Dreams/Visions? - #1

[CorallaroC]

Tamgmit - great posts, thank you.

Glad you pointed out how you keep the dream images, words, impressions in the back of your mind while you are researching. We've been doing a slightly different type of Brainstorming on this thread which I think is very cool.

Thanks to each of you.

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[CorallaroC]

My all-time favorite example of using dreams for problem-solving is the case of the German chemist Friedrich August Kekulé, who claimed to have discovered the shape of the benzene molecule (its ring formula) after seeing the image of a snake seizing its own tail while he was dreaming.

Here is the Wiki link for Benzene
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzene
look under the heading "Ring Formula"

The human mind is so wildly sophisticated! So when we allow ourselves to tap into some of its "extra" abilities, amazing things can and do happen.

 

[concentric]

My all-time favorite example of using dreams for problem-solving is the case of the German chemist Friedrich August Kekulé, who claimed to have discovered the shape of the benzene molecule (its ring formula) after seeing the image of a snake seizing its own tail while he was dreaming.

Here is the Wiki link for Benzene
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzene
look under the heading "Ring Formula"

The human mind is so wildly sophisticated! So when we allow ourselves to tap into some of its "extra" abilities, amazing things can and do happen.

You are so supportive in us trying to use abilities that are scary and controversial. Thank you, humbly. I do believe that the Lord Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth and the Light. (must always acknowledge this) Here's praying that Lindsey and others are found alive!

 

[TamgMit]

I wondered if LB had some jewlery that she loved. Maybe something someone gave her that she was close to like a parent or grandparent. Maybe a cross.

 

[razzberry]

Years ago I had a very profound psychic experience that involved my little brother( I won't go into details) ,close to 3 months after that vision he was killed by a drunk driver. I had had several silly psychic experiences prior to the one with my brother,but after his death I rejected any further because I felt I could not handle them.

Anyhow I have been following Lindsey's story and asked God for insight to what has happened to her. Last night I had the following dream.

In my dream I was at a riverbank with a friend, we had been there 100's of times swimming I decided to jump in for a swim. As soon as I did the the currant was very strong and swift and it pulled me quickly away from the riverbank and away from my friend. I was desperatly trying to swim back to the edge but the water was so strong I could'nt even bring my arms up and I was being swept into an area I knew was too dangerous. My friend was standing on the riverbank reaching out to me but knew if she jumped in she would be swept away also my last thought was, I am dying, and I woke from the dream.

Today I have analized my dream over and over and here is my theory:

The first important message is that maybe she was not alone
second the river may have been symbolic of a person she was very familiar with in my dream I had been there 100's of times
third she may have realised right away she had made a mistake as she was instantly overpowered.

I have also wondered if the river may have something to do with a person involveds name like Rivers, Banks, Lake??

Of course there is also the possibility it could have beed literal, are there any swift moving rivers maybe tide rivers she may have been swept away?

 

[concentric]

razzberry - I can relate. Here is how. My older sister was killed in a car accident. Months before that, I kept having a dream or vision of a woman with curly hair whose face was bleeding from an impact to the head. She was near a car, but was falling to the ground. I thought it was a vision of someone else I was researching who died under similar circumstances. Then my sister died. Now I realize it probably was her.

It is very painful to realize that you may have forseen your own family member.

 

[kageykaren]

I keep getting a message in my heart and mind saying, "Never give up seeking" Maybe this is to keep the search going, maybe to keep seeking answers, maybe to keep seeking truths, or all three. I became so saddend with all the critism going on in real time about everything concerning Lindsey that it made me stop reading everything about what is good what isn't good about the case. Being still inside has made me realize that at this point Lindsey is in charge and all she wants is to be brought home. Hince the "Keep seeking" but isn't this what all our lost children are saying as well. This thought in message has led me to anl alterio way to hunt for Lindsey that doesn't require money or a community bldg. and it is free. A donation to recognize the good that this group does. I'm just not sure if I should post the group at this time. Heavy hearts are trying at the location Lindsey went missing to figure out how this happened, where to search, and it feels like she is slipping away. How are all of you feeling currently concerning Lindsey?

 

[CorallaroC]

Concentric and Razzberry,

I am sorry for your loss. HUGS

And for all here who are contributing toward finding Lindsey by sharing their personal experiences and insights - and dreams. It shows a tremendous amount of love, compassion and goodwill.... and courage.

God bless

 

[razzberry]

CorallaroC,
Thank you for the hugs!
Concentric,
Sorry about your sister:

 

[kageykaren]

Concentric and Razzberry,

I am sorry for your loss. HUGS

And for all here who are contributing toward finding Lindsey by sharing their personal experiences and insights - and dreams. It shows a tremendous amount of love, compassion and goodwill.... and courage.

God bless

Thank you for this post and your understanding of people being able to express their feelings. Emotions whether good, glad sad or mad can be a motivator for change in a positive direction. Always sweet peeps on this thread posting! ~<3~

 

[concentric]

Concentric and Razzberry,

I am sorry for your loss. HUGS

And for all here who are contributing toward finding Lindsey by sharing their personal experiences and insights - and dreams. It shows a tremendous amount of love, compassion and goodwill.... and courage.

God bless

Hi and thanks! My sister who died in the car accident, her name is Lindsay. Anyways, she had a beautiful long-haired dachsund puppy who she loved dearly.

When I went to the funeral, I entered my sister's house and just collapsed on the floor from grief. This little puppy came over and started licking my face, and showed me, once again, how much compassion and love animals can have for their caretakers.

 

[CorallaroC]

Hi and thanks! My sister who died in the car accident, her name is Lindsay. Anyways, she had a beautiful long-haired dachsund puppy who she loved dearly.

When I went to the funeral, I entered my sister's house and just collapsed on the floor from grief. This little puppy came over and started licking my face, and showed me, once again, how much compassion and love animals can have for their caretakers.

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Thank you for sharing this, it's very touching. It's a good feeling to know your sister Lindsey also had the additional joy a puppy brings to one's life. Very heartwarming the way the puppy comforted you too when you really needed it.

At least one of the news articles mentioned Lindsey Baum's dog, Kadence. A german shepard that Lindsey had raised since he was a puppy. She wrote on her myspace the name Kadence came from a book. I'm so glad she had him in her life, too.

 

[TamgMit]

I keep getting a message in my heart and mind saying, "Never give up seeking" Maybe this is to keep the search going, maybe to keep seeking answers, maybe to keep seeking truths, or all three. I became so saddend with all the critism going on in real time about everything concerning Lindsey that it made me stop reading everything about what is good what isn't good about the case. Being still inside has made me realize that at this point Lindsey is in charge and all she wants is to be brought home. Hince the "Keep seeking" but isn't this what all our lost children are saying as well. This thought in message has led me to anl alterio way to hunt for Lindsey that doesn't require money or a community bldg. and it is free. A donation to recognize the good that this group does. I'm just not sure if I should post the group at this time. Heavy hearts are trying at the location Lindsey went missing to figure out how this happened, where to search, and it feels like she is slipping away. How are all of you feeling currently concerning Lindsey?

I have been feeling a very lost feeling, sadness and hopelessness this past week and think it is because seems like Lindsey is becoming a cold case. I feel that without anything new being reported on Lindsey then she soon will be. I have tried to keep her in my Heart with Gods help but have been feeling that some don't want us to know much information or take that avenue. Feel like anything that is brought forward is shot down. I have read several other sites on websleuths and thinking to myself I am suprise they are able to give suggestions on things concerning other people and theories more freely. Just find it rather weird that we don't hear much on lindsey it seems hush hush. I wonder why the Newspapers, Newscasts, and other are not saying much. Is there something more behind the scenes that is going on maybe someone of importance to town or community. I am hoping those close to MB reading this forum will encourage her to seek the help of TIM Miller with equasearch. I think Laura Recovery and Klaas foundation are doing a great job but think there needs to be more especially with the searches cause each week that goes by it just gets colder and more distant. Then I wonder to myself is that what is wanted so things would get back to the way they where. I find the lack of no news, and what can be said an not said very frustrating and very sad. We are here to help find a missing person and bring that person back so that a family can have closeure of one type or another. I feel sad for the many families of the missing that have loved ones out there, who are hoping for just one little bit of news somthing positive to hold on to give them hope. I imagine the emotions of the day to day they are going. I know how I am feeling just think 10 times that feeling for a Mother, father brother and sister. Some even contributing their time and energy that through helping other missing people may gain some hope that maybe some day there might be a little information on their child. I have had to take a little time to step back because I felt I was getting to emotionally involved. But then got to thinking.. can you imagine what these families are feeling. Can you honestly imagine. Can you imagine what this child is going through. The hope they are feeling that they will be found. That what ever has happen to them or whomever has taken them will come to justice for what they have done. Seems when your not able to discuss things and get fresh ideas things just seem to cool off and that is what I feel on Lindsey. Things are cooling and becoming cold. I do not want Lindsey to be placed on back burner she deserves much more. I guess my hopes are to be able to discuss things much more freely and be able to take other avenues to find out more information. IMO

 

[TamgMit]

Razzberry and Concentrated

My deepest sympathy to the both of you for your loss.. . I can only imagine how you both must of felt. big hugs. God Bless the both of you.

 

[TamgMit]

Years ago I had a very profound psychic experience that involved my little brother( I won't go into details) ,close to 3 months after that vision he was killed by a drunk driver. I had had several silly psychic experiences prior to the one with my brother,but after his death I rejected any further because I felt I could not handle them.

Anyhow I have been following Lindsey's story and asked God for insight to what has happened to her. Last night I had the following dream.

In my dream I was at a riverbank with a friend, we had been there 100's of times swimming I decided to jump in for a swim. As soon as I did the the currant was very strong and swift and it pulled me quickly away from the riverbank and away from my friend. I was desperatly trying to swim back to the edge but the water was so strong I could'nt even bring my arms up and I was being swept into an area I knew was too dangerous. My friend was standing on the riverbank reaching out to me but knew if she jumped in she would be swept away also my last thought was, I am dying, and I woke from the dream.

Today I have analized my dream over and over and here is my theory:

The first important message is that maybe she was not alone
second the river may have been symbolic of a person she was very familiar with in my dream I had been there 100's of times
third she may have realised right away she had made a mistake as she was instantly overpowered.

I have also wondered if the river may have something to do with a person involveds name like Rivers, Banks, Lake??

Of course there is also the possibility it could have beed literal, are there any swift moving rivers maybe tide rivers she may have been swept away?

Thank you for sharing your dream Razz. It definitely got me to thinking. Your dream kind of makes me think of someone that trusted a friend. Maybe at the time not realizing how dangerous the situation was. Could Lindsey have trusted in a friend or friends and maybe got involved with a some activity such computer maybe with someone the friend or friends knew. Or maybe a group of friends that in the past friendship broke apart and yet recently came back to being friends. Maybe neither of them being aware of the what ifs and buts and being so trusting of their friendship. Could the dream be representative in two ways, Symbolic as well as representative of the area. Such as the water. Seems many of us have dreamed of water in one form or another. Could that be a place of resting or near.

 

[coastal]

I did not read or post on this thread for several days. The fact that we both came up with the word: Lantern

has me in awe.

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That was my own experience with the silo apartment. There were NO windows and only access was like a trap door above--really creepy!!! Even back then my hinkey meter went skyrocketing, but I rationalized it by thinking OK, a guy probably could live in there and I'm totally paranoid. If I saw something like that now, it would be automatic reporting.
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In Lindsey's case I get barn and either underground or loft confinement, plus padlock.

Maybe my imagination is running overtime. But who knows.

I'm sure I am not imagining that I just read a post elsewhere, which said KK's son fell out of a loft shortly (2 weeks) after Lindsey disappeared, cutting his arm badly enough to require several not-very-nice-looking stitches, pictures of which were posted on his (I'm pretty sure it said "his") myspace page.

Now, I knew about this incident, so we must have said something about it here somewhere, but the loft part didn't 'ding' for me then in quite the same way it 'ding-ding-dings' for me now...KWIM?

However, it is 3:44 in the morning, and I should be dreaming instead of reading about your dreams...so probably you should just ignore me anyway.

 

[TamgMit]

I'm sure I am not imagining that I just read a post elsewhere, which said KK's son fell out of a loft shortly (2 weeks) after Lindsey disappeared, cutting his arm badly enough to require several not-very-nice-looking stitches, pictures of which were posted on his (I'm pretty sure it said "his") myspace page.

Now, I knew about this incident, so we must have said something about it here somewhere, but the loft part didn't 'ding' for me then in quite the same way it 'ding-ding-dings' for me now...KWIM?

However, it is 3:44 in the morning, and I should be dreaming instead of reading about your dreams...so probably you should just ignore me anyway.

I believe it was posted on his myspace on July 5 or 6 and mentioned that he had fallen out of the loft. There use to be some post on this when it first happen but was taken off. Not sure what the follow up was on it. But from my understanding that weekend he was supposidly at his grandparents camp.

 

[TamgMit]

I believe the reason it was taken off cause he was under age. They have to be careful not to post anything that has anyone that is under a certain age. Least that is my understanding of it.

 

[TamgMit]

I also found it odd at the time that few weeks later there was a few sitings of possible lindsey. One which was in Hoodsport, where the girl was supposidly looking to find a job. The second one was I believe was fort lewis when it was reported that a two men and older one and younger one where dragging a young girl into the woods and she fighting them.

 

[TamgMit]

another thing that was also brought to attention to this board was on that same myspace page the use of the stick figure. Eventually it was changed back to the picture of that arm. To me almost like he wanted everyone know.. but that is my opion.