Dr. Phil's Interview w/ George & Cindy Anthony - Thread #3

[MarthaM]

I always wondered why the SA didn't use that liner as evidence..the stain on the liner???

My guess is that they knew that the defense could just call a different expert who could make a different outline that showed something else altogether, or that could dissect each element that the prosecution's outline allegedly shows and match it up to something else it could be. I think it would have really hurt the prosecution in the end if they'd used it, and led to an even quicker NG verdict. It might have looked like the prosecution was really reaching to try and find/create evidence.

Why would they need to talk about an interview?

Maybe they said what they wanted to say during the interview. Isn't that the purpose of an interview?

I'm not understanding the need to give interviews or statements to talk about an interview.

JMO

I don't understand why they'd talk about it afterwards, either, or why it would be odd that they haven't. It's not like anything significant came out of the interview anyway; it was really pretty bland when you look back on it. I suppose a reporter could ask them how they thought the interview went, but even that's not newsworthy.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

They have been quiet since the interview, haven't they? Not even a peep from Lippman. I hope that means that they realize just how bad this interview was for them and their charity. Maybe they'll go away now. I can still hope!

BBM: Good point -- if you are starting a "foundation" and seeking donations, would you get on national TV and DEFEND your "daughter" who was convicted of check fraud and 4 counts of lying to LE, and in My Opinion, who "murdered" her daughter -- your granddaughter ?

And yes, the Anthony's have been awfully "quiet" since the 1st interview aired over a week ago -- which is "extremely unusual" for the Anthony's !

The A's NEVER miss an opportunity to "smile" and "wave" for the cameras :sick: They "thrived" on the "attention" when the media was set up at Hope Spring Drive ... :sick: I am hoping that the media has had ENOUGH of the Anthony's and have "moved on".

And I hope their "foundation" is an EPIC FAIL !

As always, MOO ...

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Hey dog.gone.cute..I find it refreshing! Maybe they didn't like the thousands of comments that flooded Dr. P facebook, twitter and message board expressing their outrage at the A's? This is how Dr. P started the third interview.

Hi, MsMacGyver ! I am happy to hear that Phil was "flooded" with negative comments about the Anthony's :great::great: ... especially since Cindy continued to "defend" her daughter :sick:

I hope the rest of the media TH's who are "considering" having the Anthony's on their show will re-think this !

MOO ...

 

[MarthaM]

Hi, MsMacGyver ! I am happy to hear that Phil was "flooded" with negative comments about the Anthony's :great::great: ... especially since Cindy continued to "defend" her daughter :sick:

I hope the rest of the media TH's who are "considering" having the Anthony's on their show will re-think this !

MOO ...

It'll probably have the opposite effect. High ratings, lots of post-interview attention... I don't know that more shows will want George & Cindy on anytime soon, unless they figure out a new and different approach so that it's not more of the same. But now that they know for sure how many people will tune in and keep talking about the show after it airs, they'll be looking for other ways to take advantage of the interest in this case. We haven't seen the last Anthony interview, I don't think.

And before the year is over, I think we'll see THE interview that all the talk shows really want. The Casey interview.

 

[Solace]

"A report by Florida's child welfare agency says Casey Anthony failed to protect her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee, which ultimately resulted in the child's death."

http://www.wftv.com/news/28835839/detail.html

Granted, this report doesn't say "Children under the care of Casey Anthony are in danger," but it comes as close to that as they legally could. . . and I heartily agree!

Cindy sat there at the original ss interview and listened as KC told them that she tried to find her daughter and when she couldn't she came home and told her parents.

 

[Sustained]

It'll probably have the opposite effect. High ratings, lots of post-interview attention... I don't know that more shows will want George & Cindy on anytime soon, unless they figure out a new and different approach so that it's not more of the same. But now that they know for sure how many people will tune in and keep talking about the show after it airs, they'll be looking for other ways to take advantage of the interest in this case. We haven't seen the last Anthony interview, I don't think.

And before the year is over, I think we'll see THE interview that all the talk shows really want. The Casey interview.

Now Casey ... repeat after me ... she drowned in the pool and I panicked ... she drowned in the pool and I panicked ... she drowned in the pool and ...

 

[hornswoggled]

It pained me to hear George and Cindy say that Casey "had to have had help" in Caylee's departure from here. Bull. It obviously doesn't take much to do in a 2 1/2 year old kid - especially if you duct tape their mouth and very likely drug them. Look at all the pictures we have seen of Casey holding Caylee. Caylee was not a tiny child for her age. As Cindy stated, she was at the upper end of the growth chart. Casey had enough strength and rage to get the job done, bag the child up and move her from the trunk to the swamp.

Also, she decided on Caylee's "resting place" all by herself. No outside help would have agreed to dump Caylee at the end of the street. That was plain stupid. BUT, Casey was in heat and she had plans that she had no intention of altering for her child. She was fixated on getting to Tony's because he was off the next day, and she fully intended to spend the night and next day with him - which he stated they had a "grand old time". I have looked at the phone records, and I agree with other posters here that have stated she was looking for a babysitter. (flurry of phone calls). Mom and Dad were not being cooperative with her.

Casey Anthony did this deed all alone. If there had been "others" as her parents seem to think, Caylee would never have been found.

 

[Tipstaff]

BBM: Good point -- if you are starting a "foundation" and seeking donations, would you get on national TV and DEFEND your "daughter" who was convicted of check fraud and 4 counts of lying to LE, and in My Opinion, who "murdered" her daughter -- your granddaughter ?

And yes, the Anthony's have been awfully "quiet" since the 1st interview aired over a week ago -- which is "extremely unusual" for the Anthony's !

The A's NEVER miss an opportunity to "smile" and "wave" for the cameras :sick: They "thrived" on the "attention" when the media was set up at Hope Spring Drive ... :sick: I am hoping that the media has had ENOUGH of the Anthony's and have "moved on".

And I hope their "foundation" is an EPIC FAIL

As always, MOO ...

Am betting as part of the deal with Dr. Phil the A's will have gotten and are on an extended vacation at an exotic and secret location. You know they will need time to 'bond and recover' after rehashing their story to Dr. Phil. In a week or two they will be back in the public eye ginning up funds for their 'foundaiton'.:maddening:

 

[Tipstaff]

Now Casey ... repeat after me ... she drowned in the pool and I panicked ... she drowned in the pool and I panicked ... she drowned in the pool and ...

She has had 3 years to practice.

 

[tsitra01]

Hi, MsMacGyver ! I am happy to hear that Phil was "flooded" with negative comments about the Anthony's :great::great: ... especially since Cindy continued to "defend" her daughter :sick:

I hope the rest of the media TH's who are "considering" having the Anthony's on their show will re-think this !

MOO ...

ITA, I hope the many negative comments from the viewing public put the brakes on any further "interviews " with the Anthonys. It is so obvious they are still trying to please OCA and will greet her with open arms should she choose to come back.
CA and Ga knew for years OCA had some very serious problems and did nothing. Cindy contributed to the outcome in all of this. I don't see her in denial at all. She and OCA are so alike. Did Cindy think this session with Dr. Phil would be her platform to excuse OCA for everything including the death of Caylee? Sure sounded like it. She even excused throwing Caylee in the swamp.Sure doesn't sound like a caring grandmother to me. More insane IMO.

 

[GracieLu]

I disagree.

Nobody is to blame for Caylee's death but Casey.

She is an adult. She decided her own actions. Her actions killed Caylee.


Cindy shares no blame in this.

Like her or not, IMO saying she is partly to blame for Caylee's death is just not factual.

JMO

with all due respect, a lot of respect, i disagree ...

I understand that Casey was an adult and responsible for her actions but I cannot believe (especially after watching the cringe-worthy jail house tapes) that there weren't any serious red flags that Casey had some "mental" issues a lot earlier. Her parents had to know something was wrong (it took me 15 minutes to figure that out yet they had 20+ years). I have a feeling there is a lot we don't know (probably chalked up to "oh, that's just Casey.") Couple this with the recent Dr. P. interview where Cindy Anthony states something like "well, Caylee was in heaven" downplaying the fact that she was thrown in a swamp... this clearly shows (imo)that Cindy makes excuses for Casey. Maybe if she had not made excuses prior and treated Casey like an adult who should have been responsible for her actions, Caylee would be alive today...

Don't want to offend but not going to lie and say I don't throw some blame at Cindy Anthony...

 

[Shyla]

Why would they need to talk about an interview?

Maybe they said what they wanted to say during the interview. Isn't that the purpose of an interview?

I'm not understanding the need to give interviews or statements to talk about an interview.

JMO

Well, that is the cycle the Anthony's have trained us to expect.

 

[GracieLu]

It pained me to hear George and Cindy say that Casey "had to have had help" in Caylee's departure from here. Bull. It obviously doesn't take much to do in a 2 1/2 year old kid - especially if you duct tape their mouth and very likely drug them. Look at all the pictures we have seen of Casey holding Caylee. Caylee was not a tiny child for her age. As Cindy stated, she was at the upper end of the growth chart. Casey had enough strength and rage to get the job done, bag the child up and move her from the trunk to the swamp.

Also, she decided on Caylee's "resting place" all by herself. No outside help would have agreed to dump Caylee at the end of the street. That was plain stupid. BUT, Casey was in heat and she had plans that she had no intention of altering for her child. She was fixated on getting to Tony's because he was off the next day, and she fully intended to spend the night and next day with him - which he stated they had a "grand old time". I have looked at the phone records, and I agree with other posters here that have stated she was looking for a babysitter. (flurry of phone calls). Mom and Dad were not being cooperative with her.

Casey Anthony did this deed all alone. If there had been "others" as her parents seem to think, Caylee would never have been found.

I couldn't agree more... great post!

 

[rotterdam]

Exactly how is not working, stealing from everyone, and partying being a good mother? This wasn't some young girl trying to make ends meet and raise a child. This was a young woman inconvenienced by a baby in her life, and when her mother actually wanted her to be an actual mother to that baby, Casey said NO in the ultimate way by killing her. I don't think she was good mother. I don't think she even wanted to be a mother. I think she had Caylee because Cindy wanted her to, maybe even promised she would raise Caylee and Casey wouldn't have to do anything. Casey never bonded with Caylee or cared about her. If she did, she never would have resorted to murder to get her Bella Vita life back. I'm not placing the blame squarely on Cindy's shoulders. Cindy did too little, too late, IMO. She should have started making Casey be responsible from childhood instead of trying to make her be responsible as an adult.

Also, let us not forget that KC apparently wanted to adopt Caylee out according to Kiomarie's testimony. But Cindy would not let her for what I suspect, selfish reasons.. May be there is a lesson in that for other grand parents. You can not force someone to be a mother.
Wish Dr. Phil had asked a question about that.

 

[JSR]

I don't think Casey is a homicidal maniac. I'm not worried about her going around and killing children willy nilly for no reason. What her problem is that she doesn't give one carp about the health and welfare of children. She doesn't care about anyone's health and welfare but her own. I wouldn't let her watch my kids or my parents, or even my husband because I know that she would neglect all of them for her own satisfaction. I know even further that she would get tired of the responsibility and either let the person die by neglect or kill them herself to get her Bella Vita life back. She has shown she is willing to murder for her own sake.

Also, neglect can be just as bad, if not worse than going around murdering people. The only difference is that society as a whole seems to be more tolerant of neglect when it doesn't result in murder. In Casey's case, neglect and not wanting to be a mom did result in murder because she got tired of responsibility. I don't think Casey should be put in any situation involving the care of another person ever. I think that situation would fall into neglect quickly, and then Casey wouldn't want that situation anymore, so someone else would end up dying by her hand because she misses her Bella Vita life once again. She's just as dangerous as someone who doesn't care about anyone else but herself as someone out there murdering people left and right to me. She just takes more time to get to a point where someone becomes expendable to her than most serial killers.

As long as Casey thinks she has the right to end someone's life because hers is more important, she is very dangerous and shouldn't be caring for anyone at any time, all IMO.

I'm not certain Casey isn't a homicidal maniac. I really can't say one way or the other because we don't have all the information needed to answer that question.

What we don't know is if Casey derived some pleasure and joy as she was placing the tape across her more than likely terrified child. If she did then yes I would categorize her as a homicidal maniac.

But I can say without a doubt in my mind Casey wouldn't hesitate in the LEAST to murder again, if she choose to do so. She has found that murdering benefits her, there is no threat of deterrence for Casey. Although she is the most hated person in this country Casey's life will be far better than it was (at least in her mind) while Caylee was alive.

Up to this point, before she was on parole, she got to travel all around the country on private jets. Before that Casey had never had the chance to travel anywhere. And will also be given a free pass to never have to work. And at some point when society has allowed Casey to disappear into a distant memory Casey will be able to resume her partying lifestyle again, and resume her Bella Vita. This time though without being saddled with the responsibility of a 2 year old child and her parents pushing her to be responsible.

Either way you slice it Casey is a dangerous woman who society should be protected from. A murderer is a murderer it doesn't matter if your body count is 1 or 1,000. This was not a murder done in self defense. If Casey had it in her to kill an innocent 2 year old child people would be fools to think Casey couldn't very easily kill again. Should the mood so strike Miss Casey.

Make no mistake both Anthony women are ticking time bombs ready to go off at any moment. I think it foolish for anyone to take a chance to leave the life of any of their loved ones in either womans hands.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Am betting as part of the deal with Dr. Phil the A's will have gotten and are on an extended vacation at an exotic and secret location. You know they will need time to 'bond and recover' after rehashing their story to Dr. Phil. In a week or two they will be back in the public eye ginning up funds for their 'foundaiton'.:maddening:

BBM:

:furious: Aha ! I never thought of that "possibility" ... sounds like "something" they would have asked for ...

I hope we do NOT see the Anthony's again ... and I hope the Anthony's so-called "foundation" is an EPIC FAIL !

As always, MOO ...

 

[MarthaM]

with all due respect, a lot of respect, i disagree ...

I understand that Casey was an adult and responsible for her actions but I cannot believe (especially after watching the cringe-worthy jail house tapes) that there weren't any serious red flags that Casey had some "mental" issues a lot earlier. Her parents had to know something was wrong (it took me 15 minutes to figure that out yet they had 20+ years). I have a feeling there is a lot we don't know (probably chalked up to "oh, that's just Casey.") Couple this with the recent Dr. P. interview where Cindy Anthony states something like "well, Caylee was in heaven" downplaying the fact that she was thrown in a swamp... this clearly shows (imo)that Cindy makes excuses for Casey. Maybe if she had not made excuses prior and treated Casey like an adult who should have been responsible for her actions, Caylee would be alive today...

Don't want to offend but not going to lie and say I don't throw some blame at Cindy Anthony...

This is an interesting question/issue for me. I haven't decided how far I'll go on assigning any blame or responsibility to the parents who raise a child who commits a crime or does very inappropriate things (even if they don't rise to the level of a crime), whether they do those things as a child or as an adult. Thinking of some really messed-up (IMO) families I've known, the parents either really didn't see or didn't want to see reality when it came to their children. I'm not sure whether I can blame them for anything, even though part of me wants to. If they don't see something, how can they be blamed for not preventing the results or be responsible for that? It's something I've thought about here and there, when I've seen parents, especially mothers but not exclusively so, whose adult children act in ways that I can easily trace back to how they were raised and the home environment.

 

[wonders]

It pained me to hear George and Cindy say that Casey "had to have had help" in Caylee's departure from here. Bull. It obviously doesn't take much to do in a 2 1/2 year old kid - especially if you duct tape their mouth and very likely drug them. Look at all the pictures we have seen of Casey holding Caylee. Caylee was not a tiny child for her age. As Cindy stated, she was at the upper end of the growth chart. Casey had enough strength and rage to get the job done, bag the child up and move her from the trunk to the swamp.

Also, she decided on Caylee's "resting place" all by herself. No outside help would have agreed to dump Caylee at the end of the street. That was plain stupid. BUT, Casey was in heat and she had plans that she had no intention of altering for her child. She was fixated on getting to Tony's because he was off the next day, and she fully intended to spend the night and next day with him - which he stated they had a "grand old time". I have looked at the phone records, and I agree with other posters here that have stated she was looking for a babysitter. (flurry of phone calls). Mom and Dad were not being cooperative with her.

Casey Anthony did this deed all alone. If there had been "others" as her parents seem to think, Caylee would never have been found.

Great post. And to jump off of your post.
Even if Caylee had been a problem to destroy and finally be thrown in a trashy swamp FCA could still do it by herself. Just recently a group of people saved a motorcyclist from death by lifting the car he was penned under and pulling him out. So how many time have we heard of super human stranght in the face of horrible circumstances? I personally believe raging anger has the same effect.

 

[Solace]

George doesn't believe for a second that KC had help. He is simply saying that because he wants to stay in the house and his saying she had help softens the blow of his saying KC sedated her and buried her.

NOTICE EVERYONE TIP TOES AROUND THE TAPE. Did anyone mention the tape? I never heard anything about the tape. How much help do you need to put chloroform over a 25 - 30 pound toddler and then to move her. KC picked her up and moved her from the bathroom every day when she gave her a bath. So now she can't possibly move her when she has killed her, riggggggggggggggght.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Hey dog.gone.cute..I find it refreshing! Maybe they didn't like the thousands of comments that flooded Dr. P facebook, twitter and message board expressing their outrage at the A's? This is how Dr. P started the third interview.

I was actually surprised that quite a few commenters had a lot of sympathy for the Anthonys. Way more for George than Cindy though.

IMO