Ebola outbreak - general thread #2

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This thread has gotten a flurry of alerts yet again.

Bumping these posts... they are there for a reason. Please post responsibly!

Look at your source before you hit submit. Is it a reliable source? Is it a blog? The topic is a critical one and we should be posting quality information.
Boss, I wondered about this one, even when you posted it before. .. 2) Snark, condescension and personalized posts need to cease.

Personalized posts I don't fully understand. Do you mean at another poster? Or relating a personal story ?
Also , I am guilty of making a couple of snarky comments re: the way this has been handled by Dallas County.
Are those the kind of posts you mean? tia
 
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Boss, I wondered about this one, even when you posted it before. .. 2) Snark, condescension and personalized posts need to cease.

Personalized posts I don't fully understand. Do you mean at another poster? Or relating a personal story ?
Also , I am guilty of making a couple of snarky comments re: the way this has been handled by Dallas County.
Are those the kind of posts you mean? tia


A personalized post is directed at another poster and usually has the word "you". It is more about the poster than the topic of the thread.
boss? lol
 
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Can you catch Ebola from an infected blanket?


....it is vulnerable to light, heat, dryness, and almost any detergent or alcohol you care to name.
In one laboratory experiment, scientists couldn’t recover Ebola virus that had contaminated a surface kept at room temperature. In another study, Ebola virus kept at cold temperature was recovered from plastic and glass surfaces after more than three weeks.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...can-you-catch-ebola-from-an-infected-blanket/

Michael Kinzer, a medical epidemiologist with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, who flew to West Africa in late July and spent five weeks in Guinea helping to respond to the Ebola crisis.
 
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A personalized post is directed at another poster and usually has the word "you". It is more about the poster than the topic of the thread.
boss? lol

Ok good ! Tks. Yes, I call all the mods 'Boss' :) Because I love YOU all :)
See, I was thinking personalized might be like relaying what we went through when we had a bad virus? Or traveled to Nigeria ? Or worked in health care or what not. Thanks for clearing it up .
 
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This is an interview with Peter Piot, the man who originally discovered Ebola back in 1976.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/04/ebola-zaire-peter-piot-outbreak

This is the section on possible global spread and virus mutation. I hope it sets some people's mind at rest over any immediate danger of mutation to become airborne - however it does contain the concern that mutation is indeed a risk:

Do you think we might be facing the beginnings of a pandemic?

There will certainly be Ebola patients from Africa who come to us in the hopes of receiving treatment. And they might even infect a few people here who may then die. But an outbreak in Europe or North America would quickly be brought under control. I am more worried about the many people from India who work in trade or industry in west Africa. It would only take one of them to become infected, travel to India to visit relatives during the virus's incubation period, and then, once he becomes sick, go to a public hospital there. Doctors and nurses in India, too, often don't wear protective gloves. They would immediately become infected and spread the virus

The virus is continually changing its genetic makeup. The more people who become infected, the greater the chance becomes that it will mutate ...

... which might speed its spread. Yes, that really is the apocalyptic scenario. Humans are actually just an accidental host for the virus, and not a good one. From the perspective of a virus, it isn't desirable for its host, within which the pathogen hopes to multiply, to die so quickly. It would be much better for the virus to allow us to stay alive longer.


Could the virus suddenly change itself such that it could be spread through the air?

Like measles, you mean? Luckily that is extremely unlikely. But a mutation that would allow Ebola patients to live a couple of weeks longer is certainly possible and would be advantageous for the virus. But that would allow Ebola patients to infect many, many more people than is currently the case.


But that is just speculation, isn't it?

Certainly. But it is just one of many possible ways the virus could change to spread itself more easily. And it is clear that the virus is mutating.

The article has such a sad photo of a little girl being led away by two people in space suits.
 
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This is an interview with Peter Piot, the man who originally discovered Ebola back in 1976.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/04/ebola-zaire-peter-piot-outbreak

This is the section on possible global spread and virus mutation. I hope it sets some people's mind at rest over any immediate danger of mutation to become airborne - however it does contain the concern that mutation is indeed a risk:



The article has such a sad photo of a little girl being led away by two people in space suits.

Suspected-Ebola-patient-i-001.jpg Hopefully this works.
 
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Lyra500, from your link. This is the photographer's twitter. I was hoping to find this ^^ picture there and any accompanying story about this little girl. But I've not gotten that far yet. This guy has lots of pics and interesting info on how things are going on over there. Definitely worth a look and a ' follow' if you do twitter, which I do not.

https://twitter.com/jeromedelay
 
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''As 9-year-old Mercy Kennedy sobbed along with neighbors mourning news of her mother's death, not a person would touch the little girl to comfort her.

Mercy's mother had helped to wash the pregnant woman's clothes, and had touched her body after she died at home when no hospital could find space for her, neighbors said.'''

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/66a8...texas-ebola-patients-neighborhood-scores-sick

460x.jpg GOD bless this child :(

ETA Why will they not touch her if it's only spread through fluids ? Why would not one person give this child a hug? Do they know something we do not?
 
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CBS News ‏@CBSNews 52s53 seconds ago
UPDATE: The man taken from a plane in Newark will be released after his symptoms were found to be unrelated to Ebola. http://cbsn.ws/1rM0sj0

I understand that the media is trying to keep people in the loop and I totally appreciate that however maybe instead of hyping things up they should wait until the test results come back. I do get though in this case it would have probably made it to the news anyway being that he was vomiting in an airplane and the CDC showing up in hazmat suits. I feel like the media is causing panic. Most of the cases they have reported on the test have turned up negative for Ebola. That's why I'm saying maybe they should wait until the test results before reporting. The newark case is different though that would have got out since CDC was involved and because of it being in such a public place.
 
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''As 9-year-old Mercy Kennedy sobbed along with neighbors mourning news of her mother's death, not a person would touch the little girl to comfort her.

Mercy's mother had helped to wash the pregnant woman's clothes, and had touched her body after she died at home when no hospital could find space for her, neighbors said.'''

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/66a8...texas-ebola-patients-neighborhood-scores-sick

View attachment 60622 GOD bless this child :(

ETA Why will they not touch her if it's only spread through fluids ? Why would not one person give this child a hug? Do they know something we do not?
Fluids as in sweat too. If Mercy has contracted it from contact with her mother, she could potentially pass it along to the neighbors just by them touching her if she's sweating. So so heart wrenching though. It makes you want to reach out to her and hug her. I can't even imagine the pain.
 
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https://www.facebook.com/jeromedelay

Here is his fb if anyone wants to have a look.

:( First thing on his page is a link to Time Photojournalism Daily, a picture of a little 4-year-old girl suspected of having ebola lying on the floor of a ward. There's another child lying on the floor in the background.
 
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Lyra500, from your link. This is the photographer's twitter. I was hoping to find this ^^ picture there and any accompanying story about this little girl. But I've not gotten that far yet. This guy has lots of pics and interesting info on how things are going on over there. Definitely worth a look and a ' follow' if you do twitter, which I do not.

https://twitter.com/jeromedelay

Thank you so much. I have a log on although I do not tweet.

Some very interesting pictures and stories. I am going to post this - Mercy's Story.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/66a8...texas-ebola-patients-neighborhood-scores-sick

460x.jpg


This is Mercy - mourning the death of her mother. No one wants to touch her because they are afraid.

MONROVIA, Liberia (AP) — Thomas Eric Duncan rushed to help his 19-year-old neighbor when she began convulsing days after complaining of stomach pain. Everyone assumed her illness was related to her being seven months pregnant.

When no ambulance came, Duncan, Marthalene Williams' parents and several others lifted her into a taxi, and Duncan rode in the front seat as the cab took Williams to the hospital. She later died.

Within weeks, everyone who helped Williams that day was either sick or dead, too — victims of Ebola, the virus that is ravaging Liberia's capital and other parts of West Africa, with more than 3,300 deaths reported.

Duncan is now hospitalized in an isolation ward in Texas after falling sick with Ebola following his arrival last month on a family visit. He has become a symbol of how the lethal disease could spread within the U.S.

Here in Liberia, however, he is just another neighbor infected by a virus that is devastating the cluster of tin-roof homes along 72nd SKD Boulevard where Williams lived.

"My pa and four other people took her to the car. Duncan was in the front seat with the driver, and the others were in the back seat with her," recounted her 15-year-old cousin Angela Garway, standing in the courtyard between the homes where they all lived. "He was a good person."

In the neighborhood where Williams lived, some people were no longer willing to take any risks Thursday, not after seeing what happened to those who showed compassion for the pregnant woman.

As 9-year-old Mercy Kennedy sobbed along with neighbors mourning news of her mother's death, not a person would touch the little girl to comfort her.

Mercy's mother had helped to wash the pregnant woman's clothes, and had touched her body after she died at home when no hospital could find space for her, neighbors said.
 
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Link please for the following claim:

'Ebola Is Winning': Sierra Leone Quarantines 1.2 Million People



UN confronts deadly Ebola epidemic - MSN.com
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http://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/other/un-confronts-deadly-ebola-epidemic/ar-BB5M5P7


Sep 25, 2014 - ... as the deadly Ebola virus forced Sierra Leone to quarantine a million people. ... "Today, Ebola is winning," said Joanne Liu, president of the aid group ... district of Moyamba -- effectively sealing in around 1.2 million people.
 
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Thank you so much. I have a log on although I do not tweet.

Some very interesting pictures and stories. I am going to post this - Mercy's Story.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/66a8...texas-ebola-patients-neighborhood-scores-sick

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This is Mercy - mourning the death of her mother. No one wants to touch her because they are afraid.

I just thought '' they can't put on a glove and hold her hand? put on something protective and give her a hug''.. Then I thought ' would I? ' Seriously ? Would I , knowing for certain she has been highly exposed to something like this and seeing her broken heart, would I put on a glove and hold her hand or be too terrified ? I am a big enough person to admit that I am a small enough person that I do not know if I would. :( That makes me a total a$$ .
 
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Double post, caught me again.
 
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Come on now make that a double or if one is trying to save their life a triple !!!

alcohol kills the virus so lets all start to drink! Margarita's for me PLEASE!
 
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''As 9-year-old Mercy Kennedy sobbed along with neighbors mourning news of her mother's death, not a person would touch the little girl to comfort her.

Mercy's mother had helped to wash the pregnant woman's clothes, and had touched her body after she died at home when no hospital could find space for her, neighbors said.'''

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/66a8...texas-ebola-patients-neighborhood-scores-sick

View attachment 60622 GOD bless this child :(

ETA Why will they not touch her if it's only spread through fluids ? Why would not one person give this child a hug? Do they know something we do not?

If you touch an infected person, you can get it yourself.
It's called direct contact.
 
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