Does TH's FB give us any clues?

[txsvicki]

Facebook can show a person's general attitude towards their children if there is a pattern. Also, it might even show a pattern of another family member being on there as the person. Not sure how this applies, but I've been convinced that my cousin's odd acting husband has posted to me and sent out emails pretending to be her a few times. Maybe friends in this case will be able to see some cues if not actual clues.

 

[Emma Peel]

Q: Does TH's FB give us any clues?

A: nope

 

[loves2bmom]

I think this is on topic... Did anyone notice she changed her profile pic again? Sorry if that's off limits. You can still see her profile pic even though the rest is private.

 

[sofia76]

I don't think there is anything incriminating on her FB. I'd call myself an avid FB user. I have hundreds of friends and relations on there, and update my status 4-6 times a day. I often post photos from my cell phone to my FB account seconds after having taken them.

The only thing I find odd about TH's wall is that she never mentions him disappearing. I'm sure she was busy the night of and day after, but when she returned to FB she just never said anything about it. She talked about other things, but on her own wall at least, it never came up except to mention in passing that she was out with detectives, that the media is inaccurate, and that she is printing flyers. She does "like" and thank people who post things about Kyron, however.

I think she is probably not an emotional sharer. I'm a writer and am very comfortable expressing my emotions in the written form and on my (private) FB. Many people aren't. I haven't seen any emotional sharing on her part - not even about her daughter. She shares stories/information, but not her feelings. That doesn't make her a kidnapper or murderer.

 

[CaringCitizen]

I'm sure others will have answered you as well, but this is not true. There were albums with many pics of Kyron on SM's FB.

Were you able to conduct analysis on the photos - in terms of how many of each child? The results are indeed indicative of something.

We may disagree on what that something is, but there is no doubt that the ratio between the two children's photos is off the charts in one direction. It's not even close.

This same analysis can be done on her FB postings as well, with the same results.

Not that favoritism leads to murder, but with all the other information in this sad case, it certainly could this time.

FB and other socmedia is being used more and more in criminal investigations and the use of them in this regard, will rise and rise and rise.

What comes to mind for me when I read, for example, answers to different surveys SOME PEOPLE take on FB at different times, is something akin to the [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Multiphasic_Personality_Inventory"]MMPI[/ame].

That instrument will ask different questions throughout the inventory where the questions are so far apart and are slightly tweaked, that it can reveal more about a person, even though they know their answers are being assessed. It can reveal discrepancies and contradictions just by spacing the questions far apart. The MMPI is loooooong.

So whether it's info from various timeframes on FB, info from various LE interviews/statements or polys, information told to friends or teachers etc, all of it can come together to reveal contradictions over time in one's story. This undoubtedly plays a role in how and why LE focus on certain people.

Just my opinions.

 

[CaringCitizen]

I think this is on topic... Did anyone notice she changed her profile pic again? Sorry if that's off limits. You can still see her profile pic even though the rest is private.

Sure did.

Oh, can I also add that if you apply the analysis I talked about in the above post and you apply that JUST TO the profile photos (95 of them) the results are astounding.

So, even adding in this new one (that does include the boys), it doesn't move the percentage one iota. This is a person whose entire FB life was dedicated to one of 3 children. The only child, I might add, that is in the household still today.

 

[grandmaj]

Originally Posted by Kimster View Post
We're going to open up discussion on TH's Facebook. Her FB is private and WS rules are that when a social network page is private - IT IS PRIVATE.

What we can do now is discuss TH's Facebook if it is mentioned in the main stream media. Here's a list of sources you may draw from using links:

Main stream media, including Willamette Week

Television

The Levi Page Show

ETA: Links to comments made by our members during the time the FB was public

If you know of another source to be considered, contact us privately and we'll look into it for you.

Remember, TH is not a POI and LE has asked us to be kind when posting on the internet. We can discuss suspicious behavior, but we can't bash or accuse anyone of a crime, or anything along that line. No matter what you believe, think of TH as innocent as you post peculiar behavior.


CaringCitizen please provide a link that we at WS discussed these surveys.... we may have and I could have missed it.

 

[CaringCitizen]

Originally Posted by Kimster View Post
We're going to open up discussion on TH's Facebook. Her FB is private and WS rules are that when a social network page is private - IT IS PRIVATE.

What we can do now is discuss TH's Facebook if it is mentioned in the main stream media. Here's a list of sources you may draw from using links:

Main stream media, including Willamette Week

Television

The Levi Page Show

ETA: Links to comments made by our members during the time the FB was public

If you know of another source to be considered, contact us privately and we'll look into it for you.

Remember, TH is not a POI and LE has asked us to be kind when posting on the internet. We can discuss suspicious behavior, but we can't bash or accuse anyone of a crime, or anything along that line. No matter what you believe, think of TH as innocent as you post peculiar behavior.


CaringCitizen please provide a link that we at WS discussed these surveys.... we may have and I could have missed it.

Sorry...I thought we could discuss it if we ever saw it. I can edit that part of my post. I don't have a link to the surveys - unless I were to put them online myself. My misunderstanding. EDIT: I have changed my post to make a general statement as it applies to anyone. Thanks for the nudge.

 

[grandmaj]

Caring only what has been widely publicized as in Kimster's post above. Thanks. Yes please do edit.

 

[grandmaj]

Everyone please continue to stay updated on this thread.....

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[CaringCitizen]

Caring only what has been widely publicized as in Kimster's post above. Thanks. Yes please do edit.

DONE! I edited to make it a generalization. The concept applies to anyone. Thanks again Grandmaj!! I am glad you keep us all on track...including me!

 

[grandmaj]

We understand that we are holding you all back some. But until we have something more from LE about who it is they are looking at, we are trying to protect people who may be innocent. I know you are all eager...... that is great. Just hold on, hopefully it won't be long. :blowkiss: to all.

 

[BeanE]

Were you able to conduct analysis on the photos - in terms of how many of each child? The results are indeed indicative of something.

We may disagree on what that something is, but there is no doubt that the ratio between the two children's photos is off the charts in one direction. It's not even close.

This same analysis can be done on her FB postings as well, with the same results.

Not that favoritism leads to murder, but with all the other information in this sad case, it certainly could this time.

FB and other socmedia is being used more and more in criminal investigations and the use of them in this regard, will rise and rise and rise.

What comes to mind for me when I read, for example, answers to different surveys SOME PEOPLE take on FB at different times, is something akin to the MMPI.

That instrument will ask different questions throughout the inventory where the questions are so far apart and are slightly tweaked, that it can reveal more about a person, even though they know their answers are being assessed. It can reveal discrepancies and contradictions just by spacing the questions far apart. The MMPI is loooooong.

So whether it's info from various timeframes on FB, info from various LE interviews/statements or polys, information told to friends or teachers etc, all of it can come together to reveal contradictions over time in one's story. This undoubtedly plays a role in how and why LE focus on certain people.

Just my opinions.

I thought someone had counted the pictures early on and found something like 32 out of 54 had Kyron in them. I'm searching for the posts but it's difficult to search on a number. I'm trying to think of a good keyword to hit on it.

 

[ella971]

We understand that we are holding you all back some. But until we have something more from LE about who it is they are looking at, we are trying to protect people who may be innocent. I know you are all eager...... that is great. Just hold on, hopefully it won't be long. :blowkiss: to all.

Oh my! Me like this post...ALOT! Thanks!

 

[CaringCitizen]

I thought someone had counted the pictures early on and found something like 32 out of 54 had Kyron in them. I'm searching for the posts but it's difficult to search on a number. I'm trying to think of a good keyword to hit on it.

Hi BeanE - I have never seen anyone else's analysis on it but the #s they gave you here would be incorrect. The denominator alone, would be a figure in the hundreds, not 54.

Would love to see the post on it!!

 

[glorybug]

If anyone is going to be armchair psychoanalyzing just 'how' many pictures there were of Kyron vs his half-sister, please try to do it in an at least half-logical way.

As in, when you think about it, EVERYONE takes more pictures of babies and toddlers than they do of children who are older, teens and adults. It's just a fact. Babies have more milestones to document. Once they hit about 5, it usually slacks off a bit.

Presumably Kyron is at school for a good part of the day. Baby is at home with SM, so plenty more opportunity to take pics of her.

Did SM have a facebook when Kyron was 2? Probably not, therefore there would be no way to compare whether the amount of photos taken of him THEN is the same as the number of pics taken of the toddler NOW. I know for a fact I take less pics of them now that my kids are older.

The family released more pics- one of my observations is that either they careflly weeded out all pics with SM, or she (like me) was the 'family photographer'. If you looked at all the photos of my kids, it would look like their father was a single dad at the time, because I was the only one to take pics- of him and the boys. He never took pics of me and our boys. That's one nice thing about my fiance- he goes out of his way to take pictures of me with my boys. It's kind of nice to have pics of me with them instead of always being on the outside.

It bothers me when people grab on to ANY perceived detail and twist it to fit a theory they are already married to, when if they looked at it objectively it would appear to have no relevance at all. What I would find suspicious (in photos) would be if there were NO pics of Kyron at all, and if all of the pics on SMs FB were posed pictures of herself, the baby and biodad- with Kyron excluded. I see no evidence that has happened.

I am not saying SM is not involved. For that matter, I'm not saying any of the parents aren't involved, until LE provides facts that state any of them have been absolutely cleared. What I am saying is that pics on a FB are really questionable proof of anyone's thought processes or proof of guilt. It's all subjective- it's all however the viewer wants to spin it to fit their theory. In other words, not factual at all. I'll wait patiently for the facts. When it comes to accusing people of crimes, I prefer not to feel like I should apologize for mean things I've said about family members I don't know- when the truth comes out and proves people wrong.

I thought someone had counted the pictures early on and found something like 32 out of 54 had Kyron in them. I'm searching for the posts but it's difficult to search on a number. I'm trying to think of a good keyword to hit on it.

 

[CaringCitizen]

...What I am saying is that pics on a FB are really questionable proof of anyone's thought processes or proof of guilt. It's all subjective- it's all however the viewer wants to spin it to fit their theory. In other words, not factual at all. I'll wait patiently for the facts. When it comes to accusing people of crimes, I prefer not to feel like I should apologize for mean things I've said about family members I don't know- when the truth comes out and proves people wrong.

Respectfully, I haven't seen anyone post "mean" anything on this fine board. If they had, it would have been deleted before anyone even saw it.

Every thread on the Kyron part of the board varies in specific topic detail. Since this is the FB topic, we were talking about aspects of FB. No conclusions are being drawn by anyone here, on the FB aspects alone.

Whether they are significant to you or not, the overall patterns in the FB behavior do play some role in what LE looks at in cases now. This case included. :innocent:

 

[txsvicki]

I think people looking at FB things have their own opinions. The pics don't seem like a big deal to me, but it's the statements, and one of them would concern me about any kids if the person was named a suspect. If not, then it was just some possible complaining to a friend.

 

[Dee10]

Q: Does TH's FB give us any clues?

A: nope

Ahhh but we learned in an interview today, that Kaine has no knowledge of the comment regarding the gym after Kyron went missing and believed the gym comment was made before, not after (to his knowledge). Oddly defensive of this, yet we saw the video of both of them coming from the gym & the FB quote has been all over the news. What does this mean...IDK. Do they talk??? Not trying to dis Kaine, but (jokingly) it reminded me of someone who has said "IDK Miz Nancy, I wasn't there."

(Almost very end of tape) - http://www.kgw.com/video/featured-videos/Raw-Kyrons-parents-full-interview-97177194.html

 

[cj1132]

I'd be the one making the comment "this is my real daughter" as she's making a face. It would be meant as a joke and the people who knew me would know that and it would not be meant for people who did not know me. Years ago, I can remember telling friends that I could complain about my kids but if anyone else tried to say anything about them, I'd be like a mama bear defending her cubs.