neva gonna find a match for an intruder.


Patsy loved her xanax and she probably popped a near bottle when writing that ridiculous note. She definitely needed more than her usual dose. After all it is not easy to defile your daughter sobre.

 

[BBB167893]

Cheap Shots. John and Patsy are the master of ceremonies of CHEAP SHOTS. First against JB AND THEN THEIR MOST TREASURED FRIENDs. I mean everyone was guilty according to the Ramseys or should be looked at Even though they asked the Whites over that morning. I guess they didn't expect his PEN AND PAD. That would make me nervous also.

You belong with Evening 2 and Eagle. What is it that comes up everytime they are caught NOT THINKING about the obvious 'you RDIs are bitter, you are out for a lynching, and on and on ad nauseum".

Get your head out of the Sahara, Patsy was a chemically dependent person and it started most likely with the onset of CANCER.

I am a realist Hat and you just can't believe that people with all that money and therefore and such could do what they did. They could and they did and you aint neva and I mean neva gonna find a match for an intruder.

It's a hard lesson for a cruel world, but we all had damn well better learn it: evil wears many masks. The mask of good is the most dangerous mask of all.

Patsy loved her xanax and she probably popped a near bottle when writing that ridiculous note. She definitely needed more than her usual dose. After all it is not easy to defile your daughter sobre.

I've got to go with Solace on this one. And yes, in my case, there IS something other than my belief in RDI: it's called my life's experience. Having lost both parents to that dreaded traitor to mankind called cancer, I've lived with the pain and the drugs. Look, I'm no scientologist, but even I have to balk at the way our society overmedicates us, including the use of drugs which we don't know everything about. Only the gods know what kind of damage her treatments and drugs did to her mind. This is an area I believe must be researched more fully. If these drugs have these dangerous side effects, we owe it to JonBenet and we owe it to Patsy to make sure that nothing like this happens again.

 

[Solace]

It's a hard lesson for a cruel world, but we all had damn well better learn it: evil wears many masks. The mask of good is the most dangerous mask of all.



I've got to go with Solace on this one. And yes, in my case, there IS something other than my belief in RDI: it's called my life's experience. Having lost both parents to that dreaded traitor to mankind called cancer, I've lived with the pain and the drugs. Look, I'm no scientologist, but even I have to balk at the way our society overmedicates us, including the use of drugs which we don't know everything about. Only the gods know what kind of damage her treatments and drugs did to her mind. This is an area I believe must be researched more fully. If these drugs have these dangerous side effects, we owe it to JonBenet and we owe it to Patsy to make sure that nothing like this happens again.

These drugs are highly addictive and they are chemicals, e.g. xanax. And they get right into the bone marrow. There is no six day cure in rehab for these types of drugs. It is a six month period. At least 30 days in a hospital and then it takes a good six months to truly get rid of them. But one is able to function.

Alcohol and heroin - six days - then they have the mental thing to deal with. Chemicals such as tranquilizers - some are more addictive than others, but they are surely addictive. Klonopin is used in place of xanax because xanax is so addictive. There is no way, none, nada, that Patsy did NOT use these tranquilizers during her cancer treatment. I can guarantee that when she took up residence in the "SOLARIUM" at the house, that she was doing the xanax and other things just so she could get through and told herself this Sun is amazing - and what can I say about God - he is just the be all and end all - I am going to be saved. All the while, she is definitely doing xanax and the light - Hey I am not judging her, cancer is horrendous and I would probably do the same. But make no mistake about it - addiction is part of it.

 

[DeeDee249]

I have a friend who went through breast cancer treatment twice. The first time, there was no chemo. That's probably why it came back.
The second time there was the full chemo treatment and tranquilizers and mood stabilizers were considered a part of the treatment, and an important part. They were not optional. I don't know if it is to help the patient keep a more positive attitude (which aids recovery) or if it is to keep them from flipping out big time. Maybe a bit of both.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

It's a hard lesson for a cruel world, but we all had damn well better learn it: evil wears many masks. The mask of good is the most dangerous mask of all.



I've got to go with Solace on this one. And yes, in my case, there IS something other than my belief in RDI: it's called my life's experience. Having lost both parents to that dreaded traitor to mankind called cancer, I've lived with the pain and the drugs. Look, I'm no scientologist, but even I have to balk at the way our society overmedicates us, including the use of drugs which we don't know everything about. Only the gods know what kind of damage her treatments and drugs did to her mind. This is an area I believe must be researched more fully. If these drugs have these dangerous side effects, we owe it to JonBenet and we owe it to Patsy to make sure that nothing like this happens again.

Oh, no WAY! I thought FOR SURE you'd side with me that Solace was making that stuff up. Figures. Darn it.

 

[Solace]

Oh, no WAY! I thought FOR SURE you'd side with me that Solace was making that stuff up. Figures. Darn it.

If you go to bed at night and there is no snow on the ground and when you wake up in the morning, there is, you can safely say it '"snowed" during the night. There is no way that Patsy got through her horrendous treatments with STAGE IV OVARIAN CANCER without the help of tranquilizers and she went through this process for months and months - SHE WAS ON TRANQUILIZERS and you can be sure that she became addicted to them. Whether you like it or not Hat.

 

[BBB167893]

Oh, no WAY! I thought FOR SURE you'd side with me that Solace was making that stuff up. Figures. Darn it.

It's nice to see you have a sense of humor.

To be fair, Holdon, if it weren't for my own life's experience with this particular subject, it would be very tempting to come down on your side and say, "well, this was just pulled out of thin air." But I honestly can't do that, not after what I've been through, what I've lived through since I was 10-years-old. And as such, I resent your implication.

More to the point, Holdon, Patsy admitted that she took several kinds of drugs. It makes sense, like it or not. And if you had bothered to read my full post (the part you didn't highlight), you'd see that I was very clear that if these drugs are dangerous, and I believe they are, then PR was a victim as well.

Walk a mile in my boots, Holdon.

 

[JMO8778]

benzo's hit on negative receptors in the brain..to put it simply.that's why prescribing them to a depressed person is akin to handing them a loaded gun.
I'm not saying Patsy was clinically depressed,(even so,as downers,they still hit on the negative receptors and can cause a bad mood).But she certainly had a lot on her plate at that time,and I also wonder if,(considering they had an upcoming cruise),if she might have also been taking diet pills,as has been mentioned in the past.
Either could be negative twds her mood,and perhaps a combo could result in an explosive,uncontrollable rage,which she took out on JB that night.We know the housekeeper had mentioned Patsy being extremely upset twds JB shortly bf the murder,even saying she had never seen Patsy that upset before.JAT.

 

[Solace]

benzo's hit on negative receptors in the brain..to put it simply.that's why prescribing them to a depressed person is akin to handing them a loaded gun.
I'm not saying Patsy was clinically depressed,(even so,as downers,they still hit on the negative receptors and can cause a bad mood).But she certainly had a lot on her plate at that time,and I also wonder if,(considering they had an upcoming cruise),if she might have also been taking diet pills,as has been mentioned in the past.
Either could be negative twds her mood,and perhaps a combo could result in an explosive,uncontrollable rage,which she took out on JB that night.We know the housekeeper had mentioned Patsy being extremely upset twds JB shortly bf the murder,even saying she had never seen Patsy that upset before.JAT.

Well, that is interesting. Diet Pills? Dexadrin or the like. Jeffrey MacDonald slaughtered his whole family in a "rage" and it was found that he was also taking diet pills for some time.

I am not at all saying that she was and it is the cause, but I am positive that she still was doing tranquilizers and after being up for 16 hours and a couple of glasses of wine and coming home at 9:30 p.m., she had to be exhausted and in NO MOOD for any sass (for lack of a better word) or bedwetting from JB. The sheets did have creatine on them, if I recall correctly and also I understand that they were left on the bed for some time after the murder???? Am I right and still creatine was found. Soooo, can this lead us to believe that she DID WET the bed that night. Anyone?

 

[DeeDee249]

Well, that is interesting. Diet Pills? Dexadrin or the like. Jeffrey MacDonald slaughtered his whole family in a "rage" and it was found that he was also taking diet pills for some time.

I am not at all saying that she was and it is the cause, but I am positive that she still was doing tranquilizers and after being up for 16 hours and a couple of glasses of wine and coming home at 9:30 p.m., she had to be exhausted and in NO MOOD for any sass (for lack of a better word) or bedwetting from JB. The sheets did have creatine on them, if I recall correctly and also I understand that they were left on the bed for some time after the murder???? Am I right and still creatine was found. Soooo, can this lead us to believe that she DID WET the bed that night. Anyone?

We do know that the sheets were not wet when LE checked them, but creatine is indicative of urine that had dried. When housekeeper LHP was shown the photos of JBR's room, she told LE that the sheets on her bed were not the ones she put on them when she was at the R house last. This would have been Dec. 23, the day of the R party. LHP did not go to the R's on either Dec. 24 or Dec. 25. So there is a possibility that JBR wet the bed on either or both of those days, with PR changing the sheets (though it would not surprise me if she simply left the urine-soaked sheets on the bed to dry, after washing the blanket, which would maybe not have dried for the next evening). Creatine was not found on the blanket, so we can assume it was washed.
I believe the white blanket was pulled from the basement dryer. LHP said that JBR's white blanket was washed only in the basement washer/dryer, because it was a full-size set; the blanket didn't fit in the smaller washer/dryer outside JBR's room. The crime photos of JBRs bedroom show an unmade bed, but not a bed that had been stripped of the blanket. The foot section of the bed showed the bedspread still in place, and it did not look like anyone had pulled it apart to remove the blanket.
No kidnapper would take off the blanket and remake just the bottom of the bed- and no kidnapper would ever know that JBR's white blanket was dried in the basement dryer, nor would any intruder think to look there. If covering the body was the issue, the bedspread or frankly, a towel, would have done the job just as well, though I don't believe an intruder would have cared about covering the body. They'd have left the body uncovered; what would be the purpose in covering it? The child's dead- you just up and get the H out of the house asap. You don't stop to write a 3 page note, you don't creep around the house doing so. You don't feed the victim pineapple, or anything ELSE in the house before you kill her.
Just these factors alone-the RN, the changed sheets, the white blanket which was in the basement (I really feel the Barbie nightie, as JR himself said, "didn't belong there" and was pulled out of the dryer inadvertently with the blanket), the covered-up body all lead me to one place- parental involvement in the killing, coverup or both.
One thing I don't recall seeing anywhere- did LE check the basement dryer to see if there were sheets from JBR's bed in there? That would confirm, IMO, that the blanket had been pulled from there too.

 

[JMO8778]

I buy parts of the RN, so when you say 'no one buys the ransom letter as legit' you're wrong.

right.only you do.

It doesn't take much to be a revolutionary you know. Anybody can be a revolutionary.

anybody can play one as well.esp. Patsy the actress.and don't tell me she didn't have experience.

You may as well suggest JBR was killed by the house cat. Thats how I see RDI.

PATSY the house cat.MEOW.

 

[JMO8778]

I've got to go with Solace on this one. And yes, in my case, there IS something other than my belief in RDI: it's called my life's experience. Having lost both parents to that dreaded traitor to mankind called cancer, I've lived with the pain and the drugs. Look, I'm no scientologist, but even I have to balk at the way our society overmedicates us, including the use of drugs which we don't know everything about. Only the gods know what kind of damage her treatments and drugs did to her mind. This is an area I believe must be researched more fully. If these drugs have these dangerous side effects, we owe it to JonBenet and we owe it to Patsy to make sure that nothing like this happens again.

absolutely.those drugs bought Patsy more time,but if they damaged her mind,at what price?
I've also wondered what the lack of hormones (at her fairly young age) when she lost them did to her,esp. in combo w the chemo drugs...most ppl don't realize there is a delicate hormone balance between ovarian,adrenal,and thyroid hormones.(google Dr Shames,he has a great info on it).it's like a 3-legged stool,and when one set of hormones is off balance,the others suffer as well.and who knows to what extent the combo affected her mind.