DNA From JonBenet's Clothes Given to FBI

sissi said:
Nowhere does anyone suggest the panties themselves had dna in areas other than in the blood stains. There is every reason to believe the dna belongs to her killer.
We have no idea if the BPD tested other areas of the panties. If they did, they haven't released that information. We do know that they tested the exact same brand of panties and they had DNA on them right out if the package.

And there is NO reason to believe the DNA belongs to the killer. Sissi, kindly explain to us how a person who is not a genetic scientist can leave only a partial strand of DNA on another person.
 
sissi said:
The dna was from a blood stain in her underwear. There were two blood stains,in the one they couldn't get enough markers however from this latest test with the second blood stain they managed to get a sample suitable for comparison. Nowhere does anyone suggest the panties themselves had dna in areas other than in the blood stains. There is every reason to believe the dna belongs to her killer. Sadly some consider Burke as her killer,IMO this is sad,nothing suggests fibers ,dna,blood,skin,hair,or anything on her body can be sourced to Burke.IMO JMO


The results of Burke's DNA tests have never been released. Only John and Patsy have been tentatively cleared due to DNA in the mixed samples from the panties. Burke has not.

Just my opinion.
 
"They did not. Nor did the take the other panties that remained in the package. They had no desire to test them."



Toth,I believe if you say that they had no desire to test them that is inaccurate- they would have been more than happy to because the DNA myth would be dispelled if matching DNA was found in other panties-- it was more likely they did not collect them because at the time they did not think it was significant.

Well, what happened to them? Didn't the movers send everything to the Ramseys?
 
There were numerous pairs of underwear taken from the house by the cops as evidence.
 
Wasn't there also a problem with figuring out if the DNA was from one person or more than one? I remember something about it possibly being mixed with more than JonBenet's DNA, and, if so, it would be hard to tell which markers belonged to which DNA donor.

I'm lousy on DNA evidence, tho, so I could be completely wrong about this.
 
QUOTE=Ivy]..my understanding is that the DNA sample sent to the FBI came from beneath a spot of JonBenet's blood. Wood likes to say the DNA sample was co-mingled with her blood, but experts theorize it's more likely that the blood dripped onto a smidgen of DNA, which was probably DNA from a sneeze or cough or sigh or touch from a worker in the underwear factory. As Maxi and others have pointed out, the DNA sample was miniscule, and if it was really connected to the case, it would have been larger, and there would have been more samples than just one or two small ones.[/QUOTE]



Quote from article.....Earlier DNA tests on the blood indicated it was from a male who was not a member of the Ramsey family.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,106762,00.html
I really have never read,IVY,anything describing the scenario you provide,other than in one very limited editorial type writing where the writer provided their opinion based on Kane's thoughts on the subject. Would you mind sourcing which experts theorize any such thing?
I remember in 1998,it was said dna was commingled with blood in a stain,and at least six of the markers were matched to the dna under her nails,and at that time,it wasn't a sufficient amount to consider under the "gold standard" for number of markers.
Much ,almost everything,indeed everything we heard or read in those early days were opinions of investigators,and words out of Kane's mouth. Wood,otoh, has a vested interest in reporting factual information,it would not serve his clients well for him to misstate any detail involving forensic evidence. Pam ,although criticized,was briefed by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation concerning this stain,the information she was given is "quote from Pam" "The commingling DNA that does exist has been separated. One of the DNA strands does belong to JonBenet. The other has only been tested, I'm told, against Patsy, John and Burke, of which there is, unequivocally, no match" This information was released in 1998,Wood had nothing to do with it,this was information from the GBI. The GBI was in Atlanta testing the family,including grandparents ,swabbing them for dna to test against the sample they had at the time as early as 1998. In 1999 the CBI went back to the Pugh's and swab tested Ariana.(which perhaps should have made some of us blink...they were looking for a male)

I do not understand ,but I do know it's our privilege,how ,given the same information
,why some choose not to believe the facts as they "pop" up.

Larry King said,in 1998,
"KING: Well, because a lot of it is based upon speculation of things that are not, in fact, correct or are downright inaccurate, it does hurt, because people then assume those facts to be true, and they kind of, assuming those facts to be true, develop theories. And those theories over time grow legs, and then pretty soon people start beating up on the prosecution...
Yep,in 1998 he saw and reported on the growing "mob" mentality.




IMO JMO
 
Maxi said:
Wasn't there also a problem with figuring out if the DNA was from one person or more than one? I remember something about it possibly being mixed with more than JonBenet's DNA, and, if so, it would be hard to tell which markers belonged to which DNA donor.

I'm lousy on DNA evidence, tho, so I could be completely wrong about this.


The two drops of blood in the crotch of JonBent's panties was reportedly mixed and contained her DNA and the foreign DNA of one and perhaps two males, but not John Ramsey's DNA. The available number of markers, other than JonBenet's, could be used to eliminate suspects but there weren't enough foreign DNA markers to positively identify specific suspects.

These analyses tentatively eliminated John and Patsy as the contributors of the DNA.

But apparent recent improvements in analyzing DNA samples obtained via the PCR amplification method (probably by eliminating the pesky stutter effect) have likely increased the ability to better identify suspects by improving the quality of the available markers (at least 10 out of the preferred 13) and thus the foreign DNA was able to be entered into the FBI's CODIS system.

Just my opinion.

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