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I wasnt crazy about Dr Phil's approach either, he kept asking the other guest her advise for BK, well her situation is totally different she has her family to fill in the blanks, pix of her past, etc he doesn't.. Wish he would have spent more time focusing on BK :(
 
Ok - Let me start by saying that I am NOT a fan of Dr. Phil - AT ALL! I taped this show today and watched it when I got home from work and it is honestly the first, (and probably last!) entire Dr. Phil show I have ever seen!

That being said - I thought it was awesome for Benjaman! I am very pleased with the information he was able to share and I'm especially happy that they took extra steps to add real credibility to amnesia generally. I think a lot of folks are really skeptical about it and they put a real, human and believable face to it. I don't think anyone could come away from this show without feeling real sympathy for Benjaman and hopefully with a determination to help him find out who he is and where he belongs.

It was so exciting to actually see this lovely gentleman and I am so hopeful that, within the next 24 - 48 hours, believe09 will let us know that credible tips are pouring in! I hope that by this time next week, Benjaman will be well on his way home.
 
Count me among those who felt Benjaman should have been allowed to speak more - to hear his voice, to see his mannerisms when he spoke, to speak on his intuitive memories to get the feel of where he feels he's been, what he may have once done, etc.

I also was disappointed that the past surgerical evidences weren't even mentioned. I have family members that I haven't seen in 20 years - I sincerely doubt I'd recognize them if they passed me on the street - but if they mentioned something that important (as a surgery) it would likely shake the senses into recognizing the face. Someone may have been watching that that info would have jarred them into recognizing Benjaman.

Those things aside, I am so happy he got the air time and pray it leads to a good result.
 
I will say, it would have been wonderful if WS had been given a shout out. There has been a such a tremendous amount of research on Benjaman's case here. Valuable, in-depth sleuthing that can be so useful to anyone interested in helping Benjaman. But, anyone sincerely wanting to help will, no doubt, find their way here. I'm just grateful for the exposure for Benjaman!
 
A few comments about his guess at his birthdate...

1. He was found Aug 31st, 2004. If he thinks his birthdate is Aug 29th (Micheal Jacksons birthday), he may have been in the Savannah area to celebrate his birthday? He was found just a few days after.

2. I am going through the social security death index with the birthdate of August 29, 1948. I am currently looking under CO and IN as issue states. Perhaps he was declared dead and is listed there? I don't know what I am looking for, but I will let you know if I find anything interesting...


I'm so glad he is getting this national exposure. I thought the show was interesting. Not quite the angle I had expected, but interesting. Believe, now that the show has been aired will we have access to any additional behind the scenes information which we may not have been privy to earlier? Such as the diocese/possible area in Indianapolis they have 'narrowed'.

I found it interesting the show mentioned little on his memories of Colorado and that he seemed pretty 'certain' he shared a birth date with Michael Jackson but was exactly 10 years older than him to the day.

I pray they get some legitimate leads and they additional assistance offered pans out. Will we be privy to what that might be? Just curious.

It was also interesting to put a face to NB.
 
This is O/T, but I have to say Patty...YOU ARE THE BOMB!! I have seen you here and on Caylees thread and various other places around here, and I am so impressed with how you joined websleuths, rolled up your sleeves and dove in. Thank you for all you do here!!:clap::blowkiss:
I recorded Dr. Phil and if you want me to upload it here, I can do it at some point tomorrow. Just let me know.
 
I've been working on this angle most of this evening. I haven't found anything remotely interesting but who knows..it may lead somewhere.

A few comments about his guess at his birthdate...


2. I am going through the social security death index with the birthdate of August 29, 1948. I am currently looking under CO and IN as issue states. Perhaps he was declared dead and is listed there? I don't know what I am looking for, but I will let you know if I find anything interesting...
 
Oh good thinking with the birthdate Julessleuther! If not his birthdate, perhaps the date stands out to him for some other similar reason. Someone elses birthdate and he had celebrated with them just prior to the incident that lead us to know him.
 
RK:

There is a RB Dorland from Indiana, with a death date of Oct 11th, 2003. His last residence is listed as FO. Do you know what that means?

Also, if someone were declared dead, what would their death date be? The last date they were seen?

Believe, I have a question for you: Since you have talked to him, has he ever mentioned any memories of being in the military? He is of the age that he could have been drafted for Vietnam. Is there any chance at all that he could have been declared dead in Vietnam, but came home and drifted for all those years? Maybe that is why his family is not looking for him, because they think that their son/husband etc died in Vietnam?
 
If the Vietnam idea is at all viable, here are some links to MIA/POW for both Indiana and Colorado. Just click on the unaccounted for PDF's for each state.

http://www.dtic.mil/dpmo/pmsea/HTML/HTML/files_full.htm#usaf


Ok, one thing I found. There is a Charles R Brownlee listed MIA from Alamosa, CO. When I looked for him for ssdi, there was none listed for CO, but there was one listed from Indiana, with a death date of Nov 18, 2003. It may be absolutely nothing, but was interesting...
 
Ok, more info:

I also found a Benjamin Kyle born Jan 1979 and died Dec 1983. Ohio A son???

There were definitely Kyle relatives in Indiana. There is actually a Clifford Kyle with the birthdate of August 28, 1913, and died in Aug 1970. Perhaps his father?

There are also Kyles in the Denver area too.


There is also a Marion Benjamin who was from Florida, born AUG 28, 1940 but died in SAVANNAH, GA in July 2000 -VERY interesting...

EDIT: Marion Benjamin was married to a man named Oscar Benjamin, and they were divorced in Florida. I do not have an ancestry.com account, so I do not know when they married and divorced, but this is the same Marion Benjamin who died in Savannah.

Here is her obit, no mention of Oscar:

Marion D. BenjaminMarion De
Lois Benjamin, 59, of Savannah, died July 9.
She was born in Jacksonville, Fla., and was a disabled Army veteran.
SURVIVORS: two sisters, Mildred Littles and Elma Philips, both of Warner Robins; two aunts, Roberta Rawls of Rochelle and Ruthie Mae Williams of Warner Robins; an uncle, Mathis Rawls of Rochelle; and a niece, Janine Littles of Savannah.
MEMORIAL SERVICE: 1 p.m. Saturday at Piney Grove Baptist Church, Rochelle. McCullough Funeral Home, Warner Robins.


There is a listing on zabasearch for a Kyle Benjamin for Bloomington, IN. There is a listing for Bryan Kyle in Denver.
 
I've been working on this angle most of this evening. I haven't found anything remotely interesting but who knows..it may lead somewhere.


Perfect-please let us know anything-consider that it might be the birthdate of a loved one or someone who was close to BK as well...
 
RK:

There is a RB Dorland from Indiana, with a death date of Oct 11th, 2003. His last residence is listed as FO. Do you know what that means?

Also, if someone were declared dead, what would their death date be? The last date they were seen?

Believe, I have a question for you: Since you have talked to him, has he ever mentioned any memories of being in the military? He is of the age that he could have been drafted for Vietnam. Is there any chance at all that he could have been declared dead in Vietnam, but came home and drifted for all those years? Maybe that is why his family is not looking for him, because they think that their son/husband etc died in Vietnam?

Excellent question-he has many varied memories of his past...profound events and mundane. The military has never ever been a part of it, I have to say.

He remembers presidents and administrations, world events, corporate mergers-he has been hypnotized and regressed during the last few years.

For those who may be reading as a result of the show, psychics have been involved in his case and I will spare you my very harsh opinion of how it went. I would have had less problem with it if it were not for the shocking cost of each reading....
 
Excellent question-he has many varied memories of his past...profound events and mundane. The military has never ever been a part of it, I have to say.

He remembers presidents and administrations, world events, corporate mergers-he has been hypnotized and regressed during the last few years.

For those who may be reading as a result of the show, psychics have been involved in his case and I will spare you my very harsh opinion of how it went. I would have had less problem with it if it were not for the shocking cost of each reading....

(My bold)

That is just infuriating!!!! I am still praying that Benjaman hears something soon. He looked so nervoues on the show, imo. I can't even begin to imagine what he must be feeling.
 
Excellent question-he has many varied memories of his past...profound events and mundane. The military has never ever been a part of it, I have to say.

He remembers presidents and administrations, world events, corporate mergers-he has been hypnotized and regressed during the last few years.

For those who may be reading as a result of the show, psychics have been involved in his case and I will spare you my very harsh opinion of how it went. I would have had less problem with it if it were not for the shocking cost of each reading....

Oh man...That's awful!!! Poor guy!! I feel really bad for him and to have people just take advantage of him like that is just beyond words! :furious:
 
What about researching the birth dates for specific people on our list that we haven't ruled out? And possibly even place of birth if that's accessible online...
 
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