Dylan Redwine Case Discussion Thread/Dylan's Remains Found, #2

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This is my first post on this topic, although I think of this heartbreaking loss of DR's life every day and can't imagine what his family is going through. I want to wrap his hurting family in love and peace.

ER and MR both have emotions running very high and react differently ... it seems that MR says these things on purpose, like how only 2% of DR's remains were found and the rest of him is strewn across the mountainside (that would be like a stab in ER's heart IMO). And then I think MR said that he feels peaceful knowing that DR is up there on the mountain. But it's not supposed to just be about MR's feelings, it's supposed to be about helping each other through this and preventing the killer from attacking anyone else.

I see MR as coming across as self-centred and defensive. His apparent inability to express feelings like sadness and joy doesn't mean that he doesn't have these feelings. This is not uncommon. Everything gets pent up and comes out as rage (in my past experience living with such a person). I have to keep telling myself that this doesn't automatically make him a murderer.

I've noticed that in recent interviews, since DR's remains have been found, MR has been talking about DR in the present tense. Yet in early interviews and on the DP show, MR referred to DR in the past tense. Many people commented on it. This leads me to speculate that MR reads the comments on Youtube after the videos and likely reads this WS forum and also the FB pages. MR's latest interview that I listened to almost sounded scripted and he sounded like he was trying to sound sad. This makes me think that MR cares about his public image.

Another observation ... who's to say that DR's final text messages were sent by DR and not by someone else? I've actually been astonished that none of the sleuthers on here have already picked up on this. It's the main reason I'm posting. It would open up a new time frame.

Is there a link proving in fact there were actually more texts after 8 on another device? Who were they to and what did they say?

I'm not willing to take Mark's word on anything without proof.

I apologize in advance if I missed this information.
 
This is my first post on this topic, although I think of this heartbreaking loss of DR's life every day and can't imagine what his family is going through. I want to wrap his hurting family in love and peace.

ER and MR both have emotions running very high and react differently ... it seems that MR says these things on purpose, like how only 2% of DR's remains were found and the rest of him is strewn across the mountainside (that would be like a stab in ER's heart IMO). And then I think MR said that he feels peaceful knowing that DR is up there on the mountain. But it's not supposed to just be about MR's feelings, it's supposed to be about helping each other through this and preventing the killer from attacking anyone else.

I see MR as coming across as self-centred and defensive. His apparent inability to express feelings like sadness and joy doesn't mean that he doesn't have these feelings. This is not uncommon. Everything gets pent up and comes out as rage (in my past experience living with such a person). I have to keep telling myself that this doesn't automatically make him a murderer.

I've noticed that in recent interviews, since DR's remains have been found, MR has been talking about DR in the present tense. Yet in early interviews and on the DP show, MR referred to DR in the past tense. Many people commented on it. This leads me to speculate that MR reads the comments on Youtube after the videos and likely reads this WS forum and also the FB pages. MR's latest interview that I listened to almost sounded scripted and he sounded like he was trying to sound sad. This makes me think that MR cares about his public image.

Another observation ... who's to say that DR's final text messages were sent by DR and not by someone else? I've actually been astonished that none of the sleuthers on here have already picked up on this. It's the main reason I'm posting. It would open up a new time frame.
BBM: No offense intended. Everyone picked up on it months ago (we have 50 odd threads). You just missed it. :)
 
Self centered, narcissistic, incapable of exhibiting appropriate emotional responses, learning to mimic them, overly concerned how others view him. To name just a few. All IMO

Being self centered means someone is psychotic?

What makes you feel that Mark is narcissistic?

Do we know that Mark is incapable of exhibiting appropriate emotional responses and learned to mimic them?

What makes you say that Mark is overly concerned how others view him?
 
I think you're right.

I just don't think Id care much about anything at that point. Perhaps it's a defense mechanism that kicks in?

I don't know what you would call it Linda7NJ. I don't even want to entertain the idea. My heart breaks for Elaine.

I just hope that the person responsible for what happened to Dylan will be prosecuted. IMO Dylan deserves that.
 
Just a guess, but I think FBI profiling played a some kind of part; perhaps with previous background? Maybe as Teresa mentioned about what you can see from the front door or at walking that distance? It is interesting that Mark was steering away from that area. Something led LE to keep on that area & not going back to the lake.

The initial statements from Mark were for the most part focused on the lake (meeting up with a friend to go fishing). When LE moved away from the lake and started seriously looking at the mountain, is about the time Mark decided Dylan was not even in LaPlata county but was in another state or country.
 
[/B]BBM: No offense intended. Everyone picked up on it months ago (we have 50 odd threads). You just missed it. :)

Thanks Ghostwheel and no offense taken. I'll just put my foot in my mouth then. :blushing:

I tend to read the most recent posts and news articles.

Wouldn't it be great if there were a way to organize all the info!!!
 
Thanks. I'll look for it at her Blogtalk site.

I listened Tricia's BTR show the night of the day of the announcement that Dylans remains had been found. I don't remember Mark being on, though his friend, Teresa, was along with Raine and Michael. Maybe he did give an interview somewhere else.

Also, most of us know the date of the announcement, not when he was found. Compared to ID'ing bones in other cases, this ID seemed remarkably fast. I believe the BTR show and announcement was June 27, even though link says June 28.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/websleuths/2013/06/28/george-zimmerman-trial-daily-update
 
Thanks Ghostwheel and no offense taken. I'll just put my foot in my mouth then. :blushing:

I tend to read the most recent posts and news articles.

Wouldn't it be great if there were a way to organize all the info!!!
I was thinking the same thing, but this case has a life of it's own, I think. There are some spin off threads if you want to look around. (Forensics, search warrants, Media maps and timelines)

And:wagon:
 
Is there a link proving in fact there were actually more texts after 8 on another device? Who were they to and what did they say?

I'm not willing to take Mark's word on anything without proof.

I apologize in advance if I missed this information.

No need to apologize, there's soooo much info out there.

I'm a Newbie here and didn't know that everyone here already picked up on the fact that anyone can send a text from someone else's electronic device.
I'm not sure whether the last text was from the phone or iPod.

Going from this MSM link, DR's last text was sent at 9:37 PM on Nov. 18. He was last seen at Durango Walmart at 7:22 PM.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingn...-details-dylan-redwines-last-known-activities
 
This has me wondering...

http://www.9news.com/news/article/343443/339/Investigators-look-for-clues-in-Redwine-case

Investigators were back out on Middle Mountain Wednesday afternoon, searching for additional clues that could lead them to Dylan Redwine's killer.
Some of the 13-year-old's remains were discovered on a desolate side of Middle Mountain last week. Along with Redwine's remains, detectives also found the boy's shirt and one of his shoes.

BBM and<snipped by me for space>

I've been searching the googles and haven't found any other MSM sources for these items. Is this bad reporting, or do we have new evidence? TIA
 
I listened Tricia's BTR show the night of the day of the announcement that Dylans remains had been found. I don't remember Mark being on, though his friend, Teresa, was along with Raine and Michael. Maybe he did give an interview somewhere else.

Also, most of us know the date of the announcement, not when he was found. Compared to ID'ing bones in other cases, this ID seemed remarkably fast. I believe the BTR show and announcement was June 27, even though link says June 28.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/websleuths/2013/06/28/george-zimmerman-trial-daily-update
Thanks for the link. So Linda7NJ was wrong and Mark did not do an interview with Tricia after Dylan was found. Is there another interview that Mark did?
 
Thanks for the link. So Linda7NJ was wrong and Mark did not do an interview with Tricia after Dylan was found. Is there another interview that Mark did?

Hope it works! It was an interesting show. I will look for a link. I think he did one on the same day CR spoke to the press, but not sure if was Friday.
 
I was thinking the same thing, but this case has a life of it's own, I think. There are some spin off threads if you want to look around. (Forensics, search warrants, Media maps and timelines)

And:wagon:

Thanks Ghostwheel, love the welcome wagon. That's a good way of putting it.
I wish I had all day to read up on all these things.

Just feeling outraged that Dylan's life was cut short.:anguish:
I guess everyone else here is feeling the same way.
 
Thanks for the link. So Linda7NJ was wrong and Mark did not do an interview with Tricia after Dylan was found. Is there another interview that Mark did?
Here is one. It was a phone interview:

On the remains found (which the family was asked not to talk about per Kevin Torres Posts)
"They found, I think, they said two femurs, a shoulder blade , bone or something to do with his shoulder."

On how he felt now that it was considered a homicide:
"If they feel like I had any involvement with it, then why am I standing on my front porch having this conversation with you?" Redwine said.

Read more: http://www.koat.com/news/new-mexico...20741554/-/e4vup9z/-/index.html#ixzz2Y38fMxmQ

There are more buried in these threads and on the internet that he did in person. I'm sure you can locate them with a little searching.
 
My mistake. You said "psychopathic behavior" and not psychotic. I don't agree or disagree with your opinion because you haven't explained how you came to it. I'm not going to hunt down all off your posts in an attempt to figure out what you mean.

Ranch, I would love to hear your opinion on the current events, because all I read from you is questions...which is fine of course, but what is your take?
 
Please forgive me if this has already been discussed ...

Does anyone else find it strange that NONE of Dylan's things were found at MR's house?

Was DR ever really in the house?

Or did DR get to the house and there was there a huge fight between MR and DR and then DR decided to pack up and leave and not go back? Would he have done this in secret? Or would he have told MR and then MR went after him?

Is it even possible that DR told MR that he was going to stay with his friend or his GM?

If that's the case, how was he getting there and why is all his stuff missing?

The poor kid, he was vulnerable way out there in the country. He was too young to drive and IMO he would have felt trapped if there was a fight and no one there to help him, not his brother or his mother or stepfather or his friends.

DR walked into a highly charged situation that he wasn't used to anymore and wouldn't have the coping mechanisms to deal with it IMO.
 
Attached are two screen shots. One shows exactly ten poogle road miles from dads house. The other shows a zoom. Is that Mark's truck? Did a mapping drone help LE target area by mistake? Is this possible?

Amended: this 10 mile spot is NORTH of South bear creek. Maybe Berri creek? It flows to direct to Vallecito creek. Vallecito creek flows down CR 500, in front of Marks house and outlets into the reservoir. Screenshot Screen Shot 2013-07-03 at 4.34.54 PM.jpg

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This has me wondering...

http://www.9news.com/news/article/343443/339/Investigators-look-for-clues-in-Redwine-case

Investigators were back out on Middle Mountain Wednesday afternoon, searching for additional clues that could lead them to Dylan Redwine's killer.
Some of the 13-year-old's remains were discovered on a desolate side of Middle Mountain last week. Along with Redwine's remains, detectives also found the boy's shirt and one of his shoes.

BBM and<snipped by me for space>

I've been searching the googles and haven't found any other MSM sources for these items. Is this bad reporting, or do we have new evidence? TIA

Many of us feel this was bad writing. No one else is reporting new evidence found.
 
Hello everyone. I've been staying quiet and lurking on Dylan's forums for a couple of weeks, but I felt compelled to join in tonight and want to say that I agree with you Dee10.



IMO, all of MR's strange behavior and comments made to the media seem to be somewhat incriminating, but what really stands out to me is the fact that MR is not demanding justice for Dylan. If he has had nothing to do with Dylan's disappearance and death, then why doesn't he seem interested in finding the person who did? I just can't wrap my head around this!

All of this, of course, is MOO. :moo:

I agree. I mean, for gosh sakes, even OJ made the pretense of "I'm going to pay a private investigator to find the murderer of Nicole."
 
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