Does their RELUCTANCE to sit forthe CIVIL depositions affect your opinion of the A's?

[sharpar]

More game playing by the Ant farm . Par for the course.

It matters little what they say since they have zero credibility

Its mind boggling that everyone is so willing to allow them to continue to slander

this woman and she is to just supposed buck up and take it

For most of us all we have is our intregity and good name ...........

I love this quote from one of the th - they sullied her name in public but want

to clear it up in private .

I would really like someone to find the cajones to hold the ant farm feet to the fire

make them accountable for what they do and say and their outrageous behavior just

like the rest of us.

Being a grieving grandparent doesnt give you a free pass to trounce all over the

rights of everyone else

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I'm going to be in the minority here but I think George is a grown man with a mind of his own. I can't blame Cindy for George's actions, George is responsible for himself and his own conscience. He is also fully aware of the destruction Casey will cause if she is found not guilty and rejoins society. If he lies to try and get her her off, I hope they have jail cell waiting for him too. Maybe the judge needs to explain perjury to them about 20 times before they open their mouth.

:applause::applause::applause:

 

[Paintr]

More game playing by the Ant farm . Par for the course.

It matters little what they say since they have zero credibility

Its mind boggling that everyone is so willing to allow them to continue to slander

this woman and she is to just supposed buck up and take it

For most of us all we have is our intregity and good name ...........

I love this quote from one of the th - they sullied her name in public but want

to clear it up in private .

I would really like someone to find the cajones to hold the ant farm feet to the fire

make them accountable for what they do and say and their outrageous behavior just

like the rest of us.

Being a grieving grandparent doesnt give you a free pass to trounce all over the

rights of everyone else

Thank you kindly for saving me some one fingered typing. You said it perfectly! :dance:

 

[secretsquirrel]

No. I don't think any of them should have to give civil depos right now. I don't think anything should take precedence or possibly risk the criminal case against Casey. The civil case can wait and their refusal is legally justified and understandable. Actually, I think less of Lee because of what he said in his depo. I'd think more of him if he had his lawyer postpone it. What he said was unnecessary and unfathomable to me.

 

[Paintr]

No. I don't think any of them should have to give civil depos right now. I don't think anything should take precedence or possibly risk the criminal case against Casey. The civil case can wait and their refusal is legally justified and understandable. Actually, I think less of Lee because of what he said in his depo. I'd think more of him if he had his lawyer postpone it. What he said was unnecessary and unfathomable to me.

I would think more of him if he spoke the unvarnished truth. The same goes for the senior Anthonys. MOO

 

[tangerinemoon]

They went to see Casey in court today; so they should be forced to attend the deposition.

 

[Ezryder9]

I'm just pleased to see that the A's have made such an amazing recovery from their emotional distress of last week that they were able to be in the courtroom, CA with her hair all newly done and smiling for JB. Maybe Morgan doesn't need to give them 20 days to respond to anything!

 

[Lexington]

Both G and C were at the hearing today and both looked fit as fiddles, especially C who looked as if she just had her hair done. If they were not too emotionally fragile to come face to face with their granddaughter's murderer, I don't see why a deposition should frazzle them. I guess they just don't want to answer questions under oath. Hmm.

 

[Blackwatch]

No, their reluctance to sit for depositions does not affect my opinion of the Anthonys.

What goes unnoticed is how the insistence and grandstanding of Mr. Morgan plays so well for the cause of the prosecution. I think ZFG's lawyer is (like all the rest of the people on TV) just making "hay" out of the whole situation.

Now, before I get seriously dive-bombed, let me reiterate what my opinion of the Anthonys (which remains unchanged) is! I think they are some really mentally strange people. I think their capacity for denial is unlimited. My opinion is that their daughter is a cold-blooded murderer.

As for ZFG (the real one) and her suit, good for her. Why shouldn't she complain, after being used by this (in my opinion) murderer? However, many people think no one should ever be a plaintiff in a personal injury suit. (I don't agree with that.) In the end, if anything is collected by ZFG, it will be from some insurance company, or from Casey... so I don't care... one is in the business of taking risks, and the other in my opinion is a murderer.

I am so sick of the word, "DENIAL". What exactly does it mean to everyone here? Does it mean I deny the truth, which may equal LIE? Does it mean my mind can wash pants and give questionable hairbrushes because I don't believe any of that is relevant? What EXACTLY does DENIAL mean to everyone here? Can the As be in DENIAL that Caylee is dead? Like, that would mean something, it would mean their minds can't deal with it. But I see NONE of THAT. I see LIES being called DENIAL.

So 'ave at it - what IS denial?

My opinion only

 

[tangerinemoon]

I hope that this time around,Z's lawyer is watching tv .
He missed George on tv, fresh out of the hospital, offering emotional support to Haleigh's parents. Not that there is anything wrong with him doing that;but don't claim to be distraught or emotionally fragile to attend a hearing when you appeared on tv a few days before.
JMO.

 

[Paintr]

If the Anthonys are so convinced that Kc is innocent, that someone else is responsible, that she will be named 'mother of the year' as soon as we know what they know.: if they are true believers, why aren't they standing proud, telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth and letting the guilty come to light?

 

[debs]

I am so sick of the word, "DENIAL". What exactly does it mean to everyone here? Does it mean I deny the truth, which may equal LIE? Does it mean my mind can wash pants and give questionable hairbrushes because I don't believe any of that is relevant? What EXACTLY does DENIAL mean to everyone here? Can the As be in DENIAL that Caylee is dead? Like, that would mean something, it would mean their minds can't deal with it. But I see NONE of THAT. I see LIES being called DENIAL.

So 'ave at it - what IS denial?

My opinion only

Denial means to me (relevant to this case) that anything can be said, anything can be done, and anything can be concealed as long as it is done with the intent to keep everyone else from finding out the truth. It means that the behaviors that could be construed as suspicious would be given a "oh golly, I didn't know I shouldn't have done that" excuse. It means that when someone is asked something directly, they don't have to answer it if at the moment they're being asked they determine the person asking (and those that will hear it) aren't deserving of the truth. It means that when someone talks to LE, they should go on and on and on ad nauseum about irrelevant things in order to obfuscate the small kernels of information that might prove useful.

In short, it means BS.

 

[trafficsUP66]

I'm going to be in the minority here but I think George is a grown man with a mind of his own. I can't blame Cindy for George's actions, George is responsible for himself and his own conscience. He is also fully aware of the destruction Casey will cause if she is found not guilty and rejoins society. If he lies to try and get her her off, I hope they have jail cell waiting for him too. Maybe the judge needs to explain perjury to them about 20 times before they open their mouth.

ITA!

He is fully capable of making his own decisions as to whose side he will take despite what the other A's think or feel!

His GJ appearance shows us this. So does his meeting with LE without CA's knowledge.

Can any one imagine what would befall these people should Casey get off these charges and be freed???

Casey won't be the only one that will have nowhere to hide. Remember the protester's?

After today's court appearance, I see no reason why they cannot sit and answer Q's for a deposition. They are only delaying the inevitable and/or avoiding LE re-questioning, imo.

My opinion of them is now so low that I'm finding it harder to maintain any empathy for them despite that they are not the perpetrator's of this horrendous crime against Caylee. I believe they can still love their daughter without standing against LE and the wheels of justice on her behalf.

Justice must be served for Caylee and that should be their main concern. It is not and that is definitely going to affect public opinion of them more to the negative.

 

[songline]

I think it's likely that George is in a pretty fragile state right now. But I'm not sure what is so taxing about stating that they don't know anything about a woman who doesn't exist.
I would think that, at this point, it would be in their best interests to portray themselves as compassionate for others--like the woman their daughter accused of stealing her child.

But it doesn't change my opinion of THEM as much as it makes me question the counsel they are receiving.

They could say they do not know her never saw her.
BUT they do not know what other questions may be asked that can be used later in the criminal case.
If they sit in the stand and swear to tell the truth and say I plead the 5th for all the other questions they may create getting in trouble themselves. I believe the Casey's team will go with the story Nanny took her - other wise they have to go with some form of temporary or permanent mental damage.
And it seems they will not take that direction.
I personally feel sorry for them, I know that I used to think IF this I would do that. Till I had a bipolar daughter who can make your hair stand up. I had to think on my feet while overwhelmed. SO I have said this before I have no clue what I would do if I was them.
to me they do not have to be likable, they are parents, they are human, they had no manual on how to deal with this.
CASEY IS GOING AWAY FOR A LONG LONG TIME. they do know that. She will never get off, in the very least she put the child in harms way by giving the child to people she can not find. That is severe Negligence. that is the least. JMO

AS for ZG; she was offered over a million dollars for her story for a movie and book. She will clear her name for sure and she will come out of this OK.

 

[songline]

Denial means to me (relevant to this case) that anything can be said, anything can be done, and anything can be concealed as long as it is done with the intent to keep everyone else from finding out the truth. It means that the behaviors that could be construed as suspicious would be given a "oh golly, I didn't know I shouldn't have done that" excuse. It means that when someone is asked something directly, they don't have to answer it if at the moment they're being asked they determine the person asking (and those that will hear it) aren't deserving of the truth. It means that when someone talks to LE, they should go on and on and on ad nauseum about irrelevant things in order to obfuscate the small kernels of information that might prove useful.

In short, it means BS.

Debs while there is a lot of denial going on here: a part of denial means ; the mind protecting itself and saying: CAN'T COPE with this information, this can not be real.
But while some of it is denial, much of it is clearly AVOID, DELAY, DEFER, BUY TIME: they are clearly not going to make it easy for anyone. They lost two, they know that, they are dealing with a lot. IT happened to them and nobody else and they are not helping more; They only did what they absolutely had to do. made the 911 call and turned the car in.
That is not denial, that is keeping everything close to the vest. There is only some denial, there is also strategy. MOO

 

[Blackwatch]

Denial means to me (relevant to this case) that anything can be said, anything can be done, and anything can be concealed as long as it is done with the intent to keep everyone else from finding out the truth. It means that the behaviors that could be construed as suspicious would be given a "oh golly, I didn't know I shouldn't have done that" excuse. It means that when someone is asked something directly, they don't have to answer it if at the moment they're being asked they determine the person asking (and those that will hear it) aren't deserving of the truth. It means that when someone talks to LE, they should go on and on and on ad nauseum about irrelevant things in order to obfuscate the small kernels of information that might prove useful.

In short, it means BS.

Thank you. An honest post is refreshing.

 

[SoSueMe]

I am so sick of the word, "DENIAL". What exactly does it mean to everyone here? Does it mean I deny the truth, which may equal LIE? Does it mean my mind can wash pants and give questionable hairbrushes because I don't believe any of that is relevant? What EXACTLY does DENIAL mean to everyone here? Can the As be in DENIAL that Caylee is dead? Like, that would mean something, it would mean their minds can't deal with it. But I see NONE of THAT. I see LIES being called DENIAL.

So 'ave at it - what IS denial?

My opinion only

What is denial? The A's were certainly in denial at the very beginning with KC and probably in denial that Caylee was still alive. I'm not too sure it wasn't HOPE instead of denial. As long as there was any other scenario they could hang onto, they refused to believe the obvious.

Have you ever known someone ravished with cancer and everyone around them (including the patient) believes they can still beat it when the doctors say they have done all they can do? Or have you ever known a child that is lying in a hospital bed and is brain dead, but you pray and think maybe, just maybe they are wrong and the child can come back? To me, those are moments of denial. Or has anyone ever told you that you are overbearing, overstepping your boundaries or obsessive about something and you say, nah, that's not true? I think there are different degrees of denial.

There came a point in this case that A's could no longer use that excuse. As for LA's deposition, he is either dumber than a rock or he's playing a dangerous game and it's called perjury. IMO

Sue

 

[marla]

This came up in another thread and I'm curious as to the opinions of others here. Does the A's reluctance to sit for civil depositions as scheduled on February 26, 2008, affect your opinion of them?

Since I goofed on adding the poll, looks like this is an essay poll unless the mods can fix it to make it last a few days.

Not in the least ..
I thought VERY LITTLE of them before they pulled this latest stall tactic ..

 

[marla]

What is denial? The A's were certainly in denial at the very beginning with KC and probably in denial that Caylee was still alive. I'm not too sure it wasn't HOPE instead of denial. As long as there was any other scenario they could hang onto, they refused to believe the obvious.

Have you ever known someone ravished with cancer and everyone around them (including the patient) believes they can still beat it when the doctors say they have done all they can do? Or have you ever known a child that is lying in a hospital bed and is brain dead, but you pray and think maybe, just maybe they are wrong and the child can come back? To me, those are moments of denial. Or has anyone ever told you that you are overbearing, overstepping your boundaries or obsessive about something and you say, nah, that's not true? I think there are different degrees of denial.

There came a point in this case that A's could no longer use that excuse. As for LA's deposition, he is either dumber than a rock or he's playing a dangerous game and it's called perjury. IMO

Sue

Regarding Lee, I think it's the former ..

 

[Paintr]

I never expected the senior Anthonys to sit for depositions and frankly still don't. I have no idea of the legal tactics they can use but I am wagering BC does and will use all of them. When immunity was not forthcoming, the idea of sitting for any court proceedure went south. I will be amazed if they testify at trial.