Discrepancies in the Depositions Between Anthony Family Members

[tankgirl]

Hmm, I think he called them tire wedges..
I also seem to recall G saying that he saw laundry in the trunk when KC retrieved the gas cans. I've wondered if he saw a bag or just some clothing tossed back there.

 

[lizzysf]

Hmm, I think he called them tire wedges..
I also seem to recall G saying that he saw laundry in the trunk when KC retrieved the gas cans. I've wondered if he saw a bag or just some clothing tossed back there.

Maybe this was the day she took the canvas bag.

 

[tankgirl]

Maybe this was the day she took the canvas bag.

Could be. Unfortunately, even if he did see that bag in the trunk, at this point I doubt that he would say so.

 

[magic-cat]

George is playing the I don't know anything routine..'Cindy took care of it' and Cindy's favorite, 'I don't know, you'll have to ask George'

Yes.. they requested the contract...anyone else know the status of that now?

The copy of that document that I saw in the D Casey thread was missing page 2 of 3. I never did get to see that page-anyone else?

I think so much of what goes on with this family is born from major-league disappointment in each other. In the beginning, we talked a long time about the life Cindy always imagined for herself...and how she fought so hard to squeeze a round peg into a square hole. George wasn't going to provide her with the life his sisters obviously had, Casey wasn't going to be the daughter who went out and made something of herself, and Lee...well he's a case onto himself. They're the "pretenders" IMO.

Perhaps if she had not neutered George and had allowed him to continue in the field that he was already IN and enjoyed she might have had a different outcome. Even when they came to Orlando he was STILL interested in LE and went in and talked with them about a job, but Cindy put the brakes on that deal just like when he originally was engaged in that career...then in the depos she denies that he ever even looked into it...

Hmm, I think he called them tire wedges..
I also seem to recall G saying that he saw laundry in the trunk when KC retrieved the gas cans. I've wondered if he saw a bag or just some clothing tossed back there.

With George you just never know. He has told so many versions of this story, and in MOST of them, he never even got CLOSE to the trunk, much less close enough to look inside...:waitasec:

 

[sumbunny]

Hmm, I think he called them tire wedges..
I also seem to recall G saying that he saw laundry in the trunk when KC retrieved the gas cans. I've wondered if he saw a bag or just some clothing tossed back there.

It's wierd how george says "laundry" instead of clothes. Makes you wonder if he saw the laundry bag..:waitasec:

 

[ZsaZsa]

That's what I was thinking- the laundry bag must have had Caylee in it and he saw his grand-daughter without realizing it.

 

[CitizenKim]

If she would have used a key, it's obvious who took the gas since she did it before. If the shed somehow got broken in to, well that's anyones guess. IMO that is why she broke into the shed and didn't bother using the key.

I agree. I think it's either that or George hid the key (moved it to his nightstand) bc Casey was known to steal gas and she was "missing." They didn't want to make it easy for her.

 

[RR0004]

Ok...I have a silly question...how is it that the As can get away with all the "I don't know" or "I don't remember" (s)? When the SA asked George to explain his comment referring to being in jail-something to the effect "Remember when I had that trouble?"- how is it that he can't remember what he was referring to? That should be simple enough to remember. I know the SA asked if he'd ever been arrested, but how is it that they all get out of answering questions they obviously have the answers to?
Just curious...

 

[debs]

Ok...I have a silly question...how is it that the As can get away with all the "I don't know" or "I don't remember" (s)? When the SA asked George to explain his comment referring to being in jail-something to the effect "Remember when I had that trouble?"- how is it that he can't remember what he was referring to? That should be simple enough to remember. I know the SA asked if he'd ever been arrested, but how is it that they all get out of answering questions they obviously have the answers to?
Just curious...

Not answering it in the State's deposition allows it to be entered in as a question at trial. It was a foolish mistake for George to protect whatever it is, thinking that no one needs to know.

 

[debs]

I agree. I think it's either that or George hid the key (moved it to his nightstand) bc Casey was known to steal gas and she was "missing." They didn't want to make it easy for her.

George said in his deposition that the lock wasn't broken; it was just on the floor inside the shed.

 

[faefrost]

Ok...I have a silly question...how is it that the As can get away with all the "I don't know" or "I don't remember" (s)? When the SA asked George to explain his comment referring to being in jail-something to the effect "Remember when I had that trouble?"- how is it that he can't remember what he was referring to? That should be simple enough to remember. I know the SA asked if he'd ever been arrested, but how is it that they all get out of answering questions they obviously have the answers to?
Just curious...

Yeah well lets speculate and read between the lines a bit. George had been functioning as a plainclothes LE investigator investigating some major types of crimes including homicide. Yet in CA's deposition she tells us that he was "back in uniform" and she made him quit for his safety. Because of incidents.

That patern of Plainclothes -> Uniform -> leaving the job in a very quick timeperiod is interesting. I think that "trouble" involved something on the job that it was quietly made to go away in standard PD fashion. "Resign now and this will never be spoken of publicly".

 

[Intermezzo]

One of the disturbing pieces for me isn't the inconsistencies in these depositions when compared together, it's the comparison with the information today vs that which they gave and how they gave it, individually, to the FBI and OCSO back when. Read/watch those interviews, and then read these recent ones. Of course the questioning will be different in a sense for a deposition, but there appears to me to definitely be a shift to "only answering what is asked", rather than a free offering of information with the understanding, nonetheless, that anything you say that you haven't said before is covered under immunity from prosecution.

They are all, as they have for most of Casey's life, trying to cover for their daughter/sister's lies to the point of both the grandmother and brother inferring that Casey "speaks in riddles" or intentionally writes in a manner where the meaning is left to the perception of the reader. What?!?!?! Most of the time in my experience, a lie is just a lie, and the person uttering the lie is just liar, not some poor misunderstood victim. Of course the response from the family and other supporters would be "you don't know her" to that, however it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see common sense.

The other more uncomfortable aspect for me is that instead of accepting that the remains found are their granddaughter/niece, all of them profess not to believe it, even though the grandmother contradicts that latter statement early on by referring to "when Caylee's remains were found." IMO, lack of familiarity with the truth is not just the accused's condition, it's apparently viral to other members of the family.

What I hope is that when forced to testify in court, prosecutors will not be so "easy" with the questions. Yes, that makes me sound callous and cruel for this family who has had the tragedy with their granddaughter they have. But you know what? If it was me, I'd want to know the truth. And if I'm hiding behind some fascade of hope that is an illusion, I'd expect someone would show me that. In the case of this family, numerous parties enabling that view for the family and supporting it are mostly to the benefit of one single person: the accused.

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:clap:
Love your post

 

[Intermezzo]

GA/LA admit KC was the cause of her own failings in high school, CA is still blaming it on the teachers to this day.

Can't blame the teachers...The A's can and should blame themselves for not being actively involved in their daughter's progress at school such as checking on attendance and grades (good student or not) ....the info is available and it's called "Parents Portal" for Orange County Public schools or PIN(Parent Information Network) in Seminole County. A parent can check on their child's grades, attendance etc online...or they could have asked to see Casey's progress reports and report cards.

Nope, can't blame the teachers...Casey is to blame. the A's were none the wiser because they were not active participants in their daughter's education or else they would not have been blind sided by the revelation that Casey was not going to graduate.

My :twocents: from the parent of a child in high school in Central Florida

 

[Intermezzo]

One thing is guaranteed...the school guidance counselor would have notified Casey LONG before any of those times...perhaps even at the very beginning of the school year. They should supoena the school records and verify when CASEY knew...

BBM
True. There are procedures in place to notify parents if the student is at risk of not being promoted or able to graduate.
:twocents:

 

[Gma Kat]

Cindy is already covering for that one..
In last 100 pages of depo.. claims she always enters 8-5 as hours worked on the work computer as she is salaried (doesn't punch in and out)...yet, claims some days she stays late and some days she leaves early...usually Fridays.
Question:
What time of day were the searches for chloroform done? (I am going to guess between 3-5 PM) so she can say she left early that day but timesheet will still say 8-5...was it on a Friday as well?

Hopefully cellphone pings will verify one way or the other the times the computer was used for searches vs when CA could have physically been home. I am thinking of her referring to calling KC EVERYDAY on her drive home......that would show if she was physically home or at work or on the road....

 

[Gma Kat]

No, you are definitely correct. the OP was just saying that in certain firefox applications, and in google, sometimes if you have google autocomplete when you start to type something in the search bar, it will bring up options for related search terms, and that maybe Cindy accidentally clicked on how to make chloroform.

http://lifehacker.com/326824/turn-on-auto+complete-on-google

For example, when I start to type "chloroform" into the google search bar, I get an option for "how to make chloroform" even though I didn't add "how to" to the search. I could have accidentally clicked on it. The thing is, when I start to type in "chlorofil" this doesn't happen. So Cindy would still have to explain away the the exact verbage of the search, as you suggested (Unless she was searching for how to make chlorophyll, as another poster suggested, which...well, why would she?)

So I was guessing that even if Cindy tried to explain it away that way, I doubt there are any records of a chlorophyll search on her comp...regardless of ANY misspelling

entering "poisonous household plants" would work too and more to the point

 

[LambChop]

entering "poisonous household plants" would work too and more to the point

Or, wouldn't it make sense to look up ingested bamboo leaves and it's effect on dogs. And I would think if you were smart enough to know the name of what is in the plant you would know what it can do. She's a nurse.

 

[Gma Kat]

Will the SAO be able to play back / read back portions of any of these depositions in court when each of these yahoos are on the stand?

We all know the lies and twists of the truth, but the jury members may not.

How do they ever get the real truth out of these people, or will they just be "hostile witnesses?"

I'm not sure about FL law but I believe any statements they have made, whether under oath or not, can be used to impeach them and show their lack of crediblity to the jury.

 

[Gma Kat]

Or, wouldn't it make sense to look up ingested bamboo leaves and it's effect on dogs. And I would think if you were smart enough to know the name of what is in the plant you would know what it can do. She's a nurse.

yeah, a nurse who doesn't call a vet when she thinks her dogs are eating poisonous plants....

 

[thedeviledadvocate]

I was deposed once awhile back involving a construction accident. I was told by my lawyer to answer yes or no as often as possible, and do not elaborate. If you don't know or can't remember say I don't know, or I can't remember. But above all else DO NOT LIE.
After reading all 3 depositions, I did find a number of discrepancies, but overall I think the Anthony's tried to be truthful. Yes, there were a number of items I find it hard to believe they didn't remember, but a lot of the questions asked were of things that happened months ago and some were over a year ago. So I will have to be a little forgiving of some of there memory lapses.
I personally did not find the number of discrepancies disturbing. Nor do I find the number of I don't knows and I can't remember terribly disturbing. They are human after all, and we all forget things, and we all make mistakes.
I am pretty sure in court the prosecution will make them pay for any mistakes they made.