Discussion of Audio of Casey Anthony's jail visits released

[Chilly Willy]

Yep! The facts are quite convincing that since at least from March (maybe before) until now, KC's goal has been to get away from her family.

She's so full of that baloney that she's being forced to eat. She tells George he's been the best father and perfect grandfather - what about telling people that George was abusive?

 

[ElizaAvalon]

OMG, I just cannot believe Casey!

In some ways I feel more protected here than outside.

That's hilarious.

She is happier in jail because she only has to answer questions when her parents come and visit!!!

 

[Winnts]

And what on earth was Lee speaking of when he kept saying about the situation is different now than it was then. What was he referencing??

 

[Winnts]

OMG, I just cannot believe Casey!

In some ways I feel more protected here than outside.

Yep I caught that too. She seems quite content and 'safe' in jail with her little protective custody. Like she's too good for the other inmates.

 

[Chilly Willy]

Oh gosh....Cindy's losing it and crying on the phone. That poor woman. How can Casey watch that and comment on how thin Cindy is getting, but not feel any guilt????

 

[nancy botwin]

Oh gosh....Cindy's losing it and crying on the phone. That poor woman. How can Casey watch that and comment on how think Cindy is getting, but not feel any guilt????

In the July 30th visit? That part was really sad to watch-- then after she cries, Cindy's voice sounds really quiet and flat. I think this video reveals Cindy's bottoming out point-- I would imagine this is about the time she sought psych help. She sounds completely broken.

Casey is a monster. When I watch these videos, I wish I could reach into the split-screen and pull Cindy and George out of there and do something to take care of them.

 

[amysmom]

And what's with the discussion about Patrick "having contacts/people on the outside?" This makes no sense at all.
Geez, Where's my Orphan Annie decoder !?

I'm not sure if this was ever dicussed here but Patrick is a neighbor of the little girl that held the first vigil & got very close to KA..This info came directly from her grandmother on another site a few weeks ago.

She also said they don't know him that well yet he gave them a (used?) computer..Why?

Supposedly, there's no connection to his visit to KC & what Dakota did for Caylee & the A's sometime after that because they had no clue he knew KA or anything about his jail visit.

I feel this is just one more very strange thing in a very strange case to think about.

 

[Chilly Willy]

In the July 30th visit? That part was really sad to watch-- then after she cries, Cindy's voice sounds really quiet and flat. I think this video reveals Cindy's bottoming out point-- I would imagine this is about the time she sought psych help. She sounds completely broken.

Casey is a monster. When I watch these videos, I wish I could reach into the split-screen and pull Cindy and George out of there and do something to take care of them.

Yes, the July 30th visit. It aggravates me how Casey remains so calm while Cindy is crying. If I saw my mom break down that way, I'd be bawling right along with her.

 

[maur33]

After Lee's goes on and on (in code no less) about nothing, Casey says "That makes perfect sense". LOL NO WAY did she have any clue what he was talking about!

OMG..you all are killing me

I don't think inspector gadget could figure out what the heck he was talking about, absolutely..definitely NOT casey. These video's have brought the funny bone tonight.

 

[bonjoviblonde]

OMG - something just crossed my mind - please tell me that what I'm thinking isn't a possibility. Remember in one of George's interviews with the FBI when he was describing the location and shape of the "stain" found in KC's trunk and he described it as being right in the center "BECAUSE that's where the spare tire cover is" ???? "BECAUSE" .... that struck me as odd right away - is it possible that Caylee WAS in the trunk at the towyard - underneath the spare tire cover in the space where the spare tire goes?

I have always thought this was a good possibility. Didn't George have to vomit after talking about this in his police "interview"? Maybe him recalling looking into the trunk brought back the vivid memory of finding poor little Caylee there and it made him physically sick (which is understandable). I think it's a really good possibility he found her in the wheel well once he got the car home. He could have seen the stain and knew he had to get home to look in there. Didn't Cindy say she went to work for awhile? Maybe she really did and George encouraged her to so he could do whatever he had to do.

Also maybe George really did go to work that night because he was in a state of shock or panic, almost like in "cover up" mode. Like he was thinking he'd better go to work so no one will suspect something was wrong (seeing how he just buried his dead granddaughter), when the real suspect/odd thing to is after smelling that awful smell and having missing family would be to go to work.

 

[manatee]

Has anyone here heard Charles Manson talk? He sounds really smart initially until you realize that he is completly "wacked"! KC comes across the same way. She looks fine and sounds fine until you realize that we are listening to a "mommy" who's two year old allegedly has been taken from her...yeah, and I have some swamped land in the everglades you should purchase.

 

[yolorado]

Casey sound so insincere when she's crying about wanting to go home to be with her parents. She's telling them what she thinks they want to hear, not what she really feels.

For someone who was so desperate to go home, once she got there, she sure spent a lot of time out of it with Ho-Zay.

 

[manatee]

For someone who was so desperate to go home, she sure spend a lot of time out of it with Ho-Zay.

yes, let's talk about that in the JB thread...many know how I feel about their relationship

 

[kh1967]

Yep I caught that too. She seems quite content and 'safe' in jail with her little protective custody. Like she's too good for the other inmates.

Casey is loving protective custody. She gets the special treatment while in protective custody. She doesnt have to be with the common criminals. She can order specialty items with the money that was donated to her. Snack on her favorite foods. She is the belle of the ball in jail just like she was at home. She was even speaking to the guards during the interview like they were her friends. I would love to see her be in general population and face the music.

 

[kh1967]

OMG..you all are killing me

I don't think inspector gadget could figure out what the heck he was talking about, absolutely..definitely NOT casey. These video's have brought the funny bone tonight.

Maybe I am wrong, but isnt inspector gadget an accountant? With all the money problems in that family, how on earth did that work itself out?!

 

[bonjoviblonde]

Finally! I am back home and can watch more of this videos. I am uh...suffering through the GA and KC one. The one where he TOTALLY FLIRTS with his daughter when he gets there...ewwww.

The part where GA talks about "maybe we were all too domineering" and how they didn't let her be the best mother she could be....cause that causes kidnapping, right? These people slip all the time. Seriously.

When George says those kinds of things, I take it as him realizing the "reason" KC killed Caylee. He KNOWS she killed her. I think he's just trying to figure out why and he thinks it was because of jealousy or rage. Maybe after the June 15 fight with Cindy. I'm sure a lot of things went on in that house in regards to mothering Caylee and now George is looking back and realizing this is why she was killed by KC.

I don't read too much into the Hi Gorgeous comments though. I don't really see it as creepy or flirting. Some people just talk that way. My grandpa ALWAYS would say Hi Beautiful or Hi Gorgeous when he saw me or my mother or my sisters. His whole family was that way. There was nothing creepy or weird about him at all. Just a way to say hello to a loved family member. I have plenty to say about George and Cindy but that's just one thing I don't find all that odd. I think he's also just trying to be extra sweet with her in order to maybe get her to talk more, which doesn't work. I think George knows she killed her, maybe even found her body, and he would like for KC to confess and for it all to come out in the open. I think he'd even confess to whatever his part was but wants her to do it first so he isn't the one to send his daughter up the river.

 

[maur33]

Maybe I am wrong, but isnt inspector gadget an accountant? With all the money problems in that family, how on earth did that work itself out?!

I don't really know what he does for a living, I know a few here said he was an accountant but i can't confirm that.

 

[RevCrim]

Okay, GA looked like he was in total pain just being there. Not interested in anything KC says, but has to appear like the caring dad.

CA- WOW ! If my MOM looked at me like that, I'd
run to my cell and never want to come out. CA is not buying one word.

Yeah, this is a normal family, Oh Yeah !

 

[irishbosoxfan]

My notes on the Lee tapes for those who couldn't hear them

Lee July 28-Part 1

http://www.wftv.com/video/18206783/index.html

Confirm that they sent messages back and forth thru Jose

Then goes into "code talk"

Starts talking about 3 people that KC had spoken to and texted on the day Caylee went missing prior to reaching out to mom and about thepotential for them being involved--says she had "numerous communications" with them--one she had 2 calls and 2 texts the other she spoke with much more frequently--KC says they both need attention

I got the feeling that we were supposed to think that the people were supposed to be Jeff and Juliet but I'm not buying that

Lee asks about phone calls she made the next day around midnight the 17th and about a few calls she made to a food place and KC said it was Tonys roommate that she let him use her phone

Lee goes on about her search he said "out and about" he asked her when was it and KC said "during the day,none of it would have been at night whatsoever"

Lee asks about the other cellphone KC said noone bought it for her,doesn't know when she bought it but she was sure it was sometime in the last three months an that the "kidnapper" had no preference for a phone that they called her on

Then they go back to the third person mentioned above--Lee said she had a long conversation with them after lunchtime and prior/about two hours before reaching out to mom and refers to this person as a she from there he then goes on to say "I already know your feelings about this person,it's noted" So could this be Jesse??

Asks about the "Full Sail Crew" when they met Caylee and KC says "last week of May,first week of June" then Lee asks about the last time they seen Caylee and says "Prior to her uhm...prior to the day she went missing" and KC says "the first week of June probably after moms birthday"

Lee then asks if he was to look for the nannys place "would it be advantageous for me to look in places familiar to another friend you may have?"
KC="That's be pretty much on the money"
Lee="Down to the same complex of any of your friends?"
KC="Within the same area I do have a friend that lives in this complex or neighborhood"
Lee="Would that include any of the people I referenced earlier?"
KC="No"

They then go on to talking about Zannys area codes 407/321/954 and KC says she got calls from "down south,possibly Miami,possibly Jacksonville---thruout Florida,scattered calls up the East Coast"
Lee then asks about area code 623,"where he was for a month" and KC says "No that's MH"

They talk about whether the kidnapper has resources outside of Orlando(yes),outside of Florida(yes) then Lee asks if they have resources "up as far north as places I've recently been to or up in that region?"
KC="yes"
Lee="specifically for people that I've worked for and been involved with last year,you know,in a particular area for football and stuff. Should I focus on that state as well?"
KC="Possibly yes" then laughs

WEIRD!!
Lee="Everything has changed from a month ago,that even if we've been used to or acting a certain way or following a certain thing that those rules may have changed and what I'm looking for is some form of direction with you knowing are we still working off the same time,the same instances,the same people or the same areas---If any of that should be changed let me know because there's only so much you can do from there---I want to be able to pick up where you left off"



Lee July 28-Part 2

http://www.wftv.com/video/18206946/index.html

Talking about the charities and fundraisers
Audio cuts out for a bit
When it comes back on KC says she'd like to thank the charities for helping and to keep Caylee and the family in their prayers and if anyone has any information to come forward "without haste" and to tell the person/s who have her "I love her,I want her home" blah blah blah

 

[momtective]

My notes on the Lee tapes for those who couldn't hear them

Lee July 28-Part 1

http://www.wftv.com/video/18206783/index.html

Confirm that they sent messages back and forth thru Jose

Then goes into "code talk"

Starts talking about 3 people that KC had spoken to and texted on the day Caylee went missing prior to reaching out to mom and about thepotential for them being involved--says she had "numerous communications" with them--one she had 2 calls and 2 texts the other she spoke with much more frequently--KC says they both need attention

I got the feeling that we were supposed to think that the people were supposed to be Jeff and Juliet but I'm not buying that

Lee asks about phone calls she made the next day around midnight the 17th and about a few calls she made to a food place and KC said it was Tonys roommate that she let him use her phone

Lee goes on about her search he said "out and about" he asked her when was it and KC said "during the day,none of it would have been at night whatsoever"

Lee asks about the other cellphone KC said noone bought it for her,doesn't know when she bought it but she was sure it was sometime in the last three months an that the "kidnapper" had no preference for a phone that they called her on

Then they go back to the third person mentioned above--Lee said she had a long conversation with them after lunchtime and prior/about two hours before reaching out to mom and refers to this person as a she from there he then goes on to say "I already know your feelings about this person,it's noted" So could this be Jesse??

Asks about the "Full Sail Crew" when they met Caylee and KC says "last week of May,first week of June" then Lee asks about the last time they seen Caylee and says "Prior to her uhm...prior to the day she went missing" and KC says "the first week of June probably after moms birthday"

Lee then asks if he was to look for the nannys place "would it be advantageous for me to look in places familiar to another friend you may have?"
KC="That's be pretty much on the money"
Lee="Down to the same complex of any of your friends?"
KC="Within the same area I do have a friend that lives in this complex or neighborhood"
Lee="Would that include any of the people I referenced earlier?"
KC="No"

They then go on to talking about Zannys area codes 407/321/954 and KC says she got calls from "down south,possibly Miami,possibly Jacksonville---thruout Florida,scattered calls up the East Coast"
Lee then asks about area code 623,"where he was for a month" and KC says "No that's MH"

They talk about whether the kidnapper has resources outside of Orlando(yes),outside of Florida(yes) then Lee asks if they have resources "up as far north as places I've recently been to or up in that region?"
KC="yes"
Lee="specifically for people that I've worked for and been involved with last year,you know,in a particular area for football and stuff. Should I focus on that state as well?"
KC="Possibly yes" then laughs

WEIRD!!
Lee="Everything has changed from a month ago,that even if we've been used to or acting a certain way or following a certain thing that those rules may have changed and what I'm looking for is some form of direction with you knowing are we still working off the same time,the same instances,the same people or the same areas---If any of that should be changed let me know because there's only so much you can do from there---I want to be able to pick up where you left off"



Lee July 28-Part 2

http://www.wftv.com/video/18206946/index.html

Talking about the charities and fundraisers
Audio cuts out for a bit
When it comes back on KC says she'd like to thank the charities for helping and to keep Caylee and the family in their prayers and if anyone has any information to come forward "without haste" and to tell the person/s who have her "I love her,I want her home" blah blah blah

When exactly did KC ever reach out to Cindy? IIRC Cindy found KC at TonE's and dragged her butt home. I don't recall KC evr reaching out to Cindy but rather pushing her away.