Ebola outbreak - general thread #3

[Yoda]

The spread of Ebola in Europe is "unavoidable", the World Health Organization said shortly after the contraction of four new cases was announced in Spain.

http://rt.com/news/193900-ebola-spread-inevitable-wto/

 

[effervescent]

Honestly in my opinion a nurse assistant should not have been allowed to change this man's diaper.. Maybe in ordinary circumstances but nurse assistants are really not trained for infectious diseases etc like an rn would be

I would think they are ALL trained in isolation precautions. Even I am, as a housekeeper, though I don't do patient care. We know how to handle infectious wastes of all kinds, as well as knowing all the different isolation precautions for cleaning rooms. Nursing assistants especially should be trained in this, as they handle the bulk of the "dirty" parts of patient care where I work, when it comes to hygiene, body fluids (assisting with bedpans and bathroom trips more so than the nurses) and bedding changes.

 

[zwiebel]

Four people in hospital being monitored for Ebola in Spain now, according to this.

http://www.dw.de/spain-screens-four-after-first-ebola-transfer-in-europe/a-17980895

 

[Yoda]

Connecticut declares State of Emergency.

Gov. Dannel P. Malloy has signed an order that gives the state's public health commissioner the ability to quarantine anyone she believes may have been exposed to the Ebola virus.

Well, they are proactive considering they don't have any cases TMK.

http://m.wcvb.com/health/connecticut-declares-ebola-state-of-emergency/28988572

 

[Elley Mae]

Hell in the Hot Zone

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/2014/10/ebola-virus-epidemic-containment

A good read in how it went undetected for so long.

 

[Footwarrior]

BBM Nigeria quarantined 200 people. Anyone who had contact or possible contact was quarantined. That is a big difference IMO. The people were contained so that there wasn't a chance of them exposing anyone else if they started exhibiting symptoms.

http://saharareporters.com/2014/08/...ort-harcourt-200-are-quarantined-rivers-state

The outbreak in Dallas consists of one case, zero deaths and roughly 50 people under watch or quarantine. The outbreak in Nigeria had 20 cases and 8 deaths. The higher number put under quarantine was simply because more people had been exposed.

 

[jjenny]

I would think they are ALL trained in isolation precautions. Even I am, as a housekeeper, though I don't do patient care. We know how to handle infectious wastes of all kinds, as well as knowing all the different isolation precautions for cleaning rooms. Nursing assistants especially should be trained in this, as they handle the bulk of the "dirty" parts of patient care where I work, when it comes to hygiene, body fluids (assisting with bedpans and bathroom trips more so than the nurses) and bedding changes.

People in Dallas seem to be clueless. Power washing Duncan's puke off pavement with no protective gear is just one example of this cluelessness. Going into his apartment with no protective gear is another.

 

[jjenny]

The outbreak in Dallas consists of one case, zero deaths and roughly 50 people under watch or quarantine. The outbreak in Nigeria had 20 cases and 8 deaths. The higher number put under quarantine was simply because more people had been exposed.

Outbreak in Nigeria started with a single person-Patrick Sawyer.
The same as in Dallas-one patient. We don't know yet who is going to come up with Ebola.

 

[SweetT]

I would think they are ALL trained in isolation precautions. Even I am, as a housekeeper, though I don't do patient care. We know how to handle infectious wastes of all kinds, as well as knowing all the different isolation precautions for cleaning rooms. Nursing assistants especially should be trained in this, as they handle the bulk of the "dirty" parts of patient care where I work, when it comes to hygiene, body fluids (assisting with bedpans and bathroom trips more so than the nurses) and bedding changes.

I'm glad your confident in that. I myself worked in the medical field for a few yrs and have friends and family that still do but I personally would not be comfortable dealing with an ebola patient and I've had more training than a nursing assistant..It's a whole different level IMO

 

[Yoda]

The Norwegian woman, infected by the Ebola in Sierra Leone and currently receiving treatment in Oslo, will get the last dose of the virus treatment medicine ZMapp available in the world.

?? I thought it was already said there was no zmapp left?


http://www.thelocal.no/20141007/norwegian-ebola-victim-to-get-worlds-last-dose-of-zmapp

 

[SweetT]

?? I thought it was already said there was no zmapp left?


http://www.thelocal.no/20141007/norwegian-ebola-victim-to-get-worlds-last-dose-of-zmapp

Guess they had one more.

 

[Elley Mae]

WHO: Ebola spread 'unavoidable' in Europe due to extensive travel

http://rt.com/news/193900-ebola-spread-inevitable-wto/

WHO has so far placed no restrictions on flights to the worst-affected countries. While British Airways and Emirates are no longer flying there, Air France has only suspended flights to Sierra Leone – not Liberia, Guinea or Nigeria (though air crews were recently offered the option to refuse flying to those destinations).

 

[effervescent]

I'm glad your confident in that. I myself worked in the medical field for a few yrs and have friends and family that still do but I personally would not be comfortable dealing with an ebola patient and I've had more training than a nursing assistant..It's a whole different level IMO

I never said I was confident in anything...?

I said they are trained in how to handle infectious waste. I have been trained - if they are training housekeepers for it, you can bet nursing assistants have been trained as well. What they do with the knowledge they receive from training may be something different altogether, but I would bet it is mandated in every single state that nursing assistants have the same training for infection control as an RN or a housekeeper would.

 

[SStarr33]

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If you watch the rest of the show, you will see that anyone exiting the hot zone steps into a pan of bleach solution. The suits are also sprayed with bleach before being removed.

I suspect the nurse in Madrid was contaminated while removing the protective gear.

Um, I watched the entire show and saw it and other (what I consider) breaches of aseptic technique. Again, no way I would touch those boots without gloves.

 

[Footwarrior]

Outbreak in Nigeria started with a single person-Patrick Sawyer.
The same as in Dallas-one patient. We don't know yet who is going to come up with Ebola.

There CDC has actual expertise on Ebola. Perhaps it is time people stopped calling for the experts to be fired and let them do thier work.

Yes, there were failures at the local level in Dallas. Not because the CDC experts were wrong, but because the locals were not following the guidelines produced by the CDC.

 

[Tricia]

FYI if people start in with anything that so much as hints as being disruptive to the thread there will be an automatic time out.

Keep the discussion respectful and keep the cruelty out!!!

 

[SweetT]

http://www.elmundo.es/espana/2014/10/07/5433a9a7268e3e94268b4575.html

I dont read spanish but was told this says the Nurse in spain husband now in hospital with Ebola and another nurse that worked with her also. If anyone can translate that would be nice.

 

[SStarr33]

There CDC has actual expertise on Ebola. Perhaps it is time people calling for the experts to be fired and let them do thier work.

Yes, there were failures at the local level in Dallas. Not because the CDC experts were wrong, but because the locals were not following the guidelines produced by the CDC.

Nigeria and the CDCs guidelines are not the same.

 

[SweetT]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/ebola/article20959474/

another source, but husband not confirmed on this one, just says being watched.

 

[trigger]

http://www.elmundo.es/espana/2014/10/07/5433a9a7268e3e94268b4575.html

I dont read spanish but was told this says the Nurse in spain husband now in hospital with Ebola and another nurse that worked with her also. If anyone can translate that would be nice.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...antine-as-22-contacts-identified-9779682.html