Dr. Teresa Sievers - Motives and Theories (Including MS speculation)

[wondering25]

Exactly! All these are NOT NATURAL! What on earth is LE waiting on?!

I dont know much about Forensics or LE but if he's involved, what's else (who else) is LE waiting on....

I just can't help but feel outraged. This case has consumed my whole Summer and the audacity of this crime is mind blowing and infuriating.

JR and CWW were arrested within hours of each other and the arrests were announced by the sheriff with a "teaser" that he might be back later with another arrest. That was ~ a month ago. They are just waiting for this extradition thing to play itself out, imo and then they will make whatever the other arrest or 2 they have to make. JMO

If MS is the mastermind, the police must have him under 24/7 surveillance. i found it interesting when the sheriff said a few weeks back that he had talked with the children for several hours. Why would that need to be done unless there were either supervised visits or they were doing welfare checks or something along those lines. I can think of no reason that doesnt involve MS where the sheriff would need to speak with the children. We have no real idea who is living where, nor has anyone stepped forward to leak the info. Scoop is scoop and no one in the community has said they were living next door, for example.

As i have said in previous posts.. IF LE has the goods on MS and they are playing a time game so the clock doesnt start ticking too soon.. it might be dangerous as we all remember the Josh Powell tragedy. The children are home schooled, so we cant even say MS could be alone and they storm the house when the kids are at school. MOO

Let's hope this strategy of delay (if that is what is going on) doesnt produce another horrible result. MOO

Anything i write is just my opinion

 

[AmandaSkis]

When I look up records for MS, I see four times in 2001 where he was charged with "false alarm." Does anyone know what that means?

https://ccmspa.pinellascounty.org/PublicAccess/default.aspx

 

[AZlawyer]

When I look up records for MS, I see four times in 2001 where he was charged with "false alarm." Does anyone know what that means?

https://ccmspa.pinellascounty.org/PublicAccess/default.aspx

It means an alarm went off at the house and the police ended up having to come out (because of a call from the alarm company) but it was just a mistake--like the homeowner punched in the wrong disarm code and didn't answer the "confirm your password" call from the alarm company. Cities tend to fine people for these situations to discourage them from wasting LE time and resources being careless with their alarms.

 

[Maxine2U]

You know, it seems to me that someone in TS's family, maybe a brother or cousin, would have "smelled a rat" so to speak with MS if they met him when they were dating. And that they could have done some sleuthing and found out some of this stuff. Does anyone know where her family is? It's just sad that she seemed like such a great person but apparently made bad choices with who she surrounded herself with. Even a girl friend. I'm wondering if we don't hear from someone soon who was good friends with her and what they have to say about MS. They are probably working with LE, hopefully, which is why nothing like that has been stated. I hope.

 

[human]

Why are MS and CWW friends? There is no way that MS does not know why kind of person CWW is.

It is obvious that CWW is a non truth teller as well . Who needs that kind of friend especially when they are separated by hundreds of miles

 

[Dmacky]

"incompetent", YES and they don't give up. I read the article on the Naples News link---YIKES, what were they doing in Kentucky?! I'm sure LE's investigating all places known they've been.

Not sure, but it's TOO close to home for me! I certainly hope there are no "connections" here :scared:

However, Skinner said Mark told him nothing had been stolen from the safes.

But that is the only conformation we have. MARK SAID he opened the safes and nothing was missing.... :thinking: No one will EVER know for a fact that there was no money missing. ~ IMO
Just MS's words.

Nothing was missing, and MS is at least 5 or 6 inches taller than CWW...

 

[DexterMorgan]

Well someone posted that doc never mentioned cw to them. So maybe she was just happy that hubby had his own friends who didn't live too close to cause any trouble.

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

You know, it seems to me that someone in TS's family, maybe a brother or cousin, would have "smelled a rat" so to speak with MS if they met him when they were dating. And that they could have done some sleuthing and found out some of this stuff. Does anyone know where her family is? It's just sad that she seemed like such a great person but apparently made bad choices with who she surrounded herself with. Even a girl friend. I'm wondering if we don't hear from someone soon who was good friends with her and what they have to say about MS. They are probably working with LE, hopefully, which is why nothing like that has been stated. I hope.

TS was divorced in 2003 and married MS later in 2003, so it was a very quick courtship. There may not have been time. And even if someone did have misgivings and tried to caution TS... Well, who listens to anything like that when they are newly in love?

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[relay]

Not sure, but it's TOO close to home for me! I certainly hope there are no "connections" here :scared:



But that is the only conformation we have. MARK SAID he opened the safes and nothing was missing.... :thinking: No one will EVER know for a fact that there was no money missing. ~ IMO
Just MS's words.

Nothing was missing, and MS is at least 5 or 6 inches taller than CWW...

Great point, dmacky!

 

[DexterMorgan]

Is there any pics where ms has his wedding ring on after docs death ?

 

[kammiemc]

JR and CWW were arrested within hours of each other and the arrests were announced by the sheriff with a "teaser" that he might be back later with another arrest. That was ~ a month ago. They are just waiting for this extradition thing to play itself out, imo and then they will make whatever the other arrest or 2 they have to make. JMO

If MS is the mastermind, the police must have him under 24/7 surveillance. i found it interesting when the sheriff said a few weeks back that he had talked with the children for several hours. Why would that need to be done unless there were either supervised visits or they were doing welfare checks or something along those lines. I can think of no reason that doesnt involve MS where the sheriff would need to speak with the children. We have no real idea who is living where, nor has anyone stepped forward to leak the info. Scoop is scoop and no one in the community has said they were living next door, for example.

As i have said in previous posts.. IF LE has the goods on MS and they are playing a time game so the clock doesnt start ticking too soon.. it might be dangerous as we all remember the Josh Powell tragedy. The children are home schooled, so we cant even say MS could be alone and they storm the house when the kids are at school. MOO

Let's hope this strategy of delay (if that is what is going on) doesnt produce another horrible result. MOO

Anything i write is just my opinion

I also can't help worry that he might snap. Don't know about the Joshua thing. It seems like they don't have enough hard evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law that he was part of this so maybe legally their hands are tied until then. I don't know exactly what proof is required to take someone's kids away. I guess enough that MS does not yet meet it. Poor kids.


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[beach]

You know, it seems to me that someone in TS's family, maybe a brother or cousin, would have "smelled a rat" so to speak with MS if they met him when they were dating. And that they could have done some sleuthing and found out some of this stuff. Does anyone know where her family is? It's just sad that she seemed like such a great person but apparently made bad choices with who she surrounded herself with. Even a girl friend. I'm wondering if we don't hear from someone soon who was good friends with her and what they have to say about MS. They are probably working with LE, hopefully, which is why nothing like that has been stated. I hope.

Re: BBM

TS's family of origin (parents, siblings, etc..) are all living in the northeast, most of them in Connecticut.

MS and TS had a very brief courtship before marrying in late 2003. I doubt any of them knew much about MS before they married. I tend to believe that even after their marriage they never knew much other than what TS told them. Also, I really get the impression she was probably a very private person.

Heck, I don't believe TS knew much about the MS that we are uncovering here. I would be stunned to find out she knew about the sort of people he chose to maintain friendships with from his childhood days while living in MO. Especially the depth of CWW's troubled, criminal past. I believe Mark knew everything about CWW, but I do not believe he shared that knowledge with his wife.

Just my humble opinion.

 

[beach]

Why are MS and CWW friends? There is no way that MS does not know why kind of person CWW is.

It is obvious that CWW is a non truth teller as well . Who needs that kind of friend especially when they are separated by hundreds of miles

THIS.

It is a simple question.

I want a plausible explanation for it.


With all due respect, please don't give me any flowery reply about loyalty and MS wanting to stand by his troubled friend because he thought he could make a difference. Fair warning because I would call BS. I'm not buying that stuff for a minute.

 

[relay]

THIS.

It is a simple question.

I want a plausible explanation for it.


With all due respect, please don't give me any flowery reply about loyalty and MS wanting to stand by his troubled friend because he thought he could make a difference. Fair warning because I would call BS. I'm not buying that stuff for a minute.

I suspect they have a lot in common, and they may both have criminal minds. IMO regarding MS because we don't have all the facts on him, yet. We know CWW has a criminal mind. Birds of a feather often flock together.

 

[LvsAMystry]

Not sure, but it's TOO close to home for me! I certainly hope there are no "connections" here :scared:



But that is the only conformation we have. MARK SAID he opened the safes and nothing was missing.... :thinking: No one will EVER know for a fact that there was no money missing. ~ IMO
Just MS's words.

Nothing was missing, and MS is at least 5 or 6 inches taller than CWW...

This is very true! While we all have the ability to choose what to make of the information provided by an insider, verified or not, I typically choose to believe within reason and mostly the information turns out accurate down the road. In this instance though, it seems to be a lot of misinformation given and on things that really shouldn't have room for error. One has to wonder what the intent of that could be.

 

[kammiemc]

THIS.

It is a simple question.

I want a plausible explanation for it.


With all due respect, please don't give me any flowery reply about loyalty and MS wanting to stand by his troubled friend because he thought he could make a difference. Fair warning because I would call BS. I'm not buying that stuff for a minute.

And I also don't buy anything about him feeling bullied or tormented into standing by his bigger (or smaller?) blood brother. To me, the simplest, most plausible explanation is that they are more alike than dissimilar. Not just in looks, but in values and upbringing and survival skills--by that, I mean, what they will do to make things work, to make things okay, to cover up what's necessary, and to acquire success.

Thanks to the sleuthy sleuths here, we know it is clear that these guys are incredibly intertwined and always have been. (MS was engaged to CWW's wife's aunt at some point? I am getting that right?)

The percentage of their lives that they spent as besties dwarfs the time that MS has known TS. I think, like old war buddies, these guys were in the trenches together and can understand each other better than anyone else in the world--only, these were the trenches of badness--RB, for starters, and meth, what else?--and they still accepted each other nonetheless. As whacked as it is, that is true friendship. "I'll be there..."

Two low lives grew up together and supported each other. One was able to put on charades to marry someone who could elevate his status in the world and probably wouldn't accept the REAL MS. I suggest that in his life with TS he was living a lie and riding coattails to success, but in his life with CWW, he could let his "hair" down.

 

[KateB]

Yes, for those still catching up:

CWW's mother-in-law:

Wideman, 60, said her family has known Mark Sievers for more than 20 years. "I haven't talked to him since he was engaged to my little sister (Shelly) about 24 years ago."

www.news-press.com/story/news/crime/2015/09/22/wright-mother-law-sievers-link-deep-mo/72633014/

 

[beach]

And I also don't buy anything about him feeling bullied or tormented into standing by his bigger (or smaller?) blood brother. To me, the simplest, most plausible explanation is that they are more alike than dissimilar. Not just in looks, but in values and upbringing and survival skills--by that, I mean, what they will do to make things work, make things okay, to acquire success.

Thanks to the sleuthy sleuths here, we know it is clear that these guys are incredibly intertwined and always have been. (MS was engaged to CWW's wife's aunt at some point? I am getting that right?)

The percentage of their lives that they spent as besties dwarfs the time that MS has known TS. I think, like old war buddies, these guys were in the trenches together and can understand each other better than anyone else in the world--only, these were trenches of badness--RB, for starters, and meth, what else?--and they still accepted each other nonetheless. As whacked as it is, that is true friendship. "I'll be there..."

Two low lives grew up together and supported each other. One was able to put on charades to marry someone who could elevate his status in the world and probably wouldn't accept the REAL MS. I suggest that in his life with TS he was living a lie and riding coattails to success, but in his life with CWW, he could let his "hair" down.

This is what I believe as well.

Re: your first sentence - Mark Sievers is nobody's victim. I'm not buying that for a minute either.

I'll give credit where credit is due though - Mark is smarter and savvier. And I believe he is a master manipulator.

 

[Cricket99]

And I also don't buy anything about him feeling bullied or tormented into standing by his bigger (or smaller?) blood brother. To me, the simplest, most plausible explanation is that they are more alike than dissimilar. Not just in looks, but in values and upbringing and survival skills--by that, I mean, what they will do to make things work, to make things okay, to cover up what's necessary, and to acquire success.

Thanks to the sleuthy sleuths here, we know it is clear that these guys are incredibly intertwined and always have been. (MS was engaged to CWW's wife's aunt at some point? I am getting that right?)

The percentage of their lives that they spent as besties dwarfs the time that MS has known TS. I think, like old war buddies, these guys were in the trenches together and can understand each other better than anyone else in the world--only, these were the trenches of badness--RB, for starters, and meth, what else?--and they still accepted each other nonetheless. As whacked as it is, that is true friendship. "I'll be there..."

Two low lives grew up together and supported each other. One was able to put on charades to marry someone who could elevate his status in the world and probably wouldn't accept the REAL MS. I suggest that in his life with TS he was living a lie and riding coattails to success, but in his life with CWW, he could let his "hair" down.

This has to be true - I have been trying to make sense off associating with such a low life as CWW. You have stated a very plausible explanation. Thank you

 

[wondering25]

THIS.

It is a simple question.

I want a plausible explanation for it.


With all due respect, please don't give me any flowery reply about loyalty and MS wanting to stand by his troubled friend because he thought he could make a difference. Fair warning because I would call BS. I'm not buying that stuff for a minute.

Birds of a feather flock together.. Too many shared memories, complications, and by the looks of the 2 of them, possible shared genes. JMO