Dylan Redwine Case Discussion Thread/Dylan's Remains Found, #2

[cindysue]

This is probably a dumb question, but is middle mountain on the way home from the McDonald's where they were assumed to eat?

 

[SCHMAE]

This is probably a dumb question, but is middle mountain on the way home from the McDonald's where they were assumed to eat?

From what I can tell that MM Road is not on the way to or from anywhere anyone was going at any time . There are a few cabins on it and then it winds around and dead ends into the forest after miles of deserted dirt road.

 

[Mitsana]

IMO network activity doesn't mean he was there, just that his electronic devices were connecting to wifi or cell towers whatever. I don't know how the swab testing works, but wasn't dylan at that house 2 months previous?

No one knows how it is that LE decided is was able to use the verb "confirmed" for his arrival. Another possibility someone mentioned is that Dylan might have used a password authentication on some account after arriving at MR's house.

It's also possible that I am reading too much into that word. Or even that LE is mistaken in their thinking. Many of the "facts" in the case have some level of uncertainty (is LE telling MR the truth? is MSM reporting accurately? is LE correct in their judgement? etc).

But, I think their choice of the word "confirmed" makes Dylan's arrival at MR's house pretty likely, so I tend to speculate on narratives that take that into account.

 

[SCHMAE]

No one knows how it is that LE decided is was able to use the verb "confirmed" for his arrival. Another possibility someone mentioned is that Dylan might have used a password authentication on some account after arriving at MR's house.

It's also possible that I am reading too much into that word. Or even that LE is mistaken in their thinking. Many of the "facts" in the case have some level of uncertainty (is LE telling MR the truth? is MSM reporting accurately? is LE correct in their judgement? etc).

But, I think their choice of the word "confirmed" makes Dylan's arrival at MR's house pretty likely, so I tend to speculate on narratives that take that into account.

I think the simplest explanation might be a text to one of his friends that said "we just got home or i'm at dads'' etc.

 

[katydid23]

I think the simplest explanation might be a text to one of his friends that said "we just got home or i'm at dads'' etc.

But LE has to know that a text is not really an absolute confirmation of his being there. In Hailey Dunn's case, there was a text supposedly sent from home at 3ish pm, but LE has always seemed to doubt it as a timeline verification of her whereabouts.

 

[Mitsana]

Maybe the cereal bowl confirmed he was there? Is MR the only one who mentioned the cereal bowl? Did LE ever say it was there, existed, taken for testing?

I didn't notice a cereal bowl listed on the search warrant (though there is some speculation that the list MR provided might not have been complete).

The line in the press report seems to be confirming not only that DR arrived at MR's house, but that he arrived about 8:00 (which is why I believe it is based on network activity which would have timestamping).

" Investigators confirmed that Dylan arrived at Mark’s home on Sunday at about 8:00 PM after stops at Wal-Mart and McDonald’s in Durango. "

 

[cluciano63]

I doubt LE noticed/ tested a cereal bowl on the first day and taking it ten days later would not be of any use, unless it had remained unwashed.

 

[al66pine]

IMO, Dylan made to it MR's house that night.

"3/19 LE press release (BBM):...

" Investigators confirmed that Dylan arrived at Mark’s home on Sunday at about 8:00 PM after stops at Wal-Mart and McDonald’s in Durango. "

Contrast...:

"Investigators learned that Mark has said he last saw Dylan at around 7:30 AM Monday, November 19, 2012 at his home in Vallecito when Mark left for Durango to run errands."

...
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S...BM, BBM, RBM.

Good catch, Mitsana.
The second statement (LE learned MR said) speaks volumes to me about the questionable credibility of the rest of the sentence.
In a press release yet.
Little likelihood of offhand phrasing.
No likelihood of a reporter misquoting.

Gotta stay alert to separate the wheat from the chaff.

 

[Insomnia Momma]

Please Don't read if you don't like gory details.


Someone posted up thread about possibly not finding forensic evidence, I just wanted to say that even with a no blood kill there would be some evidence depending on how fast a body would be say bagged or contained. A body, after death, will fully evacuate. There would be bodily fluids of some sort within (have to look again) I believe 30 - 45 min.

Sorry if I sound disrespectful, I hate that part of forensics.

 

[katydid23]

Please Don't read if you don't like gory details.


Someone posted up thread about possibly not finding forensic evidence, I just wanted to say that even with a no blood kill there would be some evidence depending on how fast a body would be say bagged or contained. A body, after death, will fully evacuate. There would be bodily fluids of some sort within (have to look again) I believe 30 - 45 min.

Sorry if I sound disrespectful, I hate that part of forensics.

I have always wondered if he hit him spontaneously, out of anger, and Dylan passed out, but did not die. But at that point, Mark would know he went too far past the point of no return. No way he could ever let Elaine 'win' like that because he would lose custody for punching Dylan. So he might have carried an unconscious child out of that home and things went sideways from there. JMO

 

[Lordeebee]

Now, I know I've had enough for the day when I saw this quote in this 6/27 interview ..... significant or not .... more deflection and blame.

"For the loving, caring peacemaker that he was,” Mark Redwine said. “I know that it was difficult for his mom and I to go through such a bitter divorce and I did everything I could to keep him out of the middle of it. He struggled with that and I'm not sure he felt he could talk to either of his parents about that and that's what's also hard."

http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3082040.shtml?cat=500

"I did everything I could to keep him out of the middle of it."

This sounds like a confession to me.

 

[katydid23]

"I did everything I could to keep him out of the middle of it."

This sounds like a confession to me.

Especially if you add the next part of his sentence.... " He struggled with that..."

 

[Mitsana]

"I did everything I could to keep him out of the middle of it."

This sounds like a confession to me.

Are you making a reference to Middle Mountain Road?

 

[Lordeebee]

Are you making a reference to Middle Mountain Road?

No, the statement was in regard to the problems between the parents I believe.

 

[Lordeebee]

No, the statement was in regard to the problems between the parents I believe.

While Dylan was still missing, MR made a similar statement --- that he felt that Dylan was seeing what was going on between the parents and that might be why he was gone.

 

[finder108]

While Dylan was still missing, MR made a similar statement --- that he felt that Dylan was seeing what was going on between the parents and that might be why he was gone.

I'll put this out there - not to judge, but to help anyone who may be going through a divorce with children involved.

IMO, ideally, each parent will teach their children to respect their ex. In spite of everything, that person is their parent. With divorce being an upheaval outside the child's control, this is the best thing we can do for them IMO. It's a rule of thumb - never speak ill of your ex in front of your children.

If a child is in the middle of a war between parents, he/she doesn't want to be there but was put there by the warring parties. Heck, the child didn't even ask to be born.

In writing this, I do know that there are truly some evil people out there and in this case, I would do everything possible to keep my children from anyone like that, even if that person was my ex. The problem is, we don't know what another person is capable of before they do it.

 

[Ghostwheel]

I doubt LE noticed/ tested a cereal bowl on the first day and taking it ten days later would not be of any use, unless it had remained unwashed.

BBM: Bleh!

 

[Ghostwheel]

Please Don't read if you don't like gory details.


Someone posted up thread about possibly not finding forensic evidence, I just wanted to say that even with a no blood kill there would be some evidence depending on how fast a body would be say bagged or contained. A body, after death, will fully evacuate. There would be bodily fluids of some sort within (have to look again) I believe 30 - 45 min.

Sorry if I sound disrespectful, I hate that part of forensics.

That does not appear to be correct. Looks like a maybe, maybe not kind of thing:
http://coronerstories.wordpress.com/2005/01/09/spontaneous-defecation/

 

[rosesfromangels]

Perhaps be drugged Dylan and removed him from the house. Cereal bowl?

 

[Ghostwheel]

But LE has to know that a text is not really an absolute confirmation of his being there. In Hailey Dunn's case, there was a text supposedly sent from home at 3ish pm, but LE has always seemed to doubt it as a timeline verification of her whereabouts.

True, but what are they going to say "Dylan's electronics were confirmed as arriving at Mark's house?" That might give too much away.