Discussions on Formal Sentencing Hearing - Jodi Arias #4

[ohreally]

BBM JA was convicted of first degree murder. IMO that is justice. It is not as if JA is walking free. The Alexanders are lucky that AZ has the death penalty as an option even though their prayers (for the DP) were not answered. MOO

The Alexander's have a right to what they believe is justice, (within the guidelines of the law) and by their comments nothing less than DP is justice to them. This is their right, and the law agrees with it or their wouldn't of been the last part retried. If it is investigated and there was a stealth juror on the jury, then their rights were taken away from the. It doesn't what we think is justice. It matters what the law and the Alexander's believe. IMO

 

[FinallyRegistered]

Where are you watching that trial? Is HLN carrying any new trials?
Thanks,
Terri

It's on Croaker Queen's Youtube channel and there are 51 videos in a playlist.

Summary: In Florida, a young black guy and his white girlfriend go on a weekend drug bender at a motel, decide to steal all of the furniture in the motel, leave because cops are coming, get pulled over, shoot and kill a female deputy who pulls them over, then they leave that scene and begin a car chase. This is his death penalty trial.

WS is acting weird but this shortcut may work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-reJ0HwXPbI&list=PLppItnJz8XqgEs8VPM6BBxqCbTa6ykiqj

 

[Steft50]

They use them for our county jail where I am at. They are set up at a different location than the county jail, several blocks away.

 

[ZsaZsa]

i also notice when you disagree with someone that automatically makes you a 'hater'. i question jodi's innocence, oooh i'm a hater! she called that news reporter that just for asking her tough questions.

Well at least she is not calling us "no-life bloggers" like Cindy Anthony........lol

 

[ICit]

Then maybe she is on their *insert bad word* list. She plead guilty, so how would they think the Innocence Project could help her anyway??? The word delusional comes to mind.

Innocence Project will not take any case where the criminal is claiming self defense!

 

[Val1]

I think that was another rumor and honestly with everything going on and the fact if LE is investigating (I am not sure on this) they will question the jurors and not so sure they should be doing interviews. That said...if it is out there love to see it.

You mean this one? I haven't seen it because when I go to the link it tells me my region isn't allowed to view it... I guess I need to re-install Hola.:/

http://www.abc15.com/news/region-phoenix-metro/central-phoenix/video-jodi-arias-jurors-weigh-in-on-sentencing

 

[Hatfield]

:seeya: Not sure about the candy -- but you know someone here will find an answer

But the MSM are tweeting about the other photo:

From Troy Hayden:

Troy Hayden ‏@troyhaydenfox10 · 40m40 minutes ago
#JodiArias is able to take video calls from anybody. These pics look like they were snapped by someone making call.

Whether these are new or not, it just goes to show how manipulative JA is.

She is trying to manipulate people into thinking it is a big happy fun time she is having in jail.

Having fun JA? Yea right. Tell us another.

I can even understand her if she is glad she did not get the DP but it is still no reason to be celebrating that you will be carted off to prison for the rest of your life.

JA will never stop her manipulating ways. As soon as she crosses the wrong person she will be educated on how things work in prison and its not by her rules.
Just let Jodi try manipulating the wrong person in prison and then lets see how well she fares.

Does anyone remember when she got into the fight with a cellmate and how she quickly told the guards it was the other person's fault. Let her try that when she is in prison.

Based on watching lots of episodes of "lockup", even if it is another inmate's fault, you had better not snitch and tell the guards that. And you had better not tell the guards the truth just so you get lesser punishment if something goes down. Because it would not be good for your health.

Most prisoners have to live by the "code" and the "rules" of the prison and that means you don't snitch on anyone for any reason. If you do, it is at your own peril.

I even saw one episode where a prisoner was badly beaten and he would not tell the guards who did it to him. He couldnt tell them. If he did, he may get worse in the future.

I have a feeling that Jodi's manipulative and lying ways will be curtailed to a certain degree once she is educated by her peers.

 

[Steve44]

troyhaydenfox10 #JodiArias is able to take video calls from anybody. These pics look like they were snapped by someone making call. http://t.co/njqORwt8DP 3/9/15, 1:44 PM

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news...-launches-video-visitation-platform/18618403/

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/e91...11/06/635509062873281254-jail-video-chat.jpeg

That doesn't look like Arias, and who's the guy, Richard Samuels' single brother?

 

[Tesstruhart]

Just another thought, (thinking a lot lately), when I was working in the jail, I would say 95% or better of the population would say that 'they got the wrong guy". No one was ever guilty of what they were charged with. I always thought it was amazing that the county that I live in could have such an inept police force. If they could just reverse that percentage, they would be phenomenal (snark key off now). Appeals are normal, but the acceptance of said appeal is something altogether different.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Innocence Project will not take any case where the criminal is claiming self defense!

I don't believe that is true but we all know she is not innocent. I think the innocence project is a good thing and has helped innocent people be freed. But no one is going to pick up her. That is a reason I a glad she did not get death. That comes with all those anti dp that really don't care what people did. They just don't want them to die and will fight like heck on their own dime to support people with the DP.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Yes, considering the fact that they didn't even make a decent case for the cause of death.

I respectfully totally disagree. Cause of death is not an element that has to be proven. If that were truly an element the DA had to prove then no 'missing body' cases would ever result in a conviction. And I cant remember one missing body case that did end in a NG in the last 10 years or so. Nor would any other case be won where the victim was only skeleton when found leaving the ME no way to prove cause of death. Yet there are endless cases just like Caylee's case that ends up in first degree convictions because jurors know how to use their common sense. And many of them didn't have nearly the compelling CE as was in CAs case.

The manner of death was homicide. Anyone with a dab of common sense... which jurors are told to use... would know the only reason a child's body is thrown away with duct tape around its head... in a swamp in bags and never reported missing is because they were murdered.

There wasn't one case ever found where a child had 'accidentally' died and wound up like Caylee did under the same set of circumstances.

What happened is that clueless jury was bound and determined to overburden the state with things they did not have to lawfully prove.

They weren't going to convict no matter what unless they saw a running video from the time she was murdered until the time she was discarded and her mother drove off and went about partying for 31 days.

IMO

 

[turaj]

You mean this one? I haven't seen it because when I go to the link it tells me my region isn't allowed to view it... I guess I need to re-install Hola.:/

http://www.abc15.com/news/region-phoenix-metro/central-phoenix/video-jodi-arias-jurors-weigh-in-on-sentencing

Thanks...this is the first part and they make reference to a more complete one coming up the next day....as far as I can tell it never came and I think it may have to do with the court asking them not to run it as they may be looking into the whole deal but that is just a very uneducated guess.

 

[La-Cooks]

Quote Originally Posted by ICit View Post
Innocence Project will not take any case where the criminal is claiming self defense!

I don't believe that is true but we all know she is not innocent. I think the innocence project is a good thing and has helped innocent people be freed. But no one is going to pick up her. That is a reason I a glad she did not get death. That comes with all those anti dp that really don't care what people did. They just don't want them to die and will fight like heck on their own dime to support people with the DP.

The Innocence Project was founded in 1992 by Barry C. Scheck and Peter J. Neufeld at the Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law at Yeshiva University to assist prisoners who could be proven innocent through DNA testing. - See more at: http://www.innocenceproject.org/free-innocent#sthash.KDUO6wv9.dpuf

 

[Hatfield]

Just another thought, (thinking a lot lately), when I was working in the jail, I would say 95% or better of the population would say that 'they got the wrong guy". No one was ever guilty of what they were charged with. I always thought it was amazing that the county that I live in could have such an inept police force. If they could just reverse that percentage, they would be phenomenal (snark key off now). Appeals are normal, but the acceptance of said appeal is something altogether different.

Ive seen quite a few interviews of people on death row and most all of them claim they are innocent. I started thinking about it and I understand it. I think the main reason they do this is for their hope of a future appeal someday being successful.

They cannot ever admit to their crime because if they do and it goes on record in an interview, then any future appeal will never work. So in a way, they have to lie if they still plan on doing future appeals.

Its probably like that too for people serving time for any crime.

Ive also seen a couple of death row interviews where all appeals have run out and they were finally admitting what they did.

 

[kimi_SFC]

You mean this one? I haven't seen it because when I go to the link it tells me my region isn't allowed to view it... I guess I need to re-install Hola.:/

http://www.abc15.com/news/region-phoenix-metro/central-phoenix/video-jodi-arias-jurors-weigh-in-on-sentencing

This was linked within the above story:

(snip)

See more from the interview on Good Morning America

---- This video is dated March 7th:
https://gma.yahoo.com/video/jodi-arias-juror-spared-her-134437267.html?soc_src=copy

:dunno: - but I figured it was worth a try

:seeya:



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[Sulamith]

Juror #17 is going to profit from this. That was the plan all along. Her and that felon husband of hers.

How is she going to profit from "this"? If she wants to write a book, I will not be buying it. Will not be be buying Chris and Sky Hughes' book either. Did not buy Shanna Hogan's book or JVM's book. The Arias trial is the first trial that I have followed, but really, JA and TA were really ordinary, neither lived a very exceptional or interesting life. IMO, if Juror #17 publishes her book..it will not be a best seller.

 

[ICit]

I don't believe that is true but we all know she is not innocent. I think the innocence project is a good thing and has helped innocent people be freed. But no one is going to pick up her. That is a reason I a glad she did not get death. That comes with all those anti dp that really don't care what people did. They just don't want them to die and will fight like heck on their own dime to support people with the DP.

Someone posted a link to them a few pages back. Go look it up. They DO NOT TAKE CASES where the criminal claimed it was self defense.

 

[sammie]

Do we know who EXACTLY is supposed to be investigating the Juror 17 furor, is it Bill Montgomery or is it the court, or both?

The announcement came from his office, so my assumption is they are directing it.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

I respectfully totally disagree. Cause of death is not an element that has to be proven. If that were truly an element the DA had to prove then no 'missing body' cases would ever result in a conviction. And I cant remember one missing body case that did end in a NG in the last 10 years or so. Nor would any other case be won where the victim was only skeleton when found leaving the ME no way to prove cause of death. Yet there are endless cases just like Caylee's case that ends up in first degree convictions because jurors know how to use their common sense. And many of them didn't have nearly the compelling CE as was in CAs case.

The manner of death was homicide. Anyone with a dab of common sense... which jurors are told to use... would know the only reason a child's body is thrown away with duct tape around its head... in a swamp in bags and never reported missing is because they were murdered.

There wasn't one case ever found where a child had 'accidentally' died and wound up like Caylee did under the same set of circumstances.

What happened is that clueless jury was bound and determined to overburden the state with things they did not have to lawfully prove.

They weren't going to convict no matter what unless they saw a running video from the time she was murdered until the time she was discarded and her mother drove off and went about partying for 31 days.

IMO

Tell me how I vote that someone murdered someone if I don't know how they died? Yes there are cases where people are charged with murder without a body, which is not an easy feat, But they have to have more to tie them to it. Money, proven abuse, accomplices, witnesses.
If I am going to put someone in prison for life for murder you have to prove to me they did it.
There was not even a cause of death in this case. No one could say how she died. That is a problem because they did have the body.

 

[RickshawFan]

Yea but there was financial damage since it potentially affected his livelihood.

There are different laws in England regarding libel and slander than US laws.