Discussions on Formal Sentencing Hearing - Jodi Arias #5

[steelman]

Is it true they are considering moving her sentencing hearing up?

Per Troy Hayden, sounds like it is in the works.

I'm not an insider or anything, but it sounds like the State of Arizona, the D.A.'s office, the court system, Arpio, and Judge Stephens are preparing to give one big collective F U to the "delicate flower".

 

[audreyparker]

I really, really want to see a copy of that 'Manifesto' now. Thinking back to how early she wrote it... I believe it will be shocking and very, very telling.

How do taxpayers fund a million $ plus defense for an 'indigent' killer who has the funds to pay for 9 hours of video chatting? I know they are apples to oranges but if I was a resident, I would be pizzed and attending every city meeting and lighting up the phone lines of my local and state representatives.

Have we heard anything much from MDLR?

Will we definitely get to read it? Any ideas on when it may be released?

 

[Gin]

Reason seems kinda clear, actually. Sheriff Joe wants her gone, and JA just gave him lots of grounds for asking to expedite that transfer to Perryville.

JMO-Yep. He wants her gone. I get his being methodical about how she is treated. He wants to treat her exactly by the book, by the rules. If privileges are taken away, that's because SHE violated the policies. And he has it all on the record. She (and her attorneys) can't complain.

 

[Frigga]

I thought the reason for the month delay in sentencing was also so the Alexander's could prepare a statement and also the Sheriff's Department would need to get JA's records together. How she behaves in jail hopefully will influence the judge's decision. Plus if JSS sentenced her right away she would not have the information regarding Juror 17. We don't know what is happening but if it is significant, the judge will hear about it. jmo

I think you are probably right Lambchop, and as much as we hate how long all of this has dragged on it has allowed us more and more insight into the killer, her team, her family and all of her deplorable antics.

For anyone who thinks this killer isn't that smart- that may be- but she is devious beyond anything in my vivid imagination.

She really and truly scares me. That smile/smirk on her face that Troy Haden's team caught while filming her after the mistrial tells everything.

I am so grateful that Troy has been seeing all of this through.

I can't help but wonder if that interview, after the guilty verdict, stirred something in him that he could not have predicted in regard to her.

He really seems to understand how innocent she appears but how evil and vile she really is.

He has moved himself to the forefront of my admiration in journalists. Sadly, and unexplicably- Beth Karas has moved to the bottom for me.

 

[kimi_SFC]

I thought the reason for the month delay in sentencing was also so the Alexander's could prepare a statement and also the Sheriff's Department would need to get JA's records together. How she behaves in jail hopefully will influence the judge's decision. Plus if JSS sentenced her right away she would not have the information regarding Juror 17. We don't know what is happening but if it is significant, the judge will hear about it. jmo

RBBM

LambChop,

This is an excellent point! I remember listening live via satellite radio, and I don't recall a specific reason being given for the delay. JM stated the Alexander Family had preferences for certain days of the week (Monday or Tuesdays?) and one day didn't work for the State. That's how we ended up scheduling for April 13th.

To your point, this happened as it should have. It allowed the uncovering of j17, details to be forwarded to the proper authorities, and now a formal investigation.

Everything happens for a reason.

Here's hoping this is a positive sign that the momentum in this case has finally shifted.

lease:


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[samspace070]

Since Jodi's doing this reprehensible behavior that's been reported, imagine how bad the peripheral behavior is we don't know about. It's finally sunk in she's condemned for life. 'Camp Cupcake' will be no more for her and the pecking order in Perryville is already established. All the protective relationships Jodi had (attorney, JAII followers, fellow prisoners who wanted to be near the celebrity) are over. Filling in the blanks of what does she have to lose now?

IMO, the lessons of what she'll face in Perryville have already begun before she leaves Estrella. Grapevine.

You are mostly correct TartLemon but if she has access to lots of money she can buy her friends. Most of those convicts don't have the money access she does and they will court her or threaten her to get benefits from commissary store.

 

[mydirtysecret]

Any attention the killer gets is considered good attention. Doesn't matter if people are nice or cruel. Any attention = something interesting. The worst thing anyone can do to her is to completely ignore her forever. Total and complete shunning.

That's why all these various ideas to send her postcards of places she'll never visit, or Starbucks drinks she'll never order again... it's all attention. Arias keeps people thinking about her and they can't seem to help themselves. That's power.

ITA. She thrives off attention good bad or indifferent. It makes her feel special

 

[TartLemon]

Are Nurmi/Willmott done with obligation to Jodi except for being present at the sentencing?

 

[Dr. Know?]

Not sure if this is allowed but it's funny.

https://twitter.com/surya4969/status/575711024046702592

 

[dog.gone.cute]

I'll bet cheesy poofs, Ramen noodles and beef jerky that the sentencing date doesn't get moved up. If anything it will get pushed out.

I can just hear Nurmi and Jenny now- scheduling conflict for them and for the killers family.

moo

:seeya:

BBM: I think it might get delayed ... DELAYS are the "norm" for this case !

:gaah:

 

[Hope4More]

The whole thing seemed weird to me regarding how it went down. And I don't remember Nurmi saying anything about why the delay was needed - he asked and JSS granted it. But I was kind of in shock about the mistrial and all that so maybe I just didn't hear his reason.

IIRC, JSS asked if counsel was ready to procede with sentencing, Nurmi stood up and asked for 30 days, JM didn't object, JA declined the chance to pizz off JSS by speaking up, a date was proposed, JM said he wasn't available on the dste JSS first proposed, and asked that the Alexanders' schedule be considered-- they are only available on Mondays and Tuesdays, and JSS said that she could "certainly accommodate" the Alexanders' schedule.

 

[steelman]

Are Nurmi/Willmott done with obligation to Jodi except for being present at the sentencing?

That probably all depends on what Jodi has found out about them during all of this. What does she know that can be used against them ?

Don't forget about the recorded phone calls she made without Travis knowing.

Throwing Nurmi and Wilmott under the bus would be right on par for the abused princess.

 

[Mindmatters]

Per Troy Hayden, sounds like it is in the works.

I'm not an insider or anything, but it sounds like the State of Arizona, the D.A.'s office, the court system, Arpio, and Judge Stephens are preparing to give one big collective F U to the "delicate flower".

Yep, they want to wash their hands of her IMO, and the sooner the better.

I am sure that anything the State or MCSO pushes for to get Travis' murderer to her new home ASAP will be done with absolute consideration of the Alexander family's feedback and input.

 

[TartLemon]

You are mostly correct TartLemon but if she has access to lots of money she can buy her friends. Most of those convicts don't have the money access she does and they will court her or threaten her to get benefits from commissary store.

IMO, Jodi better hang on to any $$ she has. Those wells will dry up very soon. Besides, 'buying friends' only lasts until another 'friend' can come in with more $$. Miss a payment and Jodi will find out EXACTLY what being a friend means in BIG HOUSE prison.

 

[WhoaIsMe]

@troyhaydenfox10: Court is working to move up #JodiArias sentencing to later this month, according to multiple sources. Reason unclear. http://t.co/5y2WPoFmKs


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JSS is probably ready for this to all go away. With J17 and then yesterdays news of all day video chats, the phones have probably been ringing off the hook with outraged citizens. Sooner she is sentenced and gone, sooner it quiets down. Moo

When I told my dh about yesterday's news he made the remark of " I better watch myself" I was like " what's that supposed to mean" He said " sounds like she's living a life you would do well in ' chocolate, not a lot of people to deal with, can still see the grandkids via chat and loads of time to read, somebody might even bring the books by like in SOA" local people may have gotten the same images in their mind of her daily life that dh had. It's nauseating to think it.
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[dog.gone.cute]

That probably all depends on what Jodi has found out about them during all of this.
What does she know that can be used against them ?

Don't forget about the recorded phone calls she made without Travis knowing.

Throwing Nurmi and Wilmott under the bus would be right on par for the abused princess.

:seeya:

BBM: And JA will use it against them IF they don't cave in to her demands ...

:thinking: But ya know what: I can't think of 2 people more deserving of receiving her wrath ...

:thinking: Make that 3 : I almost forgot the former Cougarlicious MLDR !

 

[FelicityLemon]

Any attention the killer gets is considered good attention. Doesn't matter if people are nice or cruel. Any attention = something interesting. The worst thing anyone can do to her is to completely ignore her forever. Total and complete shunning.

That's why all these various ideas to send her postcards of places she'll never visit, or Starbucks drinks she'll never order again... it's all attention. Arias keeps people thinking about her and they can't seem to help themselves and she knows it. That's a form of power to her.

LOL, it made me laugh thinking about sending postcards to her with her name misspelled. She'd blow off the knowledge that the postcards are images meant to stick it to her, but she'd never get over her name being misspelled from lots of people

Send her coupons for Starbucks.

She wouldn't like that. *understatement*

 

[Hope4More]

I think you are probably right Lambchop, and as much as we hate how long all of this has dragged on it has allowed us more and more insight into the killer, her team, her family and all of her deplorable antics.

For anyone who thinks this killer isn't that smart- that may be- but she is devious beyond anything in my vivid imagination.

She really and truly scares me. That smile/smirk on her face that Troy Haden's team caught while filming her after the mistrial tells everything.

I am so grateful that Troy has been seeing all of this through.

I can't help but wonder if that interview, after the guilty verdict, stirred something in him that he could not have predicted in regard to her.

He really seems to understand how innocent she appears but how evil and vile she really is.

He has moved himself to the forefront of my admiration in journalists. Sadly, and unexplicably- Beth Karas has moved to the bottom for me.

FWIW, Hayden was asked about that smile/smirk, and he said she wasn't doing either that he could see. She was actually raging before and after she was on camera. Being filmed in stripes was apparently not OK with her, not one little bit.

According to Hayden she demanded to speak to her attorneys before she rounded the corner and faced the cameras. Her guards had to break the news to her that her attorneys weren't around.

Once past the cameras she continued with her hissy fit long enough that Hayden joked her keepers told him they were ticked off at him because they had to deal with her anger all afternoon.

That's what "victory" felt like to JA moments later.

 

[Mindmatters]

Just curious about something. For those in the know, do KN and JW's job abruptly end once Travis' murderer is sentenced--is there some ethical responsibility that keeps them beholden to her on a temporary basis following the sentencing? TIA

 

[A_News_Junkie]

She should never have received that 30 days, She should have been sentenced immediately, doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure what she needed 30 days for.

I agree - I understood the only reason that sentencing would not occur immediately is if the convicted wanted to allocute and she said she did not -----> so nothing to delay for, IMHO.