Discuss Max's death here - Thread #1.

[CDS22]

What minor would that be? Minor XZ's family is anxious for information. If she needs protecting, why would they want to get the information out in public view?

I'm not sure they realize what sort of information would come out.

IMO

 

[SunnieRN]

I'm not sure they realize what sort of information would come out.

IMO

If you don't mind, I would like to hear you elaborate on this thought. Are you speaking about XZ and information concerning her?

 

[MyBelle]

I have a very hard time imagining anyone purposely hurting MS. He was only 6 years old. I can't see how anyone could have hurt him, however, the explanation that has been provided just flat out doesn't make any sense and has been proven incorrect. (Thanks Val Hall, hinkymeter)

Then we have the RZ case. I see Rebecca's family FIGHTING for answer's and Max's family basically silent. IMO, that is very strange. If I had the financial resources that JS has, I would certainly want a better understanding of what has happened to both my girlfriend and son. In fact, I would be screaming from the tree tops demanding to know what happened. He loved them both. It was quoted that JS said at her funeral he didn't think she would commit suicide. (radaronline), Why, when all of this doesn't add up, is he "accepting" the scenarios provided?

I want the person who has the capacity and wealth to get answers to stand up and help get them. That may be wrong but it is how I feel. IMO

I think JS does accept the suicide ruling. I know of several suicides that family and friends didn't see coming.

All the wealth in the world won't buy answers if they no longer exist, especially when it comes to Max's fall and what really happened.

JMO

 

[Rhyme & Reason]

Yes, but if he made the hits and bumps on the way down as depicted in the illustrations the police provided, he wouldn't have the velocity to have the injuries he did, IMO. If you look at the link on the Hinky Meter posted earlier in this thread, it will have some info and equations about velocity.

I've read all the Hinky Meter reports, thanks. Been a fan a them for quite some time. However, you keep stating as fact that max flew UP in the air from below the chandelier.

 

[Rhyme & Reason]

I have a very hard time imagining anyone purposely hurting MS. He was only 6 years old. I can't see how anyone could have hurt him, however, the explanation that has been provided just flat out doesn't make any sense and has been proven incorrect. (Thanks Val Hall, hinkymeter)

Then we have the RZ case. I see Rebecca's family FIGHTING for answer's and Max's family basically silent. IMO, that is very strange. If I had the financial resources that JS has, I would certainly want a better understanding of what has happened to both my girlfriend and son. In fact, I would be screaming from the tree tops demanding to know what happened. He loved them both. It was quoted that JS said at her funeral he didn't think she would commit suicide. (radaronline), Why, when all of this doesn't add up, is he "accepting" the scenarios provided?

I want the person who has the capacity and wealth to get answers to stand up and help get them. That may be wrong but it is how I feel. IMO

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[CDS22]

I've read all the Hinky Meter reports, thanks. Been a fan a them for quite some time. However, you keep stating as fact that max flew UP in the air from below the chandelier.

I've never stated MS flew UP from below the chandelier. Let's not be ridiculous here.

 

[Morag]

Originally Posted by Morag
What minor would that be? Minor XZ's family is anxious for information. If she needs protecting, why would they want to get the information out in public view?

I'm not sure they realize what sort of information would come out.

IMO

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by this. Do you think that she has withheld information from her family and their attorney?

 

[CDS22]

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by this. Do you think that she has withheld information from her family and their attorney?

Everyone's family has skeletons in the closet. When you open an investigation wide open, there's no telling what will come out.

IMO

 

[SunnieRN]

I truly do not think Rebecca's family cares about skeletons. They want to be assured that what has been decided, is in fact the truth.

 

[CocoChanel]

Everyone's family has skeletons in the closet. When you open an investigation wide open, there's no telling what will come out.

IMO

Would you agree that EVERYONE in your quote includes JS too?

 

[rosemary]

Everyone's family has skeletons in the closet. When you open an investigation wide open, there's no telling what will come out.

IMO

If Rebecca's family didn't want any hidden family skeletons to be revealed or exposed, why would they want to hire a forensic psychologist to analyze the case then? A psychological profile can reveal a lot of things, both good and bad, about the victim and his/her family.

 

[CDS22]

If Rebecca's family didn't want any hidden family skeletons to be revealed or exposed, why would they want to hire a forensic psychologist to analyze the case then? A psychological profile can reveal a lot of things, both good and bad, about the victim and his/her family.

I sincerely think they don't realize what they're in for, and I also think they are gearing up for a civil suit which a lawyer might have convinced them would be easy to win. I don't think they are thinking of the implications for XZ.

IMO

 

[stilettos]

Everyone's family has skeletons in the closet. When you open an investigation wide open, there's no telling what will come out.

IMO

Yes, this is true..and exactly why Mr. Schacknai immediately hired a PR firm, PI and I believe a very well connected attorney for his brother. IMO, Mr. Schacknai is the one that may have the most skeletons in his closet...including but not limited to when his older daughter was last in his Coronado home and how, on what and exactly what time she flew home from there on the day his son died. Including why his brother was rushed out of the area and sent who knows where with a muzzle on him. IF there is info in the family of the victim Rebecca...let that come forward as well. The preceding is as always, MOO.

 

[CDS22]

Yes, this is true..and exactly why Mr. Schacknai immediately hired a PR firm, PI and I believe a very well connected attorney for his brother. IMO, Mr. Schacknai is the one that may have the most skeletons in his closet...including but not limited to when his older daughter was last in his Coronado home and how, on what and exactly what time she flew home from there on the day his son died. Including why his brother was rushed out of the area and sent who knows where with a muzzle on him. IF there is info in the family of the victim Rebecca...let that come forward as well. The preceding is as always, MOO.

Okay, just deleted what I wrote. I realize to which PR firm you're referring.

JS has a business to run, and a family to support, althought there's one less family member now due to tragic events. I can see why he'd hire a PR firm because there's been so many false things said about him.

JMO

 

[CDS22]

Yes, this is true..and exactly why Mr. Schacknai immediately hired a PR firm, PI and I believe a very well connected attorney for his brother. IMO, Mr. Schacknai is the one that may have the most skeletons in his closet...including but not limited to when his older daughter was last in his Coronado home and how, on what and exactly what time she flew home from there on the day his son died. Including why his brother was rushed out of the area and sent who knows where with a muzzle on him. IF there is info in the family of the victim Rebecca...let that come forward as well. The preceding is as always, MOO.

According to police reports, GS wasn't in the house at the time of the accident. The stories about GS being in the house were from people gossiping, never from officials themselves. I believe the mix up happened because RZ referred to XZ as her daughter (who knows, maybe she is her daughter), and MS as her son. People assumed that meant GS. They also assumed DS was around because RZ referred to herself as MS's mother and JS's wife. Kind of weird, if you ask me, and also not very truthful.

JMO

 

[jjenny]

According to police reports, GS wasn't in the house at the time of the accident. The stories about GS being in the house were from people gossiping, never from officials themselves. I believe the mix up happened because RZ referred to XZ as her daughter (who knows, maybe she is her daughter), and MS as her son. People assumed that meant GS. They also assumed DS was around because RZ referred to herself as MS's mother and JS's wife. Kind of weird, if you ask me, and also not very truthful.

JMO

The story about GS being in town comes from her friend who said she was in Coronado but left before paramedics arrived. And it amazes me that in this instance you claim to believe the police reports but still argue the accident didn't happen as police reports say it did.

 

[rosemary]

I sincerely think they don't realize what they're in for, and I also think they are gearing up for a civil suit which a lawyer might have convinced them would be easy to win. I don't think they are thinking of the implications for XZ.

IMO

The implications for XZ? what exactly are the implications for XZ? Do you know something about Rebecca's younger sister that the rest of us are not aware of? If there is, I'm sure the Zahau family are smart enough to know what the risks/implications are if they get this case reopened. And what makes you think that they are gearing up for a civil suit? Just because they are seeking answers regarding the circumstances of Rebecca's death doesn't mean that they are after any sort of financial compensation. There is nothing at all to suggest that they are even thinking of doing that imo.

 

[CDS22]

The story about GS being in town comes from her friend who said she was in Coronado but left before paramedics arrived. And it amazes me that in this instance you claim to believe the police reports but still argue the accident didn't happen as police reports say it did.

A friend's statement isn't very meaningful compared to an official report, now is it?

I believe some aspects of the police reports (who was in the room when they entered, for example), but that doesn't mean I agree with their conclusions, or believe that they've included every iota of information in publicly released reports.

 

[rosemary]

According to police reports, GS wasn't in the house at the time of the accident. The stories about GS being in the house were from people gossiping, never from officials themselves. I believe the mix up happened because RZ referred to XZ as her daughter (who knows, maybe she is her daughter), and MS as her son. People assumed that meant GS. They also assumed DS was around because RZ referred to herself as MS's mother and JS's wife. Kind of weird, if you ask me, and also not very truthful.

JMO

When did Rebecca ever refer to herself as being Jonah's wife? I'd like to see some evidence please.

And no, the reason people thought that GS was in Coronado was because one of GS' own friends said she had been staying there till Monday morning:

Prchal said he is friends with Shacknai’s eldest daughter, 14-year-old Gabriele. He said he has talked with her several times since the death at her father’s home, mostly to make sure she is OK.

Prchal said Gabriele has not talked a lot about Zahau’s death or the injury to her 6-year-old brother. “It’s kind of intimate,” he said. “She doesn’t want to talk about them.”

Gabriele was in Coronado until Monday morning, when she returned to her South Carolina home, Prchal said. She was gone by the time emergency crews responded to calls that her brother had fallen near the mansion’s grand interior staircase.

 

[CDS22]

When did Rebecca ever refer to herself as being Jonah's wife? I'd like to see some evidence please.

And no, the reason people thought that GS was in Coronado was because one of GS' own friends said she had been staying there till Monday morning:

Then you could also believe the dog guy's claims that XZ is RZ's daughter.