Dylan Redwine Case Discussion Thread/Dylan's Remains Found

[Ghostwheel]

BBM I actually agree with you. The important thing is I don't think LE is putting all their eggs in one basket.

I have seen the same thing happen several times in other missing children cases before an arrest has been made. People were just as 100% positively sure about who they thought did it as the majority are in this case. Those family members turned out to be innocent and everyone thought they were creepy and suspicious too. The child or children though in several high profile cases turned out to be kidnapped and murdered by a stranger or a non-family member.

What has struck me from the beginning once LE ruled runaway out is they have consistently thought that this was a kidnapping. I still feel it could be and it turned into murder to make sure the victim was silenced.

So until LE comes out and says they have arrested the actual suspect my mind is still open. I don't want just anyone to pay for what has been done to this precious child.........I want true justice for Dylan and that can only happen if the real suspect is arrested and convicted.

If it turns out to be MR then so be it.........let him rot but if it is not........then I hope and pray whoever did this to Dylan is caught, convicted and punished severely. I don't know if this state has the death penalty but if they do the murdering b*stard (whoever they are) deserves no less.

LE not coming out and putting the community on high alert means nothing to me. LE never came out not once in the Lunsford case nor the Greone case and told the community there was a predator on the loose.

Their objective is to keep the community calm. Plus it is extremely rare for a predator to hang around and strike again in the same area and LE knows that.

IMO

Do you mean predator in general or child predator? Because I don't agree with that. John Albert Gardiner comes to mind. As does the green river killer, BTK, Roger Kibbe, Anthony Sowell, Joseph Harwell, Ted Bundy... I could go on.

 

[Dr. Know?]

Sorry to bring up the radio show again but MR while stumbling around about whether or not he said he thought it was stupid to search the area Dylan's remains were found in, also stated he had searched up on Middle Mountain Road and all the tributaries (I believe he said) where people pull off the road. He mentioned culverts also. Does he tell on himself, one might think so? That was June 2nd.

Interesting. I'll have to listen to it again.

 

[katydid23]

Sorry to bring up the radio show again but MR while stumbling around about whether or not he said he thought it was stupid to search the area Dylan's remains were found in, also stated he had searched up on Middle Mountain Road and all the tributaries (I believe he said) where people pull off the road. He mentioned culverts also. Does he tell on himself, one might think so? That was June 2nd.

Interesting. I'll have to listen to it again.

I remember him saying that he went up on Middle Mountain 'to search' quite often. Now it makes me wonder if he didn't go up there and pick up and dispose of any bone fragments he would find. He insisted upon searching all alone. Who does that?

 

[Ghostwheel]

I remember him saying that he went up on Middle Mountain 'to search' quite often. Now it makes me wonder if he didn't go up there and pick up and dispose of any bone fragments he would find. He insisted upon searching all alone. Who does that?

Holy concept, Katman! What if he actually did? I don't remember him saying specifically Middle Mountain, but he did say he went up in the mountains searching by himself.

 

[AnotherSetOfEyes]

I haven't been in on this case from the beginning so I've been catching up since the discovery this week.

I will say the thing that keeps coming into my mind is that this could likely be what most of us feared after the CA trial. It seems this could be a case of a parent who for whatever reasons causes harm to their child then finds a hiding place; deflects with statements and wild goose chases until the weather makes the area unsearchable. Now that it is more searchable the remains are found and could this person believe that they too like CA will never be convicted because too much time and damage have occurred to the remains to ever prove anything?

This is all JMO. But all these things make me see similarities. If it turns out that the father is involved I will truly feel he used the CA trial as a way to get away with it. IMOO

You may be right on the money here. This may very well have been the plan. I don't think it will work out for this perpetrator, though. LE (possibly in some part because of the CA case) has moved purposefully and has not revealed much. When they make their move, I think it will result in a conviction.

 

[lonetraveler]

I've kept an eye on this thread since the beginning but had to take a break for a while (had spinal surgery) so I'm sorry if this has already been posted.

Were cadaver dogs ever used in MR home or truck? I know that dogs alerted on the lake but don't remember if I've read if they were ever used in the home or truck. Thanks.

 

[Foxfire]

I have not followed this case closely. I am not entrenched. I never gave this case the attention Dylan deserved. So my emotions are not high at all.

But I have been trained to assess the facts of a case rapidly and efficiently and see how the facts can be argued to fit the law and how to determine the credibility and logic of a story.

I did that here.

Ambers case happened close to where I live so I'm very familiar with it.

I see no resemblance between the two cases.

No resemblance, huh? gitanal, I would think that with your specialized training. You would have caught the synonymous parallelism of the father being the obvious suspect of the mother when a child goes missing at the hands of a stranger..
Just finished listening to WS radio interview with CR and watching Dr Phil #1 Dylan Redwine - Interesting at how many times Dr Phil uses the word 'I' in a segment...

 

[Ghostwheel]

http://www.koaa.com/news/around-200-people-gather-at-candlelight-vigil-for-dylan-redwine/

 

[cluciano63]

Even if one does not believe MR to be the guilty party, I have never quite understood those who had hinted that Elaine had "done something with Dylan." No motive on her part made any sense, not to mention lack of opportunity. I can see wanting to defend the father but seeing blame or insinuations toward Elaine really baffled me.

Sometimes I think MR has as much support as he does because he is a father; mother who "lose" or otherwise neglect their children often are looked at harshly by almost everyone, IMO. Anyway, just something I have been thinking of.

 

[cluciano63]

No resemblance, huh? gitanal, I would think that with your specialized training. You would have caught the synonymous parallelism of the father being the obvious suspect of the mother when a child goes missing at the hands of a stranger..
Just finished listening to WS radio interview with CR and watching Dr Phil #1 Dylan Redwine - Interesting at how many times Dr Phil uses the word 'I' in a segment...

Amber's stepdad did everything possible to try to clear himself, even taking as many as eight polygraphs. Yes, he was looked at and LE was wrong, but the man tried to get them to a point where they could on.

In my recollections as someone who has followed cases for many years, the behavior of MR since Dylan vanished is unlike any I have seen or heard of before. Sure, everyone is different, but generally there are some common denominators amongst parents with missing kids. This man had the least-engaged attitude I have ever seen, almost beyond belief.

 

[sayd]

Then you have to consider that he made Dylan out to be either fishing and got lost or a runaway. Wouldn't actually speak with Elaine, further bolstering the animosity between parents that Dylan would want to escape from. Add in how SHOCKED he was that Dylan had once hitchhiked with friends, so now Dylan might have done that alone. And that Dylan would talk to ANYONE, there were no strangers.

Yes, and he stated his fishing pole was missing. He wanted people to search the lake because Dylan wasn't there.

 

[vasportsmom]

Even if one does not believe MR to be the guilty party, I have never quite understood those who had hinted that Elaine had "done something with Dylan." No motive on her part made any sense, not to mention lack of opportunity. I can see wanting to defend the father but seeing blame or insinuations toward Elaine really baffled me.

Sometimes I think MR has as much support as he does because he is a father; mother who "lose" or otherwise neglect their children often are looked at harshly by almost everyone, IMO. Anyway, just something I have been thinking of.

I think that there is a faction that blames Elaine for no other reason than spite and shock value. They are so desperate in their "Mark is innocent" chant that they resort to outrageous tactics simply to be heard.

 

[sayd]

The real clinching issue for me, re Dylan walking off up the mountain alone (with ALL his belongings? and the handy dandy fishing pole) is that he was so eager to go and see his friends the next day.

Why on earth would he decide to go fishing/hiking on his own rather than go see those friends he was so excited to see?

It's not very feasible, in my mind.

If he had arranged to go -fishing- with his pals the next morning, yeah, maybe he did wander up the road with his fishing pole and all his belongings (like he planned to stay there?) and was picked up a pedo/serial killer/whoever.. before texting/contacting/speaking to ANYONE at all, despite multiple outlets for him to do so being available..

But again, I just do not think so.


I'm only stuck on the fishing pole -- because Dylan's father SAID it was missing right after Dylan vanished. It was an event of such "note" - while his son was out there, apparently missing - that he openly stated several times that the pole was gone.

Which, IMOOJMOetcetc, makes everything that little bit more hinky.

I posted before I had caught up. You said it PERFECTLY.

 

[cluciano63]

IMO, if MR did this...he said and did too many things. He pushed the fishing pole, yet all of Dylan's stuff was gone, which makes no sense IF Dylan decided to toss the line in the (miles away) lake while he waited for his ride. Why would he take everything he came with, and a fishing pole? Even if he was going to T.'s or to R.'s, why take everything? I feel like having ALL of Dylan's stuff being gone may turn out to be a mistake, if he is guilty. It makes no sense. If he had gone to where the RSO lived, as MR suggested at one time, why take his stuff? Even his dirty underwear...or we are supposed to assume Dylan left without even changing his socks and underwear? Yeah, I doubt it. And if he did, doubt he would stuff dirty ones in with his clean clothes. Some of his stuff should have been there, if he had gone out to pass time, or even look for a ride.

But NOTHING explains not answering calls or texts, before anything else.

 

[FruitTingles]

 

[Foxfire]

Amber's stepdad did everything possible to try to clear himself, even taking as many as eight polygraphs. Yes, he was looked at and LE was wrong, but the man tried to get them to a point where they could on.

In my recollections as someone who has followed cases for many years, the behavior of MR since Dylan vanished is unlike any I have seen or heard of before. Sure, everyone is different, but generally there are some common denominators amongst parents with missing kids. This man had the least-engaged attitude I have ever seen, almost beyond belief.

What was MR's occupation & any info as to his life experiences, if you know?
Seems, that MR has a damned if I do & damned if I don't attitude, imo.
I truly understand the adversarial relationship between MR & CR. Common in divorces where asset distribution is the main concern, as in their case.

I also understand CR's suspicion and frustration that Dylan went missing on MR's watch. It could have easily been the other way around, and I'm sure there would have been finger pointing by MR at her..

There is always finger pointing when there are no known suspects/POIs, or when a stranger/slight acquaintance abduction occurs...

Eleven year old Levi Frady was abducted 10/21/1997 in GA. His stepfather has caught hell for 16 years, yet serial killer Gary Hilton was sighted at the location where his remains were located on 10/22/1997. His sketch is on the GBI's website...
http://gbi.georgia.gov/case/unsolved-homicide-343

"It's still hard," Marilyn Hamby said of life without Levi.

There have been no arrests and no suspects, despite a $100,000 reward put up by two Forsyth County businessmen.

The disappearance and death of Hamby's son triggered the creation of Levi's Call, a statewide emergency warning system for alerting the public about a missing child. Levi is one of 31 children whose murders remain unsolved, according to the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.

"It's really hard for us to talk about Levi, but it's an honor for him that something good has come out of something so terrible," Hamby said of Levi's Call.

The warning system is Georgia's version of the national Amber Alerts, named for Amber Hagerman, a 9-year-old Texas girl who was kidnapped and murdered in 1996. Amber Alerts are activated when the child may have been removed from the area of abduction.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-58210.html

 

[Janeumayer]

In light of finding the remains I decided to listen to Dr. Phil's show with the parents. On Youtube I found part 1 and part 2. Oh brother....

I suspect the La Plata Sheriff's Department has watched it a few times too.

What made me fall off the fence was when MR drank the whole night before the scheduled LDT. He could have cleared his name then and there.

 

[Ghostwheel]

What was MR's occupation & any info as to his life experience?
Seems, that MR has a damned if I do & damned if I don't attitude, imo.
I truly understand the adversarial relationship between MR & CR. Common in divorces where asset distribution is the main concern, as in their case.

I also understand CR's suspicion and frustration that Dylan went missing on MR's watch. It could have been the other way around and I'm sure there would have been finger pointing by MR at her..

There is always finger pointing when there are no known suspects/POIs, or when a stranger/slight acquaintance abduction occurs...

Eleven year old Levi Frady was abducted 10/21/1997 in GA. His stepfather has caught hell for 16 years, yet serial killer Gary Hilton was sighted at the location where his remains were located on 10/22/1997. His sketch is on the GBI's website...


"It's still hard," Marilyn Hamby said of life without Levi.

There have been no arrests and no suspects, despite a $100,000 reward put up by two Forsyth County businessmen.

The disappearance and death of Hamby's son triggered the creation of Levi's Call, a statewide emergency warning system for alerting the public about a missing child. Levi is one of 31 children whose murders remain unsolved, according to the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.

"It's really hard for us to talk about Levi, but it's an honor for him that something good has come out of something so terrible," Hamby said of Levi's Call.

The warning system is Georgia's version of the national Amber Alerts, named for Amber Hagerman, a 9-year-old Texas girl who was kidnapped and murdered in 1996. Amber Alerts are activated when the child may have been removed from the area of abduction.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-58210.html

I read the thread, but I don't see where the stepfather caught hell for years. Could you direct me to more information on this?

 

[vasportsmom]

Beautiful. Perfect.

 

[ColdHands]

KT reporting from the vigil in Bayfield tonight:

http://www.9news.com/video/2517730229001/1/Candlelight-memorial-held-for-Dylan-Redwine-