DNA Doe Project - General Discussion #2

[doggybag2355]

Have to think that there is some investigative reason for the witholding of that one, as well as Harper JD and the Philadelphia JD 2017. A bit strange through as all of those cases were reported in the local news, you'd think that at some point they would follow up on them.

X-rays I would assume would have to do with cross-referencing healed fractures, etc or dental records, but I'm not sure what the forensic standard for those are. I would assume that those comparisons are much cheaper and easier to do than DNA comparison in most cases, though could maybe be more ambiguous or inconclusive.

Most likely given the circumstances. Also since the case is much more recent, there's still probably much fresher leads to follow.

 

[djanga]

Have to think that there is some investigative reason for the witholding of that one, as well as Harper JD and the Philadelphia JD 2017. A bit strange through as all of those cases were reported in the local news, you'd think that at some point they would follow up on them.

X-rays I would assume would have to do with cross-referencing healed fractures, etc or dental records, but I'm not sure what the forensic standard for those are. I would assume that those comparisons are much cheaper and easier to do than DNA comparison in most cases, though could maybe be more ambiguous or inconclusive.

There is also Pilar Point Doe, a violent hate crime with two suspects but no arrest. The DDP solved this case long time ago, but the police did not make an announcement due to ongoing investigation

 

[djanga]

Most likely given the circumstances. Also since the case is much more recent, there's still probably much fresher leads to follow.

May be you can offer the DDP to help them to update the website.
According to the pin post three new Pima County cases are now active

 

[candleman75]

Someone should start a thread on here for Saginaw John Doe 1973. I can't seem to find one.

That's a great idea.

 

[candleman75]

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He has great numbers - hoping for a quick solve!

Wow! How can you access those numbers?

 

[doggybag2355]

May be you can offer the DDP to help them to update the website.
According to the pin post three new Pima County cases are now active

I would but I don’t remember much html from my days in college. Perhaps I could try making those placeholder images for cases that don’t have reconstructions, however I would need images of specific locations that are royalty free

 

[djanga]

Wow! How can you access those numbers?

The pinned post located on the DDP facebook page, it has a list of all their cases and a link to the spreadsheet

DNA Doe Project Public Cases.xlsx

drive.google.com

 

[djanga]

I would but I don’t remember much html from my days in college. Perhaps I could try making those placeholder images for cases that don’t have reconstructions, however I would need images of specific locations that are royalty free

I think they probably use the graphic one, where everything is intuitive, no need to write commands or anything. I have noticed that Saginaw John Doe does not have a placeholder picture, which seems totally fine with me, i think these photos are nice idea, but it is fine with just a black siluetee on white background. But the DDP has a lot of new cases, not on the website still

 

[candleman75]

The pinned post located on the DDP facebook page, it has a list of all their cases and a link to the spreadsheet

DNA Doe Project Public Cases.xlsx

drive.google.com

Thank you.

 

[ntt1]

• Pima Co John Doe 2019 (AZ) NamUs #UP59307
• Pima Co John Doe 2019 (AZ) NamUs #UP56117
• Pima Co Jane Doe 2010 (AZ) NamUs #UP9040

Now in active research.

 

[djanga]

One of the Pima cases is now a DDP fund case and is listed as a pending case. They refer to this man as Valencia Road John Doe 2019. Carl Koppelman made a new reconstruction for him:

Valencia Road John Doe 2019 | DNA Doe Project

dnadoeproject.org

 

[ntt1]

One of the Pima cases is now a DDP fund case and is listed as a pending case. They refer to this man as Valencia Road John Doe 2019. Carl Koppelman made a new reconstruction for him:

Valencia Road John Doe 2019 | DNA Doe Project

dnadoeproject.org

If you go to his NAMUS it would appear that they might have already made a tentative ID.

 

[djanga]

If you go to his NAMUS it would appear that they might have already made a tentative ID.

From Namus:
Decedent found in possible homeless camp. Genealogy studies result in a probable match to Tucsonan Tommy Gayle Pool, Jr. Photo from his 2007 Arizona DL has been uploaded to NamUs.

 

[doggybag2355]

Two new cases per Facebook, one from Maine with no NamUs profile yet, and their first from Vermont.

Unidentified Person / NamUs #UP12366

View NamUs unclaimed person case UCP12366 for -- -- missing from Burlington, Vermont. Date body found: Jan 03, 2011. NCMEC case number: --.

namus.nij.ojp.gov

 

[JovanSrna]

They're working on Tulsa race massacre victims too.

 

[doggybag2355]

Another Pima County case is now on the site with a reconstruction from Mr. Koppelman: Tucson Parking Lot John Doe 2019 - DNA Doe Project Cases

 

[JovanSrna]

Another Pima County case is now on the site with a reconstruction from Mr. Koppelman: Tucson Parking Lot John Doe 2019 - DNA Doe Project Cases

The fundraising target has got to be a mistake.

 

[doggybag2355]

Pima County (Eloy) Jane Doe (2010) is now on the site as well:

Pima County Jane Doe 2010 - DNA Doe Project

Description On June 29, 2010, a routine traffic stop turned tragic in Eloy, Arizona, after the driver of a vehicle attempted to evade police. After failing to stop, the van turned off of the road and into a field. The vehicle and a male occupant were found later that day on a dirt road, near […]

dnadoeproject.org

 

[victoriarobinson642]

Another Pima County case is now on the site with a reconstruction from Mr. Koppelman: Tucson Parking Lot John Doe 2019 - DNA Doe Project Cases

 

[djanga]

No spreadsheet update this week
I am also wondering if any of the old cases were resolved this year. I really hope for Vernon County Jane Doe to be solved, as for a long time she had only very low matches and finally this year she got a decent match.

Also waiting for Gregg County Jane Doe to be identified as she has good chances too