Dissecting the Florida Dept. of Children & Families Reports

[Priester]

OCSO wanted to obtain a voice stress test on KC ... wonder if they ever did?

Casey's voice will not test positive for stress,
she doesn't suffer from stress herself,
she is a carrier.

 

[Thinking_Out_Loud]

I thought it was bizarre that KC said that she had to "retrace her steps" when looking for Caylee. Why would anyone have to retrace their steps if they left their child in the care of another? I mean, I retrace my steps when I lose my keys, or my cellphone because I forget where I placed that item. In her case, she knew where she supposedly left her, correct? Why would she retrace her steps?

Maybe she was confused during the interview, and thought that DCF was inquiring about her imaginary Blackjack.

 

[Winnts]

"She stated that as a mother she would have a knowing feeling inside of her if something bad had happened to Caylee, and that her mother Cindy had the same type of feeling about her and her brother growing up"

That statement above says alot. Sociopaths mimic emotions that they feel are normal. She keeps making statments about this gut feeling but in this report it goes a bit further and she states that Cindy Anthony had this same type of eeling growing up. To me she is mimicing her mothers actions, what she 'thinks' would be a normal statement to make/emotion to have.

 

[nancy botwin]

"She stated that as a mother she would have a knowing feeling inside of her if something bad had happened to Caylee, and that her mother Cindy had the same type of feeling about her and her brother growing up"

That statement above says alot. Sociopaths mimic emotions that they feel are normal. She keeps making statments about this gut feeling but in this report it goes a bit further and she states that Cindy Anthony had this same type of feeling growing up. To me she is mimicing her mothers actions, what she thinks is a normal statement to make.

Interesting observation-- I didn't think about that as closely as you did.
You're right-- most people who say they experience mother's intuition don't seem to qualify it. And when I discuss my feelings, I don't feel the need to explain that "my mom feels things too!!" Casey is a piece of work, that's for sure.

 

[OneLostGrl]

She really, REALLY thinks people will just believe what she says and not do ANY follow up. :waitasec:

Yup because that's the way it's always worked.

 

[bessie]

"She stated that as a mother she would have a knowing feeling inside of her if something bad had happened to Caylee, and that her mother Cindy had the same type of feeling about her and her brother growing up"

That statement above says alot. Sociopaths mimic emotions that they feel are normal. She keeps making statments about this gut feeling but in this report it goes a bit further and she states that Cindy Anthony had this same type of feeling growing up. To me she is mimicing her mothers actions, what she thinks is a normal statement to make.

Very well stated. I wholeheartedly agree. Even watching her in the Target video, her actions and posture, I got the impression of watching a young person imitating an adult, in this case mimicking her mother, as you say. She "plays" Cindy in the reports from friends that portray her as head cook and bottle washer and the perfect hostess tending to everyone's needs. Then we hear the "Cindy" role take centerstage when she's consoling Christina during the jailhouse phone call: "I know sweetheart. I love you. blah, blah, blah" Her tone was condescending, as though she were an adult talking to a child, yet at the same time hollow. I kept going back to it in my head until I started to home in on what you've stated. She's a regular one woman show with a role for every situation. Too bad her performance lacks truth.

 

[gitana1]

Regarding the quality of the DCF reports, in case anyone is interested, I have read a lot of them in the course of my career and they are usually as poorly written as the one we read. But I don't believe it is due to lack of education, necessarily, on the part of the writer. These people have to issue tons and tons of reports and they usually have tons of dependents or cases to investigate. So, they do it very quickly and you see alot of errors. Also, DCF does not include alot of detail, in part because of their time constraints but also in part because they do not need to. The state is looking for very specific things. The social workers need to simply make sure the report touches on the things that justify a recommendation, the closing of a case or the removal of a child from a home, into state custody. Later, they give alot more detail at hearings and with the parents' attorneys challenging them. There is also an attorney for the child who may challenge them. These reports are almost like quick notes to themselves, so they can remember later what they observed, and also are checklists for the state to make sure any DCF action is justifed.

 

[Pink Panther]

"She stated that as a mother she would have a knowing feeling inside of her if something bad had happened to Caylee, and that her mother Cindy had the same type of feeling about her and her brother growing up"

That statement above says alot. Sociopaths mimic emotions that they feel are normal. She keeps making statments about this gut feeling but in this report it goes a bit further and she states that Cindy Anthony had this same type of feeling growing up. To me she is mimicing her mothers actions, what she thinks is a normal statement to make.

I get the feeling that she says a lot of things to taunt her mother. This statement obviously means something to them both and she throws it out there on three different occasions. I think it's a jab toward CA. Taunting her because she either does know what happened or remarking on her lack of intuition if she doesn't.

MOO

 

[AZlawyer]

Regarding the quality of the DCF reports, in case anyone is interested, I have read a lot of them in the course of my career and they are usually as poorly written as the one we read. But I don't believe it is due to lack of education, necessarily, on the part of the writer. These people have to issue tons and tons of reports and they usually have tons of dependents or cases to investigate. So, they do it very quickly and you see alot of errors. Also, DCF does not include alot of detail, in part because of their time constraints but also in part because they do not need to. The state is looking for very specific things. The social workers need to simply make sure the report touches on the things that justify a recommendation, the closing of a case or the removal of a child from a home, into state custody. Later, they give alot more detail at hearings and with the parents' attorneys challenging them. There is also an attorney for the child who may challenge them. These reports are almost like quick notes to themselves, so they can remember later what they observed, and also are checklists for the state to make sure any DCF action is justifed.

I have read a LOT of these reports in Arizona, and quite honestly the ones from DCF are soooooo much more readable than the ones from AZ.

 

[Brini]

The whole 'seasonal employee' thing is riduclous and can easily be shown false by a simple call to the IRS.

LE showed KC's IRS earning to CA. None since the first quarter of '06.

CA just said, "Uh-huh."

 

[Brini]

Oh that's right. Wasn't that the weirdest thing? How could she confuse which friend it was that asked her for money?

Wasn't the other one black? I mean, just in case there's no other way to tell...

 

[Brini]

(BLUE is my emphasis) And remember, she had to hurry, cause she needed to get over to Tony's so they could be at Blockbuster at 8 PM.

She is a piece of work, I tell you what. How about when she said that OCSO lied to the media and that Universal DID have records of her hours and pay?

I almost choked. This girl has GALL.

I think she is empty inside - there's no soul in there.

The IRS would also seem to be part of the plot. Their readout ALSO says she hasn't worked.

 

[Cara's Mom]

Sorry for being dense, but why did DCF have to do this investigation since all things point to Caylee being deceased? Is it just a standard thing they must do when child neglect charges are filed? Interesting info though...

 

[Brini]

Casey's voice will not test positive for stress,
she doesn't suffer from stress herself,
she is a carrier.

A psychological Typhoid Mary.

MOO

 

[LI_Mom]

I don't think we do know for a fact that Casey wanted to adopt Caylee out and that Cindy wouldn't let her. Casey told that to one of her 19 year old friends. She told others, including Jesse, that adoption was not an option.

I agree & we must remember that Casey LIED to everyone anyway so there's no way to know how she really felt about anything.

In any event... let's say Cindy 'forced' Casey to keep the baby... I don't think anyone would argue that Casey felt obligated to get a job & raise her child. Her parents continued to support her & her baby.

If Casey wanted to be free, she only had to move out & let her parents deal with the baby they allegedly forced her to have.

Nope, the self-centered, loser didn't want to deal with Caylee OR deal with what her family or friends might say about or to her if she made the choice to let her parents have Caylee.

Casey can only think about Casey & doesn't want to consider anyone else.

 

[Mom of Five]

Or she could have a "faulty definition" and thinks it means seasonings like condiments and that's why she peppers her statements with lies and we have to take them with a grain of salt while she hopes to cut the mustard hoping that this is her gravy train



:bang:

:smiley4:That is hysterical!!!:aktion033:

 

[CaliKid]

There is so much we will NEVER know whether it was the truth or not.

 

[ShadowGal]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Priester
Casey's voice will not test positive for stress,
she doesn't suffer from stress herself,
she is a carrier.

A psychological Typhoid Mary.

MOO

Both insightful posts...

 

[Chilly Willy]

Sorry for being dense, but why did DCF have to do this investigation since all things point to Caylee being deceased? Is it just a standard thing they must do when child neglect charges are filed? Interesting info though...

I believe it was a precaution in case Caylee was found alive. Probably standard in all 'kidnapping' cases. DCF needed to determine if Caylee could immediately be returned to her mother. I think they decided against it.

 

[LillyRush]

Did she get into Universal and steal the forms? If she had the time cards, she wouldn't have been paid. Companies keep the time cards - they don't return them to the employees. People are not as stupid as the Anthonys think they are. I have worked payroll multiple times, and NEVER has a time card been returned to an employee - they are needed for documentation for pay records. I would think the HR dept at Universal would KNOW if someone was seasonal or not. Also KC was fired and companies don't like to rehire people they have FIRED.

I can't copy and paste because it's in pdf format. But, anyway, the statement was actually that Universal Studios has her timesheets and pay stubs. Not to sound like I'm defending her (and I'm not), but just clarifying that she never said that the timesheets/cards were in her possession.