CO - Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 Nov 2012 - #4

[cfreyja23]

Bender said Mark Redwine allowed investigators to look through his house on County Road 500 on other occasions.

“But the meticulous nature of the search today required a search warrant,” Bender said.

http://durangoherald.com/article/20...nvestigators-search-house-of-Dylan-s-father--

In an interview with The Durango Herald on Saturday, a few of Dylan’s friends said he had agreed to meet them in the early morning Nov. 19, but the meeting never took place.

I'm not trying to make inferences of guilt here, but if the police required a search warrant, then the father did not give permission for them to search. A warrant is not needed unless the property owner refuses a search. Also, if LE were able to obtain a warrant, then they had sufficient probable cause to get the warrant signed. I'm curious to know what that probable cause was.

 

[OneLove]

I think he had that apointment and had to keep it!
JMO

Yeah, and I can't help but wonder what that appointment was about specifically. Might go to state of mind. But I'll hold my thoughts 'til the good Nurse gets back to us on specific guidelines.

 

[cindysue]

Originally Posted by DylansMom34
If something happened on Sunday night, it would be at least conceivable that it really doesn't matter much about the Monday errands

I think the only Monday errand that is worrisome is the early morning trip to his lawyer

 

[GateKeeper]

I know this has probably already been asked and answered but there are sooo many pages to read so could someone help me out?

It says that there hasn't been any activity on Dylan's facebook, phone and text since the day he went missing but it also says his phone has not been used since 8pm Sunday...so did he use something Monday or is it just bad reporting?

Nope...none at all.

 

[katydid23]

I know this has probably already been asked and answered but there are sooo many pages to read so could someone help me out?

It says that there hasn't been any activity on Dylan's facebook, phone and text since the day he went missing but it also says his phone has not been used since 8pm Sunday...so did he use something Monday or is it just bad reporting?

No clear answer on that yet. We have discussed it and aren't sure if it was an oversight to say day he went missing, or a purposeful statement. We have had Sgt Bender clearly state that the cell was turned off on Sun night and remained off. But we have not heard for sure about his FB or any computer activity , if there was any at all.

 

[vasportsmom]

I know this has probably already been asked and answered but there are sooo many pages to read so could someone help me out?

It says that there hasn't been any activity on Dylan's facebook, phone and text since the day he went missing but it also says his phone has not been used since 8pm Sunday...so did he use something Monday or is it just bad reporting?

I think it is more like iffy reporting based on changing comments from LE. At one point LE made the "no activity since he went missing" comment which would imply Mon (unless LE realizes Shef has the wise and they are on board with Sun night), then there was a comment (on NG maybe) where LE seemed to confirm the 8pm Sun time Mom provided and finally there was a third comment from LE that confirmed it was Sunday night but was ambiguous about the time.


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[Eileen730]

I'm not trying to make inferences of guilt here, but if the police required a search warrant, then the father did not give permission for them to search. A warrant is not needed unless the property owner refuses a search. Also, if LE were able to obtain a warrant, then they had sufficient probable cause to get the warrant signed. I'm curious to know what that probable cause was.

I think they would get a warrant anyway this way they play it safe!

 

[jessieann]

I'm not trying to make inferences of guilt here, but if the police required a search warrant, then the father did not give permission for them to search. A warrant is not needed unless the property owner refuses a search. Also, if LE were able to obtain a warrant, then they had sufficient probable cause to get the warrant signed. I'm curious to know what that probable cause was.

I seem to remember from another case that a warrant is used if they think that there will be evidence that may (or may not) be used in court. If the evidence is found without a warrant i think it may be inadmissible in court... moo
Im sure an expert would know better than me though..

 

[TexasCharm]

I'm not trying to make inferences of guilt here, but if the police required a search warrant, then the father did not give permission for them to search. A warrant is not needed unless the property owner refuses a search. Also, if LE were able to obtain a warrant, then they had sufficient probable cause to get the warrant signed. I'm curious to know what that probable cause was.

Not true .. he had already let them in once. I think the warrant was procedure and cya in case this goes to court. And they stated their reason was that it was the last place Dylan was seen ...

imo

 

[hogwash]

yesterday someone posted on Dylan"s facebook page that she saw a light up in the mountains in vallecito, I am hoping that this was/will be checked out with tracking dogs,I am also wondering, because she looks like a teenager, if she might know something...right now it is anyone"s guess as no one really knows what happened to Dylan and ALL avenues and leads should be looked .JMO

 

[vasportsmom]

It has always been my experience that the longer it took my parents to discuss what I did, the more trouble I was going to be in when they got done.

Nurse has been gone a long time...


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[Elley Mae]

I'm not trying to make inferences of guilt here, but if the police required a search warrant, then the father did not give permission for them to search. A warrant is not needed unless the property owner refuses a search. Also, if LE were able to obtain a warrant, then they had sufficient probable cause to get the warrant signed. I'm curious to know what that probable cause was.

I am not sure on the particulars on executing a Search Warrant. But I think it is done to "secure" what evidence they do find should they find anything. And/or to execute the search with the home owner out of the house. jmo

 

[nursebeeme]

It has always been my experience that the longer it took my parents to discuss what I did, the more trouble I was going to be in when they got done.

Nurse has been gone a long time...


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You guys are not in trouble:rocker:

Here is the low down: we are going to let the media 'go there' first. So everyone just hang tight and stick to what has been reported.

You can speculate within those reports that are out there, with that being said.

With the above being said here is an example:

https://www.facebook.com/FindMissingDylanRedwine/posts/557900314236576

Where was Mr. Redwine between the hours of 1130 when he got home and 1630 when he checked with the friends if he already knew about the plans?

 

[SCHMAE]

...uh oh,I was following you.

Well then, we are lost !

 

[cindysue]

Iirc he was happy to let them search his house, but maybe they needed it(sw) to take his truck. I wonder how long it takes csi to examine a truck.

 

[TxLady2]

“I want everyone to know how much I love that boy and how much I cared about him, and how much I thank the community for all the effort that they put in,” he said. “He was such a wonderful boy. He meant everything.”

(From above link)

That is the first time I have saw that entire quote and I.DO.NOT.LIKE.


ETA: It is one thing to mix your tenses in these situations, even Mom has did it but that quote by Dad can not be read any way other than "my son is dead".

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Well, sorry, I don't read it that way. Things can be misquoted or misinterpreted by the media and often is. I certainly don't 'read' Dad as knowing that his son is dead just because he used past tense.

<mod snip>

Just saying.

 

[Teche]

Oh, that's wild! You have my special affection now! I absolutely love Acadiana!

OT...I'm from Acadiana too. Small, small world!

 

[katydid23]

Not true .. he had already let them in once. I think the warrant was procedure and cya in case this goes to court. And they stated their reason was that it was the last place Dylan was seen ...

imo

They did say it was the last place he was seen. That is interesting because it means they are now discounting any sightings they once discussed.

Also, they impounded his vehicles and brought them in for closer scrutiny. But that wasn't ' the last place he was seen.' So there must be a little more to it. JMO

 

[shefner]

You guys are not in trouble:rocker:

Here is the low down: we are going to let the media 'go there' first. So everyone just hang tight and stick to what has been reported.

You can speculate within those reports that are out there, with that being said.

With the above being said here is an example:

https://www.facebook.com/FindMissingDylanRedwine/posts/557900314236576

Where was Mr. Redwine between the hours of 1130 when he got home and 1630 when he checked with the friends if he already knew about the plans?

So you mean, we have to remember what was actually reported in MSM and what was conjured up in our own resourceful minds? Geez....no wonder I get in trouble

 

[SCHMAE]

You guys are not in trouble:rocker:

Here is the low down: we are going to let the media 'go there' first. So everyone just hang tight and stick to what has been reported.

You can speculate within those reports that are out there, with that being said.

With the above being said here is an example:

https://www.facebook.com/FindMissingDylanRedwine/posts/557900314236576

Where was Mr. Redwine between the hours of 1130 when he got home and 1630 when he checked with the friends if he already knew about the plans?

''Where was Mr. Redwine between the hours of 1130 when he got home and 1630 when he checked with the friends if he already knew about the plans?''

I'll bite. He was drivin the 19 miles round trip at some point to the friends house....... and my bet is there is a lot of open dark, damp , thick forest in between .

Actually then it says he went to the marshall's office? to report him missing ? or did it say he called it in. I wonder where that marshalls office is on the route.