Discussion of the Transcriptions of the Testimony of Jodi Arias

[AngelWings444]

So, Jodi is telling her story about the frist time at the Hugues and that things went to far. I'm sorry but Jodi let it happen, she could of stopped it, but she didn't. Don't blame Travis. He was a healthy young man and they like to see how far the can go, and Travis found out she wouldn't say no or stop. But of course that will be his fault.

Is the sex at the Hughes house on the sex tape, admitted to by Travis? Otherwise, I don't buy it. I find it hard to believe that according to JA, Travis barely talked to her, then they threw their clothes off and had mad sex, with an adjoining wall to the Hughes bedroom. Sounds made up, so does the hotel meet up. They stayed in and watched Deal or No Deal. Sure..and I have that bridge which is still available. :wink:

 

[Nali87]

What I think she *meant* was that if she released it and then the higher Court said she shouldn't, the damage (if any) would have already been done by releasing it. Given what we heard it seems there was no real damage to be done, but of course the DT would have gone back to them screaming that her error had destroyed the case.

The only surprise to me was that she released the sidebars as well. Given that all the rest of those have been put on ice, I never expected to see those released yet. So in the end JSS actually released more than we expected.

Damn this iphone and it small keyboard! I could have refreshed the page and saved myself the trouble. Lol.

 

[bsk]

Damn this iphone and it small keyboard! I could have refreshed the page and saved myself the trouble. Lol.

And gotten some sleep. I thought it was funny that we had the same exact thought at the very same time. :loveyou:

 

[Nali87]

So, Jodi is telling her story about the frist time at the Hugues and that things went to far. I'm sorry but Jodi let it happen, she could of stopped it, but she didn't. Don't blame Travis. He was a healthy young man and they like to see how far the can go, and Travis found out she wouldn't say no or stop. But of course that will be his fault.

Eh. If it happened, I wouldn't be surprised if JA did the seducing. "Omg have you done it in a public place? I am so excited right now. *fake throaty moan*"

Blegh.

 

[geevee]

In the Oct. 30th transcript (beginning on page 72) she says her and Bobbie broke up and she was still working at Dennys (in Yreka), at first she says she was living at her Grandma's but remembers she was actually staying with a girlfriend 'for a few months' - in Montague, where Bobby lived. He came to visit and an argument happened and he choked her, maybe he was arguing with her about why she came to live in his town, after they were broken up? Sorta (or a lot) like when she moved to Mesa after she and T were no longer dating?

 

[AngelWings444]

In the Oct. 30th transcript (beginning on page 72) she says her and Bobbie broke up and she was still working at Dennys (in Yreka), at first she says she was living at her Grandma's but remembers she was actually staying with a girlfriend 'for a few months' - in Montague, where Bobby lived. He came to visit and an argument happened and he choked her, maybe he was arguing with her about why she came to live in his town, after they were broken up? Sorta (or a lot) like when she moved to Mesa after she and T were no longer dating?

I think she moved to Medford when they weren't dating either. Seems to be her MO. Move to your ex's town. She even went back to Costa Rico and apparently Victor Arias had split too. Didn't she say she moved to work where Matt worked when they weren't dating either? I am so confused. For her age, she sure had a ton of jobs, boyfriends, and moved quite often. Unstable and just Cray-Cray. She latched onto Travis so fast, he didn't see it coming. Blindsided. When he got to know the real JA, it was too late. :cry:

 

[elementary]

Is the sex at the Hughes house on the sex tape, admitted to by Travis? Otherwise, I don't buy it. I find it hard to believe that according to JA, Travis barely talked to her, then they threw their clothes off and had mad sex, with an adjoining wall to the Hughes bedroom. Sounds made up, so does the hotel meet up. They stayed in and watched Deal or No Deal. Sure..and I have that bridge which is still available. :wink:

I don't buy it either. She's building on the story that TA was abusive, and there were signs from the very beginning, like blowing hot and cold- having sex with her then ignoring her. She actually calls it a 'red flag' which shows she's been reading or been coached. It also builds up the theme that she was his 'dirty little secret'.

The most execrable story to me was that Travis had sex with her after a week or so, and within the context of questioning, absolutely implying that he was also a religious and moral (and lascivious) hypocrite. From the beginning. In other words, that was his real character (and not the wonderful and flawed man his friends and girlfriends and family knew- as if).

 

[Kamille]

Eh. If it happened, I wouldn't be surprised if JA did the seducing. "Omg have you done it in a public place? I am so excited right now. *fake throaty moan*"

Blegh.

I have no doubt that every sexual encounter that they had was suggested/manipulated and choreographed by JA. And with her encouragement, TA started to get a little more experimental in trying to keep up with her insatiable appetite and manipulations by trying to "talk the talk" with her as seen in the sex tape. Pretty heady stuff for a "30yr old virgin", save for a bit of "ordinary" sex with one previous girlfriend. JA had TA hook, line and sinker on the second outing when she got him to follow her to the park near the Starbucks on his way through her town after having known her for less than 2 weeks.

MOO

 

[Meemaw12]

I saw two names I think have been mentioned in texts

Steve = Steve Copland
Michelle no last name

Don't know if we knew that prior


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[Meemaw12]

Steve is ja friend
Michelle worked for PPl


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[KPinMN]

BBM: This is where JA messed up and tried to stop herself but it was out. At the beginning of her testimony, she states that she left because of abuse and she was done. Something like that. Then, she states that it was because she didn't want to live "under their rules." As soon as she said it, her previous testimony is worthless. She left because she didn't want to follow the rules. She dropped out of school for a guy. Nothing her parents could say or do would have stopped her. They could no longer "parent" her. She was an out of control teenager who didn't want to follow the rules and moved out in the middle of the night. JA was not abused. If she had been, she would have been able to give numerous accounts of graphic testimony, which she doesn't, because it wasn't abuse. If it immediately stood out to me, it did to the jury as well. JMO

I don't buy JA's abuse story at all, it sounds like a fairly normal childhood when you look at it knowing she significantly exaggerates almost always.

That said, I had an abusive childhood (so I've been told by counseling). It wasn't anywhere near the horrific abuse cases I've heard about, including TA's. The thing is I can't give a ton of examples because I remember very little of my childhood. The thing is unlike JA if I wad recounting any of those memories it wouldn't be flowery and descriptive because I've coped by blocking out quite a bit of it and as a result I'm not really emotionally connected to those experiences.

The point is this is what I see as JA reading how an abused person may behave, but not translating fully it in her behavior because she simply is acting out a made up story. This is something she's done all her life, researched and tried to be things she never was. She has BPD and given the severity I don't doubt she's also psychopathic.

 

[Kamille]

I see she started to screw up with the testimony about DB's son towards the end of day 1. She claimed that they moved to Palm Desert so that his son could live with his mother and that he spent the summer living with them but went back to living with his mother during the week once the school year commenced. Then she proceeded to talk about how they specifically moved to a good school district because the son's mother lived in a bad one. Didn't make any sense and JW just cut her off. :waitasec:

 

[bsk]

I don't buy it either. She's building on the story that TA was abusive, and there were signs from the very beginning, like blowing hot and cold- having sex with her then ignoring her. She actually calls it a 'red flag' which shows she's been reading or been coached. It also builds up the theme that she was his 'dirty little secret'.

The most execrable story to me was that Travis had sex with her after a week or so, and within the context of questioning, absolutely implying that he was also a religious and moral (and lascivious) hypocrite. From the beginning. In other words, that was his real character (and not the wonderful and flawed man his friends and girlfriends and family knew- as if).

I guess if the COA hadn't cut her off she would have been talking about Jekyll and Hyde soon.

 

[Kamille]

In the Oct. 30th transcript (beginning on page 72) she says her and Bobbie broke up and she was still working at Dennys (in Yreka), at first she says she was living at her Grandma's but remembers she was actually staying with a girlfriend 'for a few months' - in Montague, where Bobby lived. He came to visit and an argument happened and he choked her, maybe he was arguing with her about why she came to live in his town, after they were broken up? Sorta (or a lot) like when she moved to Mesa after she and T were no longer dating?

She sure had a lot of people to sponge off of in towns all over CA didn't she?

 

[Val1]

No idea, but my friend's daughter, who is now 29, was diagnosed about 8 yrs ago with BPD and I tell you, at 3 or 4 years of age her behavior and tantrums and drama were in full force, and far beyond the normal kid level. I remember her nickname used to be "Sarah Bernhardt" because there was always drama and lots of crying. It continued as she grew up. She's never held a steady job, she never finished college, she goes from boyfriend to boyfriend, living together. Sad. It's just not curable.

And still no excuse to butcher anyone, even if she regretted it after she got caught...

 

[bsk]

I don't buy JA's abuse story at all, it sounds like a fairly normal childhood when you look at it knowing she significantly exaggerates almost always.

That said, I had an abusive childhood (so I've been told by counseling). It wasn't anywhere near the horrific abuse cases I've heard about, including TA's. The thing is I can't give a ton of examples because I remember very little of my childhood. The thing is unlike JA if I wad recounting any of those memories it wouldn't be flowery and descriptive because I've coped by blocking out quite a bit of it and as a result I'm not really emotionally connected to those experiences.

The point is this is what I see as JA reading how an abused person may behave, but not translating fully it in her behavior because she simply is acting out a made up story. This is something she's done all her life, researched and tried to be things she never was. She has BPD and given the severity I don't doubt she's also psychopathic.

I guess we'll never know how much of her family abuse story was real vs fabricated, with the fabricated parts no doubt meant to sound worse than what we know Travis really did experience.

 

[geevee]

I have no doubt that every sexual encounter that they had was suggested/manipulated and choreographed by JA. And with her encouragement, TA started to get a little more experimental in trying to keep up with her insatiable appetite and manipulations by trying to "talk the talk" with her as seen in the sex tape. Pretty heady stuff for a "30yr old virgin", save for a bit of "ordinary" sex with one previous girlfriend. JA had TA hook, line and sinker on the second outing when she got him to follow her to the park near the Starbucks on his way through her town after having known her for less than 2 weeks.

MOO

Didn't he say in the sex tape that he didn't even masturbate until she came into his life with her KY jelly and braids? JM made a pretty big deal out of that during her testimony, wish I could recall which day that was, I'd like to revisit that video, I think JA (or the DT) somehow got him off track but I can't recall how.

 

[mydirtysecret]

I'm 50/50 on cmja retaking the stand. On one hand, she's a controlling lying liar who likes to manipulate nobody can tell her lies more convincingly to the jury than the lying liar herself. On the other hand she's fiercely stubborn and would go take the stand kicking and screaming because the court is telling her she has to. In the end. I think her desire to be a controlling lying liar will override her stubbornness. That's if of course, secret Stephens even makes her.

 

[Becky Sharp]

Sorry, this has no doubt already been A'd & A'd. Has there been any hint of a transcript showing that in high school Jodi got "A's and B's, mostly" and that she was taking an AP class her junior year? Surely she wouldn't lie about something that could be so easily disproven... but then again: Jodi.

edit to add: Or maybe a record of the 911 call when Bobbie was trying to break her arm after he (like all the men in her life) choked her? Aren't there records of 911 calls?

I bet when Jodi does finally die, it will be from autoerotic asphyxiation. Just a hunch.

BBM
When I read that remark by her I thought "suuuure, Jodi, suuuure." It's not just that JeinsteinA would of course never admit to anything merely average, like a C, and of course she'd never ever admit a D or F. What really struck me is that "mostly." In her way of thinking, the "mostly" means (to her) that she's not exactly lying--she's leaving wiggle room. As for her even considering that her academic transcripts might be checked, I doubt it. She has no problem ignoring reality, and when confronted with concrete proof, like a printed and officially signed and sealed school record, she'd just blithely deny its validity with lies. "The principal changed my grades because he didn't like me because I knew more than my teachers . . ." or something like that. Or the ninjas altered it.

 

[Wolfpack Fan]

So, Jodi is telling her story about the frist time at the Hugues and that things went to far. I'm sorry but Jodi let it happen, she could of stopped it, but she didn't. Don't blame Travis. He was a healthy young man and they like to see how far the can go, and Travis found out she wouldn't say no or stop. But of course that will be his fault.

I really think Jodi was the aggressor, not the other way around. If Travis was the aggressor, I wonder what Jodi said in the phone calls, texts, e-mails, etc. that let him know that she would be a willing participant. They barely knew each other, and they were at the home of Sky and Chris Hughes. He didn't try any of those things with the other girls he dated. He didn't even kiss Mimi after their date. He didn't try anything with Lisa, either.