Dr. Teresa Sievers - Motives and Theories (Including MS speculation)

[No it's not]

Thank you for your comment. I am glad you mentioned Dr Siever's BD coming up, as I had it down for next month.

-Nin

DOB November 19th, 1968, according to the obituary/ Legacy wall

-Nin

 

[Duntulum]

DOB November 19th, 1968, according to the obituary/ Legacy wall

-Nin

You are absolutely correct. Considering I spent part of this weekend coordinating something for that date, you'd think I'd get the right month. Thanks for correcting my faux pas!!

Also, someone here asked if the $10,000 came via one of Teresa's siblings -- yes it did.

Fingers crossed for an extradition already -- we are all a bit nervous up here about what documents are going to be released. We don't know what is contained in some of them either --

STILL WAITING in Connecticut --

 

[No it's not]

You are absolutely correct. Considering I spent part of this weekend coordinating something for that date, you'd think I'd get the right month. Thanks for correcting my faux pas!!

Also, someone here asked if the $10,000 came via one of Teresa's siblings -- yes it did.

Fingers crossed for an extradition already -- we are all a bit nervous up here about what documents are going to be released. We don't know what is contained in some of them either --

STILL WAITING in Connecticut --

Glad you are here, thank you!

-Nin

 

[kammiemc]

In asking Skinner some questions on the other thread it struck me as to how tight CWW and MS must be. Skinner said it is unfathomable that they are on the outs. I already thought it was unlikely that CWW would have had TS killed behind MS's back to hurt him or for any other own personal motivation. IMO I think this was a bff helping out the person who has always been there for him.


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[travelbug]

In asking Skinner some questions on the other thread it struck me as to how tight CWW and MS must be. Skinner said it is unfathomable that they are on the outs. I already thought it was unlikely that CWW would have had TS killed behind MS's back to hurt him or for any other own personal motivation. IMO I think this was a bff helping out the person who has always been there for him.

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I don't disagree with your assessment however, after reading more news interviews with people familiar with CWW, I'm getting the impression that he might be a sociopath or psychopath. He seems like a Jekyll and Hyde personality type. People who meet him like and respect him. But, then go on to say he may have been stealing money from their business or may have committed murder (using a wood chipper, no less). If there is any truth in those statements then we may be looking at someone driven by motives that don't make sense to the rational mind. Perhaps he loses control when using meth, but I'm more inclined to believe he is a narcissist willing to take whatever steps are necessary to protect this own self interests. Something tells me we will find a trail of unsolved crimes in his past. jmoo

 

[MsArk]

Narcissist willing to go to any length to protect his own self interests + meth = willingness to murder your life long friend's wife. We will just have to see where MS falls into this spectrum but I think it is WAY more likely than not he also is a narcissist (maybe sociopath - don't know exact definition) who is also willing to go to any length to protect and promote his self interests. AmazonRain indicated there was never any suspicion of drug use on MS's part but really, if he is the driving force behind this hideous murder that makes him a monster of sorts. JMO

It is tragic TS was manipulated by theses cons to the point of her own demise. They must have been very convincing.

 

[Mountain Flower]

This is my first post even though I've been lurking and following this case from early on... I am curious whether any insiders happen to know whether MS mentioned/was aware of the mysterious deaths of other natural health practitioners in recent months? Did he mention those, as though he or others might hope it would appear that the death of TS was related?

 

[bvstrish]

This is my first post even though I've been lurking and following this case from early on... I am curious whether any insiders happen to know whether MS mentioned/was aware of the mysterious deaths of other natural health practitioners in recent months? Did he mention those, as though he or others might hope it would appear that the death of TS was related?

I believe the blogger who started the holistic doctor conspiracy theory first wrote about it after TS was found murdered.

 

[Mountain Flower]

Thank you. I didn't realize that.

 

[Bobbywoo]

This is my first post even though I've been lurking and following this case from early on... I am curious whether any insiders happen to know whether MS mentioned/was aware of the mysterious deaths of other natural health practitioners in recent months? Did he mention those, as though he or others might hope it would appear that the death of TS was related?

Hello! Welcome! As far as we know MS hasn't mentioned jack shiz to anyone about the reason behind the murder at all. And to add to that, no insider that I recall on MS's side (Skinner) has mentioned a motive. Sheriff Mike Scott mentioned that he DIDN'T believe it was connected to the holistic doc conspiracy theory. That's all we got. There has been NO confirmation of motive as of yet. We are hoping that the FL document dump reveals a motive but it may be redacted documents.

 

[concernedmother]

Hoping we have a few aha moments when we get the doc dump. I also expect an arrest soon when they get CWW in FL. jmo

 

[SweetT]

Still waiting for the other shoe to drop.

 

[observation]

CWW would "likely" not kill and recruit JR from MO to FL over Medicare related issues. Then, why?


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[wondering25]

CWW would "likely" not kill and recruit JR from MO to FL over Medicare related issues. Then, why?


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Because imo, this was a "chain". Ms recruited CWW and CWW recruited JR. TS was killed the evening she returned from CT. This was planned so MS was out of town and TS was alone and the children were not in the home. It is the only logical explanation. Reason to murder her???? MS wanted out of the marriage. MOO

Anything i write is just my opinion.

 

[concernedmother]

Because imo, this was a "chain". Ms recruited CWW and CWW recruited JR. TS was killed the evening she returned from CT. This was planned so MS was out of town and TS was alone and the children were not in the home. It is the only logical explanation. Reason to murder her???? MS wanted out of the marriage. MOO

Anything i write is just my opinion.

Or TS wanted out and he wasnt going to lose everything and lose the kids. jmo

 

[relay]

Or TS wanted out and he wasnt going to lose everything and lose the kids. jmo

I'm torn between MS simply wanting Dr. Teresa out of his life while he can keep their children and do with as he would like with her practice (So far that's not working for him) or that Dr. Teresa found out something about MS and/or CWW and decided to permanently silence her. Maybe there is/was an affair or perhaps MS wanted to again live the single life, so maybe that was a factor. To me, everything so far points towards MS as the one behind the murder, including his behavior and actions or inaction after Dr. Teresa's murder. I think JR was recruited, did it for the money and because he has a criminal mind would have no problem doing it for money. Moo.

 

[DeDee]

Narcissist willing to go to any length to protect his own self interests + meth = willingness to murder your life long friend's wife. We will just have to see where MS falls into this spectrum but I think it is WAY more likely than not he also is a narcissist (maybe sociopath - don't know exact definition) who is also willing to go to any length to protect and promote his self interests. AmazonRain indicated there was never any suspicion of drug use on MS's part but really, if he is the driving force behind this hideous murder that makes him a monster of sorts. JMO

It is tragic TS was manipulated by theses cons to the point of her own demise. They must have been very convincing.

It is tragic TS was manipulated by theses cons to the point of her own demise.

It is tragic and inconceivable to "normal" folks. Perhaps she was so busy with her children and profession that she didn't have the time to put 2 + 2 together. Make no mistake. Her killers are very dangerous people who may have fooled those around them for many, many years.

They must have been very convincing.

True, MrsArk, and so was Ted Bundy and many other killers who were excellent con artists. Over time, their ability to manipulate becomes perfected by mimicking charming behavior of others that they do not truly possess.

Psychopaths are unable to form emotional attachments or feel real empathy with others, although they often have disarming or even charming personalities. Psychopaths are very manipulative and can easily gain people’s trust. They learn to mimic emotions, despite their inability to actually feel them, and will appear normal to unsuspecting people. Psychopaths are often well educated and hold steady jobs. Some are so good at manipulation and mimicry that they have families and other long-term relationships without those around them ever suspecting their true nature.

When committing crimes, psychopaths carefully plan out every detail in advance and often have contingency plans in place. Unlike their sociopathic counterparts, psychopathic criminals are cool, calm, and meticulous. Their crimes, whether violent or non-violent, will be highly organized and generally offer few clues for authorities to pursue. Intelligent psychopaths make excellent white-collar criminals and "con artists" due to their calm and charismatic natures.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wicked-deeds/201401/how-tell-sociopath-psychopath

Sociopaths have no capacity for guilt. Many take pleasure in inflicting pain. Sociopaths are the most Ruthless People among us.

A narcissistic sociopath is someone with a combination of narcissistic personality disorder and definitive behavioral signs of sociopathy. People with narcissism are characterized by their excessive and persistent need for others' admiration and positive reinforcement. They generally have grandiose opinions of themselves and believe they are superior to other people. Narcissists are also frequently convinced that they are above the normal responsibilities and obligations of everyday life, so they usually have significant difficulties maintaining employment or relationships as a result. The narcissistic sociopath has this type of personality along with a noticeable lack of regard for the rights of others and a tendency to regularly violate those rights.

One noted difference between a narcissistic sociopath and people with narcissism alone is that the narcissist with the sociopathy reacts strongly and sometimes even violently to negative feedback. True sociopaths generally do not respond to criticism or care what others may think of them. A narcissistic sociopath is unable to tolerate criticism and needs constant praise, as well as deference from other people. Many with this condition present themselves in the best light possible and are able to easily charm others to gain their trust.

http://www.wisegeekhealth.com/what-is-a-narcissistic-sociopath.htm#didyouknowout

JMHO, Dr. Teresa Sievers suffered from emotional neglect and other painful, confusing side effects caused by living with a partner with PD.

 

[Nana46]

I don't know which thread to ask this in as I am not quite up to speed on this case yet.....what is the suspicion about the dogs being locked up in a room? I don't get it. Thanks to anyone that can answer.

 

[bvstrish]

I don't know which thread to ask this in as I am not quite up to speed on this case yet.....what is the suspicion about the dogs being locked up in a room? I don't get it. Thanks to anyone that can answer.

This is just my theory, when CWW was taken into custody about 2 weeks after TS's homicide, he may have had a healing dog bite and LE tied the dog bite to the TS's home.

 

[Webjunkie]

I'm torn between MS simply wanting Dr. Teresa out of his life while he can keep their children and do with as he would like with her practice (So far that's not working for him) or that Dr. Teresa found out something about MS and/or CWW and decided to permanently silence her. Maybe there is/was an affair or perhaps MS wanted to again live the single life, so maybe that was a factor. To me, everything so far points towards MS as the one behind the murder, including his behavior and actions or inaction after Dr. Teresa's murder. I think JR was recruited, did it for the money and because he has a criminal mind would have no problem doing it for money. Moo.

Just curious (since JR's FB page is gone), was he posting hitman stuff before all this happened? Why the heck would anyone trust him NOT to talk? They had to know his personality. Doesn't make sense to hire a "squeaky hammer", especially if they were so careful to cover their tracks. I don't get that part of a "for hire" theory.