Dina Shacknai wants Max's death reopened; gives ICU pic to media

[jjenny]

Yes, but with Max around, Dina would be in Jonah's life FOREVER. I do not think Rebecca liked Dina just from the things Mary Zahau has said. I bet Rebecca seethed every time Dina and Jonah attended a school function or soccer game for Max. She had to sit home every time Jonah left to do that. And Dina is very attractive as well, and she and Jonah share that beautiful little boy. They would always be his parents, no matter how much Rebecca wanted to be in a mother role. Can't you imagine Rebecca always wondering if Dina would get him back? After all, he loved Dina enough to marry her and have a child with her.

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And then what? Why would she kill herself just a couple days later, after supposedly getting a phone call that Max's condition worsened? According to you, she would have just accomplished getting Dina out of her life. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

 

[colette]

Children? Performing CPR? I think you are confusing it with Heimlich maneuver.

I have worked 30 years as a critical care RN, I think I know the difference between CPR and the Heimlick maneuver.

There have been numerous stories over the years about children performing CPR after seeing it on TV, here are some examples of recent cases:


2 girls saved Mom from CPR learned from watching Grey's Anatomy

http://tweentribune.com/content/girls-use-cpr-seen-tv-save-moms-life?page=3&destination=

9 yr old saved 2 year old sister with CPR after drowning from seeing it on TV

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/HeartHealth/year-boy-saves-baby-sister-cpr/story?id=13408947

TV shows help boy, 11, save drowning cousin
http://www.kpho.com/story/17270242/boy-11-saves-cousin-from-drowning

8 year old boy saves Mom by CPR learned from the History Channel

http://centralny.ynn.com/content/top_stories/583148/oswego-boy-saves-mom-with-cpr/

These are just a few, there are plenty of stories like this.

 

[jjenny]

And those are wonderful stories-but none of the victims had spinal cord injuries.

 

[Wendy101]

Yes, but with Max around, Dina would be in Jonah's life FOREVER. I do not think Rebecca liked Dina just from the things Mary Zahau has said. I bet Rebecca seethed every time Dina and Jonah attended a school function or soccer game for Max. She had to sit home every time Jonah left to do that. And Dina is very attractive as well, and she and Jonah share that beautiful little boy. They would always be his parents, no matter how much Rebecca wanted to be in a mother role. Can't you imagine Rebecca always wondering if Dina would get him back? After all, he loved Dina enough to marry her and have a child with her.

Can you please link us to these happy pictures of Rebecca and Max, because I only know about the one where Rebecca looks like she's forcing him to sit on her lap and he looks ready to scream.

And why kill Max rather than Dina? Max was a much easier target.

from what you wrote it settles it for me... Dina used Max to stay in Jonah's life.. Just like she still uses his last name to this day! Tlak about a woman who won't let go!!
In my opinion, Dina is not a beutiful woman at all... She kind of looks "tomboyish" to me.. She also has a very hard aura to her character...
As you say, yes, Dina and Jonah created Max, and that at ONE time he loved her enough to have a child with her... I agree with you there, but, then he left her for another woman ... He did not love her enough to stay with her..

the picture you are speaking if, I see Maxie, cuddling uo with Rebecca.. Safe in her arms... Her aura is gentle .. You can see it in the pictures.... What is interesting is that I have seen no pictures is Dina and Max together in a cuddle..

 

[Wendy101]

Jonah had not asked Rebecca to marry him. They were not engaged.

Well he gave her a mighty fine diamond on her finger to claim her as his own, moved her into his home.. He obviously loved her deeply..also, the pictures of them together say a thousand words.. They loved and adored each other..

 

[colette]

And those are wonderful stories-but none of the victims had spinal cord injuries.

The point has nothing to do with spinal cord injuries. My point was if kids seeing TV CPR can use it on loved ones, why can't a trained adult in the health care business do it? I feel something was strange about the response and first aide given by Rebecca that day.

 

[Wendy101]

I have always wondered if Jonah was involved in this ... The only way I can see Jonah being involved is if he wanted to get Dina out of his life for good. Seems to me the poor man couldn't get rid of her, you know the ex-wife that can't let go, I think Dina was exactly that.. She couldn't let Jonah be happy.. She had her nose in his life every possible chance... Very sad for a woman behave like that.. Desperate.... IMO.

 

[colette]

from what you wrote it settles it for me... Dina used Max to stay in Jonah's life.. Just like she still uses his last name to this day! Tlak about a woman who won't let go!!
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Snipped by me..

Kids are supposed to outlive their parents, the loss of a child is a loss that really never goes away. There are many questions and I'm sure she wants answers about what really happened to Max.

 

[Tink56]

Yes I am in the medical field. I am a doctor.

Thanks for the response. As others have stated, just to insure your credibility, you can register as an expert. Your personal information IS NOT shared on the open forum.

Being registered enhances how you influence others' opinions.

 

[Tink56]

Yes, but with Max around, Dina would be in Jonah's life FOREVER. I do not think Rebecca liked Dina just from the things Mary Zahau has said. I bet Rebecca seethed every time Dina and Jonah attended a school function or soccer game for Max. She had to sit home every time Jonah left to do that. And Dina is very attractive as well, and she and Jonah share that beautiful little boy. They would always be his parents, no matter how much Rebecca wanted to be in a mother role.

BBM and snipped for focus

Are you suggesting that Rebecca was "forbidden" to attend Max's school functions and soccer games if Dina was present?

Once again, this is first I've heard of this. Whose "rule" was this? Was this just for the dating period or ???? Frankly, this seems a little spiteful to me.

 

[Wendy101]

Snipped by me..

Kids are supposed to outlive their parents, the loss of a child is a loss that really never goes away. There are many questions and I'm sure she wants answers about what really happened to Max.

Oh, I agree.

I was talking about when Max and Rebecca were alive and all was well ... That she couldn't let go of Jonah.. Placing requests that Rebecca was not allowed alone with him.. Because Rebecca stole from a store..lol... That is what I call a jealous ex-wife, that wouldn't let go.. She made Jonahs life hell once Rebecca entered the picture..IMO..

 

[Wendy101]

BBM and snipped for focus

Are you suggesting that Rebecca was "forbidden" to attend Max's school functions and soccer games if Dina was present?

Once again, this is first I've heard of this. Whose "rule" was this? Was this just for the dating period or ???? Frankly, this seems a little spiteful to me.

"Becky was extremely close with Max. They loved each other very, very much. Dina was jealous of that relationship between her son, and Becky,” Mary Zahau tells RadarOnline.com exclusively. “Max would spend so much time with Becky and then go home and tell Dina how much he loved Becky. If there was a school function or Max had a soccer game, Dina would sometimes demand that Becky not be there,"

http://www.radaronline.com/category/tags/dina-shackai

 

[CuriousGeorgia]

I have always wondered if Jonah was involved in this ... The only way I can see Jonah being involved is if he wanted to get Dina out of his life for good. Seems to me the poor man couldn't get rid of her, you know the ex-wife that can't let go, I think Dina was exactly that.. She couldn't let Jonah be happy.. She had her nose in his life every possible chance... Very sad for a woman behave like that.. Desperate.... IMO.

Jonah was Maxie's father. Dina and Jonah were in agreement about making being Maxie's parents work, so of course, they had lots of contact. That doesn't mean that Dina "couldn't let go". She had a boyfriend at the time of Max's death, BTW, so she had obviously moved on.

If anyone was upset about the time Dina spent with Jonah because of Max, it was Rebecca. So IMO, Dina has every right to suspect she did something to Max. Especially since she would not answer questions about his accident and would not call back detectives.

 

[CuriousGeorgia]

"Becky was extremely close with Max. They loved each other very, very much. Dina was jealous of that relationship between her son, and Becky,” Mary Zahau tells RadarOnline.com exclusively. “Max would spend so much time with Becky and then go home and tell Dina how much he loved Becky. If there was a school function or Max had a soccer game, Dina would sometimes demand that Becky not be there,"

http://www.radaronline.com/category/tags/dina-shackai

Well, first of all, that is all coming from Mary Zahau, who has an agenda, and also may be covering for Rebecca. IMO, Mary knows that Rebecca hurt Max.

If I were a Mother, I would not want my ex's "girlfriend" to attend school functions either. A fiancee' would be different, but a girlfriend, no.

JMO

 

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"Becky was extremely close with Max. They loved each other very, very much. Dina was jealous of that relationship between her son, and Becky,” Mary Zahau tells RadarOnline.com exclusively. “Max would spend so much time with Becky and then go home and tell Dina how much he loved Becky. If there was a school function or Max had a soccer game, Dina would sometimes demand that Becky not be there,"

http://www.radaronline.com/category/tags/dina-shackai

I think that is riduculous and that no parent has the right to ask the other parent to not have a normal healthy relationship where their partner is excluded from being with them and is excluded from being a part of the child's life. I never asked my ex spouse to do this and he never asked me to. I wouldn't even think of it. The case of attending events together and extracurricular activities or social events has nothing to do with the child's safety. Dina was also denying Max the full experience of having a happy father and a functional, healthy blended family. Happy, healthy blended families are that way because they are integrated together as a couple with their childrens lives. The only way that should be the case is if a court order on the level of a restraining order was justifiable. This just goes to show, in my opinion, just how petty and jealous Dina was about Rebecca and how controlling she tried to be of Jonah - of course, that could have been a game they both played in some respects. I don't think Jonah played games when it came to his kids though.

 

[CuriousGeorgia]

So this woman who cold heartedly killed a child in order to have the father all to herself and get the ex out of the way, then committed suicide in order to have suspicion fall on said father of the child?
I don't follow the logic. RZ is either someone cold hearted enough to commit murder without conscience and therefore would not be likely to commit suicide - or she was riddled with guilt because of an accident and punishing herself by suicide.

In her eyes, I'm sure death was preferable to life in prison as a child killer. I think she was very angry with Jonah for questioning her story of what happened to Max - just like the detective wanted to do.

 

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[Wendy101]

Well, first of all, that is all coming from Mary Zahau, who has an agenda, and also may be covering for Rebecca. IMO, Mary knows that Rebecca hurt Max.

If I were a Mother, I would not want my ex's "girlfriend" to attend school functions either. A fiancee' would be different, but a girlfriend, no.

JMO

From Your post 616

Yes, but with Max around, Dina would be in Jonah's life FOREVER. I do not think Rebecca liked Dina just from the things Mary Zahau has said. I bet Rebecca seethed every time Dina and Jonah attended a school function or soccer game for Max. She had to sit home every time Jonah left to do that. And Dina is very attractive as well, and she and Jonah share that beautiful little boy. They would always be his parents, no matter how much Rebecca wanted to be in a mother role. Can't you imagine Rebecca always wondering if Dina would get him back? After all, he loved Dina enough to marry her and have a child with her.

Can you please link us to these happy pictures of Rebecca and Max, because I only know about the one where Rebecca looks like she's forcing him to sit on her lap and he looks ready to scream.

And why kill Max rather than Dina? Max was a much easier target.

BBM: You now say ths is Mary Zahau's agenda?. you stated ths yourself also..

Once again here is what Mary said.
"Becky was extremely close with Max. They loved each other very, very much. Dina was jealous of that relationship between her son, and Becky,” Mary Zahau tells RadarOnline.com exclusively. “Max would spend so much time with Becky and then go home and tell Dina how much he loved Becky. If there was a school function or Max had a soccer game, Dina would sometimes demand that Becky not be there,"

 

[gypsychild]

In her eyes, I'm sure death was preferable to life in prison as a child killer. I think she was very angry with Jonah for questioning her story of what happened to Max - just like the detective wanted to do.

Again, I do not understand the logic here. Someone who would go to the great lengths to get an ex out of a her life would not give up her own life so easily. There were no arrests made, she had not been charged with any crime.
As JS did not question the "accident" determination of his sons death, apparently he was content believing it was an accident - so if the father of the child believed this, why would RZ believe she was in danger of going to prison?
It appears you are stating her motive for killing a child was to get the mother out of the way, then killing herself because she was angry at them??

 

[Wendy101]

Correct me if I am wrong, but Jonah considered Rebecca his fiancée... He let reporters print that she is is fiancée and also, is there not a ring on Rebeccas left finger in this photo??

http://www.conservativerefocus.com/...d-hanged-in-big-pharma-exec-s-house-a-suicide

the only one that calls Rebecca a "girlfriend" is Dina.. Cause IMO she can't handle the truth that they were infact engaged. Those photos she is actually posing her hand to show the ring, proud if it, I wonder if this was the engagement photo shoot?