Ebola outbreak - general thread #3

[sloane7777]

Isn't this a bit harsh? Did the ER staff appear to have dropped the ball? Yes. Should they have handled it better? Yes. However, I don't think for one minute they would not have admitted him for lack of health insurance.

My very good friend works as an administrator at a hospital , she says they cant turn away but the will do minimal treatment and get the uninsured out as quickly as possible , its an unspoken attitude in ER's.

 

[Sonya610]

CNN cannot report anything right. They just cause panic and confusion. JMO

CNN is based in Atlanta, they are probably getting the real info at the SOURCE when they chat with officials at CDC headquarters in Atlanta!

And yes, that would cause confusion! At first I thought the motivation for all of the BS was political, but now I am starting to suspect there are a bunch of idiots in charge of these situations.

Take care of your own. The officials have no clue (or they do have a clue and this is all intentional, either way take care of your own).

 

[trigger]

Sorry what patient? The Deputy?

OK. Sorry .....Found the answer

 

[LaborDayRN]

Sorry what patient? The Deputy?

I'm sorry Trigger. I was referring to the Inglewood CA patient. :blushing:

 

[FlamingoLady]

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-ebola-scare-la-county-20141008-story.html

Back to square 1 with my question since this article states the patient is quarantined until tests results come back, which they haven't.:gaah:

 

[LinasK]

Monning was not one of the 48 people being monitored by federal, state and local health officials because he never had direct contact with the patient. Monnig did enter the apartment where Duncan stayed after Duncan had been admitted to the hospital.
“He was in the apartment for 30 minutes, which we were told is no chance to contact the virus,” said Logan.
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/10/08/frisco-patient-exhibiting-ebola-symptoms/


How can they say this when it's been said Ebola can live on surfaces for 6 days??? Duncan was symptomatic by then and shedding the virus and vomiting!

 

[LinasK]

My very good friend works as an administrator at a hospital , she says they cant turn away but the will do minimal treatment and get the uninsured out as quickly as possible , its an unspoken attitude in ER's.

So is giving antibiotics considered "minimal treatment"? To me that seems Duncan was examined by a doctor who had to prescribe them.

 

[LaborDayRN]

You're right, why not LAX??? People fly to the West Coast all the time.

The are no direct flights from west Africa to LAX. That being said, I think the screening should be implemented with passengers who have made connections from the affected area as well.

 

[SweetT]

My very good friend works as an administrator at a hospital , she says they cant turn away but the will do minimal treatment and get the uninsured out as quickly as possible , its an unspoken attitude in ER's.

That's pretty crappy imo

 

[LaborDayRN]

My very good friend works as an administrator at a hospital , she says they cant turn away but the will do minimal treatment and get the uninsured out as quickly as possible , its an unspoken attitude in ER's.

I would have to strongly disagree with your friends assessment.

 

[Sonya610]

“He was in the apartment for 30 minutes, which we were told is no chance to contact the virus,” said Logan.http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/10/08/frisco-patient-exhibiting-ebola-symptoms/

Okay then. I trust the authorities and will listen to whatever they say regarding precautions.

 

[jjenny]

Monning was not one of the 48 people being monitored by federal, state and local health officials because he never had direct contact with the patient. Monnig did enter the apartment where Duncan stayed after Duncan had been admitted to the hospital.
“He was in the apartment for 30 minutes, which we were told is no chance to contact the virus,” said Logan.http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/10/08/frisco-patient-exhibiting-ebola-symptoms/
How can they say this when it's been said Ebola can live on surfaces for 6 days??? Duncan was symptomatic by then and shedding the virus and vomiting!

Yea, I know.
They send these deputies into the apartment unprotected. Because somebody apparently told them there is no chance to contact the virus? If you ask me, these people are as clueless as can be.

 

[LaborDayRN]

Back to square 1 with my question since this article states the patient is quarantined until tests results come back, which they haven't.:gaah:

At the top of the article it is updated in tiny tiny print! lol

 

[Dogface]

Gyms are ripe environments for sweat to be on mats and equipment. Be careful!

Yeah :-/ totally selfish of me to just think about myself but I am really annoyed, I just started a new lifting program and got into a new routine, and now it's being interrupted. When I think back to ALL the things I touched this morning there I want to wash my hands under scalding water. I'm hoping he just has a regular run of the mill bug, but sheesh, until we know, it's pretty scary to think about. Also, who in his circle might have been exposed?

 

[jjenny]

Another couple cents before I go...

Ebola exposure should be handled like a gun. Anyone who has good experience with guns has it drilled into them that, no matter how sure you are that it's unloaded or the safety is on, YOU HANDLE EVERY GUN AS IF IT WERE LOADED. (Obviously, I'm not suggesting that every person or object out there is a "gun." )

Still, I wish Spain had quarantined Excalibur until he was cleared of the virus, if he even tested for it or the antibodies.
TMK, He was under the care of a reputable veterinarian, and even if they cared nothing about the dog emotionally, by killing him they lost an opportunity to study the risks.

Overall, Spain managed to make our poor US response look good. :doh:

I still don't foresee epidemics here, but unnecessary risk taking invites unnecessary victims. That's not acceptable, imo.

It's hard to tell which one is worse, US or Spain.
That poor dog was killed for no reason, IMO. They didn't even know if the dog was infected. They could have kept the dog isolated until they tested him. That dog is paying the price for them not knowing what they are doing. Importing Ebola patients (who were dying anyway, and died anyway) into the country. Then killing the poor innocent dog. Shame on them.
Shame.

 

[FlamingoLady]

So is giving antibiotics considered "minimal treatment"? To me that seems Duncan was examined by a doctor who had to prescribe them.

IMO it's a moot point about having insurance or not. If the nurse or Dr thought he may have Ebola, they would NOT send him home with antibiotics just because he did not have insurance. Did the ER drop the ball on some level, knowing he had just come from Liberia? Yes, imo, but Mr Duncan plays a role too in that he lied about having exposure to someone with Ebola. Medical professionals do not have crystal balls or mind reading capability. He told half the story. I sincerely doubt they thought he could have Ebola but they sent him on his way.....Sheesh! Who knows if any insurance even covers Ebola!

 

[mck16]

Yuppers they couldn't manage to keep their official and hazmat suited nurse treating a dying ebola patient in the hospital safe despite the "precautions", so therefore the nurse's dog MUST be killed to prevent further infection.

They reported she remembers wiping her face while she still had gloves on. jmo

 

[jjenny]

So perhaps the deputy did contact the CDC and they told him to walk into the clinic. The CDC seems to be standing behind their statement & belief that these people are not in danger of catching ebola. I hope and pray they are correct.



http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/transmission/

How much would you bet on CDC being correct? The only thing I would bet is zero.
Ebola virus survives on surfaces and they know it. Why would they claim that there is no chance deputy could have been infected?

 

[jjenny]

They reported she remembers wiping her face while she still had gloves on. jmo

She says she doesn't remember. She thinks she might have done it (or something like that). I think they pestered her until she came up with some sort of an explanation.

 

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