Ebola outbreak - general thread #1

[LinasK]

Mm

We would need to know when he became symptomatic. I really don't think this man snuck into the US to get treatment. I think I read symptoms start and rapidly progress to debilitating the patient others may needlessly die because the hospital sent him back home with antibiotics which are completely ineffective in treating viruses.

Liberia To Prosecute Man Who Brought Ebola To U.S.

Associated Press | By JONATHAN PAYE-LAYLEH Posted: 10/02/2014 1:14 pm EDT Updated: 1 hour ago




MONROVIA, Liberia (AP) — Liberian authorities say they plan to prosecute the man infected with Ebola who brought the disease to the United States, saying he lied on his airport health questionnaire.

With an Ebola crisis raging in West Africa, passengers leaving Liberia are being screened for fever and are asked if they have had contact with anyone infected.

On the questionnaire obtained by The Associated Press, Thomas Eric Duncan answered 'no' to those questions.
Neighbors say Duncan had helped a sick pregnant woman who later died of the disease.
more at link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/...ncan_n_5921848.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592

 

[effervescent]

Only if your an American citizen not a immigrant visa but I could be wrong.. But I also don't know the immigration status of the ebola victims other family members.. His wife is a US citizen and his children but the others I don't know

I was referring to the people who ARE citizens.

 

[SweetT]

Ya think? I wonder if it is a problem if vomit particles containing ebola are aerosolized by a power washer and they are inhaled?

Pics I've seen of ebola infected areas they wear biohazard suits while cleaning vomit and some type of chlorine mix to wash with afterwards.. This is scary if they're not doing that.. You can add them to the exposed list now.

 

[Ladylub]

They all seemed a bit defensive. We are getting more detailed info from non local media then we are getting our leaders. They do not leave me feeling safe. While I'm not freaked out its a bit scary.

I feel for those people that live in the community around there. I hope he lives but I still ticked at him for bring it here. Ticked at the hospital for not reading to stupid charts. ( last time I went to the ER I was asked 6 times if I traveled outside of the US.) If they are not going to read a chart why ask? Ticked at the government for not stopping fun travel in and out of those areas. If they are going in and out to help stop the spread let them. If its just to visit better sit tight in quarantine for 21 days if its for fun.

 

[Le Singe]

I recall that someone had stated or wrote that the virus had mutated whereas previously people died within just a few days of contracting the illness.. Now we have a 21 day window. So it would ravage a village and then burn out not so anymore..

the window has always been 21 days usually people become symptomatic in least than 10 days but the longest incubation period ever seen was 20 days (not during this outbreak). You should check out the WHO website lots of good information on the FACTS of ebola, CDC website also. Remember these news outlets and especially crackpot blogs are sell you clicks (i.e. getting you to click on their website). One of there best ... probably the best sales tactic they have is scaring the poop out of you.

 

[Yoda]

Photo of vomit cleanup:

https://twitter.com/wfaachannel8/status/517739906211528704

he he is using a pressure washer.!!' I am sure S*** flew everywhere!!!!

 

[Le Singe]

I didn't buy duct tape either and yea hand sanitizer would be pretty worthless against a virus duh... Smh

supposedly a very diluted bleach solution is what works. Bleach totally kills ebola.

 

[SStarr33]

the window has always been 21 days usually people become symptomatic in least than 10 days but the longest incubation period ever seen was 20 days (not during this outbreak). You should check out the WHO website lots of good information on the FACTS of ebola, CDC website also. Remember these news outlets and especially crackpot blogs are sell you clicks (i.e. getting you to click on their website). One of there best ... probably the best sales tactic they have is scaring the poop out of you.

Do you have any suggestions about where to find information regarding proper attire to clean up ebola vomit?

 

[elfie]

This is number is more realistic. I am concerned they said 12-18 confidently. I'm not a medical professional, but I was smart enough to know that was an unrealistic number. JMO



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/02/texas-ebola_n_5919522.html

"Duncan's nephew, Josephus Weeks, told NBC on Wednesday night that his uncle was not treated for Ebola until Weeks personally called the federal Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta to report the suspected illness. He said he made the call on the day that Duncan had returned to the Dallas hospital.

A CDC spokesman said Thursday the agency was seeking to confirm if and when such a call was placed."



The brother of the pregnant woman that Duncan helped came down with the symptoms around the same time that Duncan did, according to an article in yesterday's NYT, so the incubation period was approximately 9 days to symptoms, the time when the disease becomes contagious. Although, it has been found that the incubation period can be up to 21 days. The question is how negligent the hospital in Dallas was for not immediately putting in isolation and under a quarantine when he first presented at the hospital. I would also place a fair amount of blame on the CDC for not having issued strict protocols for every hospital in the US to isolate every person with symptoms who has recently traveled. If the disease is spread by bodily fluids it is certainly possible to contract it in an airplane toilet, following the use of a recently symptomatic person that has slipped through and been allowed to travel.

 

[SweetT]

the window has always been 21 days usually people become symptomatic in least than 10 days but the longest incubation period ever seen was 20 days (not during this outbreak). You should check out the WHO website lots of good information on the FACTS of ebola, CDC website also. Remember these news outlets and especially crackpot blogs are sell you clicks (i.e. getting you to click on their website). One of there best ... probably the best sales tactic they have is scaring the poop out of you.

It was an article written by a man who is a lab tech and his wife who works with viruses for a living.. They posted it on another site.. They'd been studying this particular virus for a while..

 

[LinasK]

I wonder at what point you have to answer those questions for the air travel. If he suspected he might get Ebola from the lady he handled, that would explain why he might lie on the questions in order to the to the USA in case he needed treatment. If he answered those question prior to treating the woman, then he didn't lie. However, imo, he had a moral obligation not to take that flight after he handled the woman.

This guy may be an American citizen. His mother lives in NC and so does his sister. I saw his FB page and I think he went to school here.

He lied at the airport in Liberia. This was after he handled the pregnant woman who died of Ebola!!! I've read that he is a Liberian National. He was working there, not just visiting. He up and quit his job to come here.

 

[passionflower]

We send 3000 troops, our best over here for what? So they can die or bring it back to us? I say stay out of the area! and lock our borders to people now, until this gets controlled. Could this be germ warfare? and the mysterious paralizing children disease, plus D68 virus....................

 

[SCHMAE]

Photo of vomit cleanup:

https://twitter.com/wfaachannel8/status/517739906211528704[/QUOTE
I saw this photo earlier and thought two things. Wow, they're just wearing street clothes and tennis shoes. Will they throw out their tennis shoes after? No gloves, etc. Second, kudos to the gal who's about to walk through the sludge they just sprayed off ! Where are her shoes now?

 

[Yoda]

Where is CDC? They need to be cleaning up the vomit and sanitizing the area. WTF are they doing???

 

[passionflower]

CNN just reported the sheets etc in Duncan's apt are still there. He slept with his girlfriend and a child sweating....................

 

[passionflower]

EBOLA can live outside the body!

 

[SweetT]

So vomit sprayed around all-over the place and likely down the drain where it will be reused for drinking water later right?

 

[SweetT]

EBOLA can live outside the body!

Yep up to six days

 

[popsicle]

CDC Emergency ‏@CDCemergency 54s55 seconds ago
.@art_fan_8000 #Ebola is not spread through insects and the virus dies through drying. #cdcchat

 

[Yoda]

Utah Primary Children's hospital testing a patient for ebola. http://article.wn.com/view/2014/10/02/Utah_s_Primary_Children_s_evaluating_possible_Ebola_patient/