Dylan Redwine Case Discussion Thread/Dylan's Remains Found

[Salem]

Respectfully snipped ~

He does not express an interest in finding the killer. IMO...MOO...most dads that I know would be tearing the countryside apart looking for whoever harmed their child.

I hear what you are saying - but I think I would be like this - looking for everything I could find. I can feel this need to put it all back together, so to speak.

I would want justice also.




Salem

 

[Foxfire]

Food for thought... Surprised that Dr. Phil didn't consider alcohol blackout as a possible motive for MD's bizarre behavior..
<sniped & BBM>

The victims do not remember any of their actions&#8212;nor did they intend or want them. They could not stop themselves because they were in an alcohol blackout, one of the more common effects of drinking, suffered by millions on any given day.

http://www.alcoholblackout.com/

CRIES FROM THE ABYSS
Alcohol Blackouts Revealed

by Donal F. Sweeney, M.D.
with Robert A. Liston

Long silenced by shame and stigma, alcohol blackout victims speak at last. In letter after letter, hundreds of them, they tell us more about blackouts than has ever been known before&#8212;what happens in a blackout; what brought it on; who has them and how often; the suffering and ruined lives associated with blackouts; the depths of our tragic neglect and ignorance about blackouts.

In graphic and intimate terms victims describe quarrels and physical abuse of loved ones, wild rides and tragic accidents, indiscriminate sex, rape, violent crimes, even murder, indeed, all manner of uncharacteristic and unwanted behaviors that are truly destructive, brutish and bizarre. And they have no control over or memory of it.

One voice from the Abyss: &#8220;When I drink alcohol, it&#8217;s like I die. Another person takes over my body, talks for me, walks for me, thinks for me.&#8221;

Another: &#8220;I wrote myself a letter while I was in a blackout, saying how much I hated myself and that when I wasn&#8217;t looking I was going to kill myself. It was like an evil alter ego talking. It was really scary.&#8221;

And: &#8220;My biggest regret following my son&#8217;s death is that I didn&#8217;t confront him in a big way about how dangerous it is to drink until you don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re doing.&#8221;

 

[asyousay]

So do you think LE is waiting on forensics on what they found with Dylan ?

I am guessing the ID'ing of the body was rushed due to needing to know if it was Dylan but other stuff could take days, weeks ?

 

[margarita25]

Foxfire, I think it is possible alcohol might have played a role here. Whisky is heavy duty (Jim Beam), etc.

 

[Eileen730]

BBM: I would do the same thing. I wouldn't be able to bear the thought of part of my child being out there still. I would want as much of him as possible found and put in one place, not scattered all over a mountainside and always wonder every time I looked at it how much more of my child there was out there. jmo

Well.....He didn't want to search for an alive Dylan but he will go out and search for his remains? All of a sudden its ok to search? No job orientation this week? He made sure he was out of town while this search was taking place. And this was not a volunteer search this was a LE search. A serious search.....I cant understand why he left, as a parent wouldn't you think he would and should be there?


I think all parents would want to find all of their child but this man didn't do much to find him when he was missing.

 

[SCHMAE]

This isn't directed at anyone in particular, but it's something that keeps popping into my head while reading here. People often say that they believe MR is guilty because they know someone just like him - and then proceed to explain the similarities. I find it ironic that so many men out there (and some women) are "just like him" but have never killed anyone. Wouldn't him being just like your old boss, neighbor, father, uncle, or brother-in-law's ex-wife's cousin's nephew who has never murdered anyone mean he's not as likely to kill someone as a person who is nothing like him but has murdered one or more people? Just a thought from a tired mind...

:twocents:

Great point ! How many times do we see a killer's friends, neighbors, family etc on a tv interview AFTER a killing say " wow I would never have guessed, such a nice guy, a quiet guy, a friendly guy, goes to church on sunday, out of the blue, we had no warning'' .? Seems a lot of killers have no one ever even see them use a swear word until one day they snapped !

 

[dlc]

http://www.9news.com/video/2517730229001/1/Candlelight-memorial-held-for-Dylan-Redwine

Did ER say she feels like she was living in a Disney movie that turned bad? That is a really odd reference since I can't think of a Disney movie that has ever gone bad, and I don't think your child being missing is like a Disney movie. I am confused :/

Rhetorical analogies can be tough, but I understood what she was saying. She clearly wasn't making light of the murder of her beloved son.

 

[dlc]

Why on earth do you need to take a photo of somebody on a phone for that to proof they always texted friends. LE have said

Exactly. LE has had access to his cell records for months, and they made a point to mention his extensive phone use. And before anyone asks, no I don't believe they would lie about them.

 

[dlc]

Thanks for this post, you echoed so many of my sentiments.
IMO an open mind is essential for this case, as it is so, so mysterious.
I simply don't think that MR saying something out of the ordinary alone contributes towards any argument that he is the perpetrator. Particularly people saying "I wouldn't have said that" - people grieve and react in different ways.

Welcome Prado! You're right, an open mind is essential. There's a voluminous amount of information out there on Dylan's case, and a lot to take in. Glad you're here!

 

[Dr. Know?]

Imamaze posted this in the media thread. ty ima.

Emotional Candlelight Vigil Held For Dylan Redwine

June 30, 2013 2:25 PM

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Mark Redwine says he&#8217;s been asked to retrace the case facts with investigators on Tuesday.

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2013/06/30/emotional-candlelight-vigil-held-for-dylan-redwine/

 

[Eileen730]

Imamaze posted this in the media thread. ty ima.

Emotional Candlelight Vigil Held For Dylan Redwine

June 30, 2013 2:25 PM

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Mark Redwine says he’s been asked to retrace the case facts with investigators on Tuesday.

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2013/06/30/emotional-candlelight-vigil-held-for-dylan-redwine/

Rut Roh!
Sounds like he has some explaining to do!

 

[SCHMAE]

Imamaze posted this in the media thread. ty ima.

Emotional Candlelight Vigil Held For Dylan Redwine

June 30, 2013 2:25 PM

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Mark Redwine says he’s been asked to retrace the case facts with investigators on Tuesday.

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2013/06/30/emotional-candlelight-vigil-held-for-dylan-redwine/

OH snap !

 

[Dr. Know?]

Kevin Torres &#8207;@kevinltorres 6h Just finished interviewing Dylan Redwine's mom. Very touching, personal interview. Tonight on #9news at 9/10.

 

[windrower]

I am looking at the location of Dylan's remains being right there across the way on the middle mountain road from the complete oposite perspective.

IMO if something happened between MR and Dylan that ended with Dylan dead that evening sometime after that last text, then that means this man had hours and hours and hours to dispose of his son's body. This is a man who travels a lot apparently and I assume in his travels he would be aware of many and myriad secluded out of eh way spots to dispose of a body far far from his home before he reported him missing.

So for me, the body being located where it was does not point to MR but rather it would make more sense if MR is the perp for the body to have been deposited somewhere much more distant and not in view of his home.

MOO

I hope whoever is responsible, MR or other is arrested soon and justice can be done for Dylan

MOO here, too.

I'm a few pages from being caught up reading, but a thought about MR going far from home to hide a body (if he had a body to hide): We all know what a small world this can be, and the farther MR traveled from home the more he might have been seen, not only by someone who knew him, but by traffic cams, security cams, etc., and how to explain all that? Much better to stay close to home, especially when that home is in a sparsely populated area, and an area with which he was very familiar.

IMO, just throwing out another perspective.

 

[DylansMom34]

Kevin Torres &#8207;@kevinltorres 6h Just finished interviewing Dylan Redwine's mom. Very touching, personal interview. Tonight on #9news at 9/10.

Kevin Torres has been the best reporter on Dylan's story. I'm anxious to see the interview tonight and plan on going through several tissues. My heart goes out to Elaine so much.

MOO

 

[floridamomma]

I had an ex bf a loooong time ago who reminds me of MR. I think that's why its easier for me to lean in MR's direction despite the lack of physical evidence: because I remember the way he reacted to situations (blame blame blame even when HE was clearly the one up to no good). He could be hanging in a tree naked and I could ask him what're you doing and he'd probably say "What are YOOOOOOOOUUUUU doing?!") While I can not prove MR has lied about anything, he reminds me of my x. JMO MOO IMO

this.

my ex hurts my kids when he's p*d at me. doesn't miss a chance.

scares me.

precisely why I've not been on the fence in this case. i am interested to read other opinions, but nothing has swayed my opinion.

i pray for swift justice. i pray for peace for Elaine and cory.

 

[lonetraveler]

If he had dropped his phone in the toilet, then where is it? Would he have taken a dead, broken flip phone with him?

And by my experience with kids that age, that break their phones, the FIRST thing they do is report that to the one person that can help them replace the phone or get a new battery etc. If he broke his phone, imo, he would have reached out to Mark or Elaine or Cory, to try and get it replaced. He was on vacation on his old hometown. He definitely wanted a phone to use so he could meet up with his old friends.

He had the computer right there, with wifi. He could have messaged his mom or brother. He had his i-pod, which he texted with the previous night.

He stopped using his cell at around 8 pm. I don't think he broke it. I think someone took it away in anger. JMO

BBM: I've been thinking this since the first. I believe that Dylan and his father started out badly as soon as Dylan got off the plane. I think that Mark was really Pizzzzzzzed when the plane did not come in as planned and took it out on Dylan and the bad mood continued from there. Mark has complained about the "stupid" movie and he complained about Dylan wanting to go to a McDonalds and not a restaurant as he wanted. Again, the bad moods continued. Then Dylan wanted to go immediately to see his friend and I feel sure that did not go over very well with Mark. Then, if they did actually get to the house, he started texting his friend. I think that just added fuel to the fire. I do believe that Mark took Dylan's phone away from him. That is probably what started the physical aspect and Dylan ended up dead and thrown down a steep gulley. JMO

 

[vasportsmom]

Imamaze posted this in the media thread. ty ima.

Emotional Candlelight Vigil Held For Dylan Redwine

June 30, 2013 2:25 PM

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Mark Redwine says he&#8217;s been asked to retrace the case facts with investigators on Tuesday.

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2013/06/30/emotional-candlelight-vigil-held-for-dylan-redwine/

Oh please let this be the beginning of the end. I'm glad that Dylan has been found but I don't think that Elaine and Corey will be able to rest until they get justice for him.

 

[song22]

This isn't directed at anyone in particular, but it's something that keeps popping into my head while reading here. People often say that they believe MR is guilty because they know someone just like him - and then proceed to explain the similarities. I find it ironic that so many men out there (and some women) are "just like him" but have never killed anyone. Wouldn't him being just like your old boss, neighbor, father, uncle, or brother-in-law's ex-wife's cousin's nephew who has never murdered anyone mean he's not as likely to kill someone as a person who is nothing like him but has murdered one or more people? Just a thought from a tired mind...

:twocents:

Yes, absolutely. I have said MR reminds me of my stepdad who was abusive and violent. He did not kill my mom but during the divorce we were on a heightened state of alert and very fearful that he might. But he didn't, thank God.

The immediate reaction that I got to MR and that others describe is probably this familiarity with a type of person who we have been afraid of in the past. But that is NOT the primary reason why I suspect him. I suspect him because the facts of the case lead me there. He was the last person with Dylan. Dylan suddenly stopped texting. I read Dylan's own words--I "heard" Dylan express his absolute commitment to meet up with his friends. He had plans and now I have to believe MR that Dylan just changed his mind.Those are the big red flags for me. Then I have MR going beyond the usual abusive husband type personality that I am familiar with--He was involved in some things that my stepdad would never had dabbled in. That's another red flag.

I've always said, it could be a random bizarre event with some random serial killer or SO. It does happen. And in that case, MR is just a creep and not a murderer. But I do believe that how you live your life matters. We are all broken and all capable of sin. I really believe that and feel my own failings in life very deeply. There was a time when I was younger that I was making bad choices and once the place where I worked was robbed (it was clearly an inside job). I didn't do it! But I was the wild girl. I was the partier and I was under suspicion. When you make bad choices in life it does affect your character and people make judgments about you. That sucks. It's just another reason to get your stuff together and live a good life.

I also don't agree with everything everyone throws out as suspicious. I thought that the chuckle and the comment "They can call it homicide all they want.." was horrible. But him wanting to go gather the bones. I would want to do that definitely. so no, I'm not jumping on some giant band wagon. I took notice of Ryan's comment about Dylan and MR being like best friends. I definitely filed that away as something to weigh carefully along with everything else. It didn't move me from my position that I suspect MR, but I didn't ignore it. It's there with its doubt.

Just some thoughts. JMO and all.

 

[Lurkiee]

Just a few thoughts going through my mind as I caught up on the thread.
As a child I loved camping, hiking, and fishing, with friends and family.
Did I ever do these things alone, no.
Also, regarding the fishing pole.
Could it have been used as a weapon and that's why it's gone?

/MOO