Dr. Phil w/George and Cindy Anthony Air Date 9/13 and 9/14 2011 Thead # 2

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  • #821
I think George came into the marriage with those defaults, a sociopathic wife was a really bad combo, add one sociopathic daughter. He chose doormat status.

Absolutely. That is how he learned to tolerate and endure it.

Often a man will marry a woman much like their mother. I have often wondered if his own mom was a very controlling domineering woman. I just get the feeling sometimes that George thinks this is just the way it is supposed to be in a marriage.

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  • #822
Nothing weak about Georgie IMO. Frankly, I even think that he has a violent temper that he controls pretty good.. He is a free loader period and will use any avenue to get easy money. Even stupid ones like gambling or Nigerian scams because his greed will take over his common sense . He has found his niche now and will hang around CA until he will not financial benefit from it anymore. If he thought , he can do financially better solo, he will leave her in a New York minute.

That is exactly how I feel about him.

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I wish Dr Phil had asked one more question. "how do you live for three years without an income?"
I would love to know the answer to that question.
I suspect millions of people would love to know the answer to that question. Trips to the Bahamas, escaping losing their house, to say nothing to clothes, new cars??

Just sayin..
The whole interview was useless. Did it really tell you anything you didn't know?

I sometimes think we are being taken for a nation of fools.

Poor little Caylee. There is no end to the greed.

The questions were approved by the A's attorney ahead of time. They had their answers (also approved by their attorney) ready as well.

I did not and will not watch Phil but to those who did, did he bring up Cindy's Myspace post? If he did, what was her answer?

MOO MOO MOO
 
  • #825
Little is known about George's background. Here is what has been said:

He is an ex-police detective. (How long was he in LE and when/why did he leave the force?)

His family was/is in the car sales business in Ohio.

He supposedly "put his father through a plate glass window." (The back story...is not known.)

He was married before CA. (Did he meet CA before he was divorced? How/When did they meet?)

Supposedly his ex-wife has said negative things about George. (Did he and his first wife have any children?)

We have been told that he was the one in charge of keeping the cars clean and taking care of mowing the lawn.

He said he got a large worker's comp settlement. (But does anyone really know the details of the accident that caused him to file the claim?)

In 2008, he took the job as a security officer.

He has a brother whose child got married this summer.

But is there any detail to any of these back stories? When did they/he and CA get married...was CA already a nurse? Was George in LE when they got married?

Why did they leave Ohio?

Was Cindy pregnant with Lee before or after the marriage?

Has anything been determined about his mother or any other siblings?

The answer to some of these questions would be enlightening.
 
  • #826
The questions were approved by the A's attorney ahead of time. They had their answers (also approved by their attorney) ready as well.

I did not and will not watch Phil but to those who did, did he bring up Cindy's Myspace post? If he did, what was her answer?

MOO MOO MOO

He did bring up her myspace post. He even had it displayed on a big screen when he did.
 
  • #827
I think when George said he regretted that he didn't do more to prevent what happened, like stay home on the 16th and watched Caylee himself, he really was not saying all he really regretted. I think he knew things were bad that day but he didn't intervene, and he also regrets not manning up and laying the law down on Casey all along, against Cindy's insistence that he just shut up. That is why he feels he failed Caylee. That regret will haunt him until he comes to terms with it by confronting Cindy the controller head on. He can't be that person anymore and survive this. Has he recognized this yet? I have to wonder.

GA had years to go to the detectives and tell them the truth, the WHOLE truth, and nothing but the truth. He didn't. He failed Caylee again. It's a little late now to tell his version of truth while FCA enjoys the freedom Caylee didn't live long enough to see. It's all about HIS reputation now because he was labeled a pedophile and their latest source of income, another charity.

Memories of GA on the stand and under oath, his arrogance is astounding:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-XdZnfdtJE"]George Anthony - Zenaida Gonzalez video deposition, April 9th 2009 (Casey Anthony) - Part 1 - YouTube[/ame]

IMO
 
  • #828
Little is known about George's background. Here is what has been said:

He is an ex-police detective. (How long was he in LE and when/why did he leave the force?)

His family was/is in the car sales business in Ohio.

He supposedly "put his father through a plate glass window." (The back story...is not known.)

He was married before CA. (Did he meet CA before he was divorced? How/When did they meet?)

Supposedly his ex-wife has said negative things about George. (Did he and his first wife have any children?)

We have been told that he was the one in charge of keeping the cars clean and taking care of mowing the lawn.

He said he got a large worker's comp settlement. (But does anyone really know the details of the accident that caused him to file the claim?)

In 2008, he took the job as a security officer.

He has a brother whose child got married this summer.

But is there any detail to any of these back stories? When did they/he and CA get married...was CA already a nurse? Was George in LE when they got married?

Why did they leave Ohio?

Was Cindy pregnant with Lee before or after the marriage?

Has anything been determined about his mother or any other siblings?

The answer to some of these questions would be enlightening.

The answers are in their depositions.
 
  • #829
Little is known about George's background. Here is what has been said:

He is an ex-police detective. (How long was he in LE and when/why did he leave the force?)

His family was/is in the car sales business in Ohio.

He supposedly "put his father through a plate glass window." (The back story...is not known.)

He was married before CA. (Did he meet CA before he was divorced? How/When did they meet?)

Supposedly his ex-wife has said negative things about George. (Did he and his first wife have any children?)

We have been told that he was the one in charge of keeping the cars clean and taking care of mowing the lawn.

He said he got a large worker's comp settlement. (But does anyone really know the details of the accident that caused him to file the claim?)

In 2008, he took the job as a security officer.

He has a brother whose child got married this summer.

But is there any detail to any of these back stories? When did they/he and CA get married...was CA already a nurse? Was George in LE when they got married?

Why did they leave Ohio?

Was Cindy pregnant with Lee before or after the marriage?

Has anything been determined about his mother or any other siblings?

The answer to some of these questions would be enlightening.

I do remember I read an article where one of his family members said he was a good Christian man but I cant remember where I read that after this long.

It may have been his brother in Ohio or his sister in law.

IMO
 
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GA had years to go to the detectives and tell them the truth, the WHOLE truth, and nothing but the truth. He didn't. He failed Caylee again. It's a little late now to tell his version of truth while FCA enjoys the freedom Caylee didn't live long enough to see. It's all about HIS reputation now because he was labeled a pedophile and their latest source of income, another charity.

Memories of GA on the stand and under oath, his arrogance is astounding:

George Anthony - Zenaida Gonzalez video deposition, April 9th 2009 (Casey Anthony) - Part 1 - YouTube

IMO

I don't really particularly care what either of them said before the trial since I am sure they WERE wanting to believe someone else was responsible. Anyone but their own daughter.

What I care about is what both of them testified to in court three years later and IMO George Anthony NEVER rolled over for his daughter. He said clearly, 1+1=2. In fact he was accused by the DT of throwing Casey under the bus.

Now Cindy..........well Cindy even got worse and willingly perjured herself on the witness stand and she is the one that failed Caylee, imo.

IMO
 
  • #832
Regarding George's "Brotherhood of Police Officers" status, he's the one that first blew off what this connection could have done for justice in this case.

If you are an ex police officer and had not seen your daughter or your granddaughter for several days, and then you receive a notice that her car was towed several days earlier, and when you go to retrieve the car, as the tow truck operator is walking you to the where it is impounded, you smell what you are 100% sure is the smell of a decomposing body, do you:

A. Retrieve the car and head to work like nothing happened.; or

B. Immediately call your daughter and if you can't reach her, call everyone on the planet, PARTICULARLY your "Brotherhood", until you do to make sure both she or your granddaughter are all right?

It is my opinion that had George Anthony done what he KNEW was the right thing and not moved or touched that car until LE arrived, true justice would have been much more straightforward in this case.

Someone ignorant of the smell of death without any law enforcement background could possibly be excused for driving the car home for his wife to scrub and thereby destroy evidence, but an ex detective? Bullchit!

I don't give a crap about his blubbering on the witness stand. I don't give a crap about his paid performance on television shows. George Anthony knew the right thing to do the day he picked that car up and purposefully failed to do it.

Actions speak louder than words, and any words he may have for the "Doctor" Phils of this world can NEVER drown out the volume of what he did.

You are exactly right. But as an ex-LE he knew what he was smelling all right but also knew that CA had been in touch with KC so he knew it was not KC. That being said he was not going to call LE until he got to the bottom of what was going on. IMO CA said, "Go to work, I'll get in touch with KC and get to the bottom of it and make her bring me to Caylee tonight." GA did text LA with the message that KC was in big trouble. Any parent immediately goes into protective mode until they can make sense of what is going on. GA said himself that no one wants to believe that someone you love would do such a thing. I am not trying to excuse his actions only trying to explain how an ex-LE might think sometimes because of the way they have been conditioned. jmo
 
  • #833
:hug:
The bureaucracy that surrounds child abuse cases is mind boggling. I could tell you horrific stories about grandparents that got custody children I was fostering,when they shouldn't have.
It seems like there is no common sense being used .It's political and decisions have more to do with clearing the stacks of paperwork than finding the best solution for the child.
There are some really good ,caring caseworkers ,judges and lawyers,but not enough of them to make a dent .
It's a National Tragedy and we see the horrific results right here at WS.

I'm right there with you Azcrabcakes. We adopted 4 of our foster children and I'm the grade school mom with gray hair and aching feet . My older children (34,31 and 27 ) have friends with kids in school with my kids. :crazy:

MissJames, I've ready many of your posts. I'm so sorry that you lost your son. :grouphug:

I just wanted to say that you are one of those unsung heroes that we rarely see on the news. Every time I see your yellow butterfly I stop to read your post.

THANK YOU!
 
  • #834
I did not see the two interviews and will not watch the third one ... but I will continue to read here at WS for the great reports !

One question I wished DP would have asked about is the "FIGHT" between Cindy and Casey on the evening of June 15, 2008.

:seeya: It's too bad that DP didn't read this BEFORE his interview with the A's ... he may have learned something ! I think the "fight" was the "straw that broke the camel's back" ... and I believe that that is WHY Cindy "defends" Casey so much ...

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5917036&postcount=1"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Details Emerge: Casey/Cindy Fight - Part 3[/ame]


It is 'my opinion' this "fight" is the ONE thing that should have been brought out at trial that was NOT brought into evidence ... I know there would have been objections as it being "hearsay" but it still should have brought in because it would have proved MOTIVE !

Cindy KNOWS that that "fight" on 6-15-08 was what led to CFCA taking Caylee's life ! And she knows what kind of "manipulator" CFCA and herself ARE, and had to make like a "pact" with CFCA -- like I'll defend you -- you just keep your mouth shut about our "fight" !

But we know that Cindy will NEVER EVER TELL about that "fight" ... it's about "appearances" ...

I hope that made sense ... trying to figure out this "family" makes you go :crazy:

MOO MOO MOO ...
 
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what made me sick is how ca said that ( basically in a nutshell) fca had to be innocent b/c god had been behind it/fca being found not guilty and caylee didnt want her mom to be villifed on an accidental death)- PUHLEEZE!!! (IMO) she was found not guilty b/c the jury didnt do their job!!! and i think god was NOT happy about the ruling hence not one lightning strike by the "memorial" tree, but a SECOND one right by the jail the evening of( or before) fca got released..coincidence??? perhaps.but maybe not..sure theres a lot of lightning in FL, its the #1 ranked state of lightning strikes. but the fact those TWO places got struck??? hmmmm
.THATS how i see it.and of course JMO only!
i am morbidly curious on the third interview how the ?s of the pedo claims/what they will have to say and what they would do if fca should happen to show up on their doorstep...
 
  • #837
You are exactly right. But as an ex-LE he knew what he was smelling all right but also knew that CA had been in touch with KC so he knew it was not KC. That being said he was not going to call LE until he got to the bottom of what was going on. IMO CA said, "Go to work, I'll get in touch with KC and get to the bottom of it and make her bring me to Caylee tonight." GA did text LA with the message that KC was in big trouble. Any parent immediately goes into protective mode until they can make sense of what is going on. GA said himself that no one wants to believe that someone you love would do such a thing. I am not trying to excuse his actions only trying to explain how an ex-LE might think sometimes because of the way they have been conditioned. jmo

iirc in the beg of the cases, ( detective? LE) asked him he was an ex cop, why is he not doing what cops do in these cases, ie, look at the people closest to the victim/the disappeared in this case( ahem fca) and his response to that = because his wife( ca) didnt want him to...and again let me stress IIRC. i could be wrong, but i think im about 90% certian this subject/question came up and thats how it was answered, because ca didnt want him to.
 
  • #838
I don't really particularly care what either of them said before the trial since I am sure they WERE wanting to believe someone else was responsible. Anyone but their own daughter.

What I care about is what both of them testified to in court three years later and IMO George Anthony NEVER rolled over for his daughter. He said clearly, 1+1=2. In fact he was accused by the DT of throwing Casey under the bus.

Now Cindy..........well Cindy even got worse and willingly perjured herself on the witness stand and she is the one that failed Caylee, imo.

IMO

He knew Caylee was dead and he flew all over the place to spew his lies and collect a handout. He knew that smell was decomp but it morphed into pizza. When he found out there was no pizza, the odor turned into garbage.

How could anyone with a conscience set up a fake foundation and collect money for a child he knew was dead? That is fraud. It did not take him years to come up with 1 + 1 = 2. He knew the rare duct tape over Caylee's face and head was his but the lies kept coming.

I have no doubt his testimony would have been completely different if he hadn't been labeled a pedophile.

He participated in every 'Casey if innocent' tour. GA does what's best for GA. Like father like daughter. Same with CA.

BBM - Check out the Morgan depos and what GA said under oath. It was perfectly fine for him to lie under oath until he became a target. George is for George.

I still remember one of the detective telling GA he knew a lot about a lot of things. I guess that's up for interpretation but I believe the detective was referring to GA knowing more about Caylee's death than he was willing to tell.

IMO
 
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He knew Caylee was dead and he flew all over the place to spew his lies and collect a handout. He knew that smell was decomp but it morphed into pizza. When he found out there was no pizza, the odor turned into garbage.

How could anyone with a conscience set up a fake foundation and collect money for a child he knew was dead? That is fraud. It did not take him years to come up with 1 + 1 = 2. He knew the rare duct tape over Caylee's face and head was his but the lies kept coming.

I have no doubt his testimony would have been completely different if he hadn't been labeled a pedophile.

He participated in every 'Casey if innocent' tour. GA does what's best for GA. Like father like daughter. Same with CA.

BBM - Check out the Morgan depos and what GA said under oath. It was perfectly fine for him to lie under oath until he became a target. George is for George.

IMO

These were for the civil case so I think at the time both of them were not going to cooperate because they felt the bus might be coming their way in terms of being sued. No reason for them to lie but I believe that is why they were so defensive. They took it personally. jmo
 
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