Ebola outbreak - general thread #5

[Sonya610]

I didn't say dogs of ebola patients should be destroyed. But I would not be surprised if they , in fact, can carry it from one patient to another. The CDC does not know if they can but knowing what dogs do if they see vomit anywhere, I would not be surprised at all to learn that they can carry it from person to person.

Well of course, if they walk through infected blood they could potentially transfer the virus, just like SHOES can, or HANDS can, or MONEY can, or health care workers, or mail persons, or teachers, or cashiers, or well..... the list is endless.

 

[SCHMAE]

Oops, sbm.

 

[SCHMAE]

Well of course, if they walk through infected blood they could potentially transfer the virus, just like SHOES can, or HANDS can, or MONEY can, or health care workers, or food packers, or cashiers, or well..... the list is endless.

Right ! Dogs don't follow any type of hygiene protocol! In fact, they are quite the opposite and want to clean/ lick any contaminant they come across, trying to do a good thing . And dogs, unlike Snydermans, will not break quarantine to go get a latte. They will stay put obediently until their time is up

 

[popsicle]

Thinking about Zuckerberg's $25 million donation to CDC... it would have been nice if he did some sort of challenge to other $$$$ people.

 

[XXXXXXXX]

Just curious - has Duncan's family made a statement about the nurse who contracted Ebola while caring for him? Or. . . just nothing? It seems like it would be a gracious thing to do.

I've read nothing about his family since his death last week. Except for a link I can't post.

 

[SCHMAE]

Thinking about Zuckerberg's $25 million donation to CDC... it would have been nice if he did some sort of challenge to other $$$$ people.

I'm sure he could make millions just with FB users by letting us ' pay for ebola research ' by taking ads of our page .

 

[Sonya610]

“Recent studies conducted in West Africa have demonstrated that 95 percent of confirmed cases have an incubation period in the range of one to 21 days; 98 percent have an incubation period that falls within the one to 42 day interval,” the WHO report disclosed.

WHO also reported being alarmed by “media reports of suspected Ebola cases imported into new countries that are said, by government officials or ministries of health, to be discarded as ‘negative’ within hours after the suspected case enters the country.”

http://www.wnd.com/2014/10/who-ebola-out-of-control-in-west-africa/#VHucYehQb0fAYQDM.99

So in other words....all of these "negatives" could easily be FALSE negatives. And the time from exposure to outbreak can be WAY beyond 21 days.

 

[Yoda]

Just an FYI. North Carolina is home to Samaritans Purse which three of the infected Americans were associated with. Billy Graham and his charities are very highly regarded in the Carolinas. I am sure Franklin Graham, Billy's son who heads the charities now, was keeping everyone up to speed on the ebola situation. Jmo

 

[XXXXXXXX]

I see. I guess I missed the point of the initial question. I thought it was pondering whether or not the nurses' dog could ' transmit ebola' to another human, even though the dog cannot catch it herself. It would be a case of inter species transmission, NOT inter species infection, correct?

Wow! I don't mean to sound rude, but you seem to be reaching here. What's the difference between inter-species infection (in your mind) and inter-species transmission? IF there were an inter-species infection concern that would indicate to me an inter-species transmission? And there's no evidence of that except between African primates and human.


Primates being apes and gorillas. And it's been long known that in African countries that indigenous populations often eat "bush meat". Bush meat means that African populations tend to eat primate meat. Primate meat from Africa is the most know cause of Ebola.

 

[popsicle]

Meanwhile, pictures of Bentley are expected to be released on the DAS Facebook page later today, but they will be shown to Nina first. The dog is very important to the young nurse, who is the first person to contract the Ebola virus in America.

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/10/14/...unches-donation-drive-for-ebola-patients-dog/

 

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Peter Doocy ‏@pdoocy 12m12 minutes ago
39 healthy ppl volunteered for #ebola vaccine tests at Walter Reed Army Inst of Research in Silver Spring, MD; they won't be quarantined

 

[musicaljoke]

Again, I'll repeat I fear HUMANS more than animals. At this point, I fear that by handling currency at the grocery store that I'll be infected by sweat from someone who handled the currency.

I fear that groceries that I pick off the shelf may have been touched by an Ebola contaminated person. I fear almost anything I touch outside of my own home may be infected.

I know the CDC CLAIMS that the disease isn't contagious until symptoms develop. The CDC also claims by the time someone has symptoms they're too sick to get out of bed.

I don't trust that presumption, though. A lot of people have to show up at work, whether deathly sick or not because they're living paycheck to paycheck and have to pay their bills, rent, and feed their families.

I no longer feel safe with human contact. Not worried at all about animal contact as I've mentioned previously.

I'm sorry to see that you are so filled with fear. I suppose that nothing I write will diminish your fear, but, consider the actions of the family and friends of full-blown ebola victims in Africa. They sleep with, handle w/o protection, clean up after, and bury victims. They wallow in ebola virus, yet most of them will be fine. Ebola is not terribly contagious, not like measles, or the flu. One very sick ebola victim will transmit the virus to 1-2 people, about like HIV. Ebola is not going to destroy life as we know it. It's quite managable in countries like ours. Once the media tires of this disease, a new one will take its place in the press. I predict it will be Chikungunya.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2014/10/02/352983774/no-seriously-how-contagious-is-ebola

 

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Eric King ‏@EricKingNBC5 2m2 minutes ago
CDC- in last 48hrs-sent most experienced staff (exp w/#Ebola ) working w/people at hospital and county/state leadership #DallasEbola @NBCDFW

That should have been done back in Sept. imo

 

[LaborDayRN]

Wow! I don't mean to sound rude, but you seem to be reaching here. What's the difference between inter-species infection (in your mind) and inter-species transmission? IF there were an inter-species infection concern that would indicate to me an inter-species transmission? And there's no evidence of that except between African primates and human.


Primates being apes and gorillas. And it's been long known that in African countries that indigenous populations often eat "bush meat". Bush meat means that African populations tend to eat primate meat. Primate meat from Africa is the most know cause of Ebola.

Do you happen to have a link for this? TIA

 

[Yoda]

Liberia's Transport Minister Angeline Cassell-Bush has put herself into voluntary quarantine after her driver died of Ebola over the weekend, the ministry said in a statement

http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/10/14/health-ebola-liberia-idINL6N0S95M320141014

 

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Eric King ‏@EricKingNBC5 5m5 minutes ago
CDC- every hospital in the country needs to be ready to diagnose ebola. every doctor. every nurse. #DallasEbola @NBCDFW


Eric King ‏@EricKingNBC5 5m5 minutes ago
CDC- hospitals must ask patients where they've been. must sure up diagnosis. @NBCDFW #DallasEbola

 

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Chris Shaw ‏@ChrisShawFOX5 3m3 minutes ago
CDC: Creation of Ebola Response Team. Will deploy to any US hospital that has an Ebola case and will be on the ground w/in 24 hours #fox5atl

ABC News ‏@ABC 1m1 minute ago
NEW: CDC establishing Ebola response teams to deploy "within hours" to any US hospital that receives an Ebola patient - @ABCNewsHealth

 

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Eric King ‏@EricKingNBC5 36s36 seconds ago
State- initial 48 people being monitored have passed most dangerous period. the 1 contact of #NinaPham is doing well. #DallasEbola @NBCDFW

 

[SStarr33]

PPE Procedures for Suspected Ebola Patients for Parkland Memorial Hospital. Doesn't seem like these procedures are enough to protect our health care professionals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GNKJL1_ejg



Seems like it would be safer to have as many layer of gloves as you do layers plus one. Here 3 to start seems like it would be better.
This video she starts with only 2 sets of gloves. First one comes off first thing. Followed by gown and boots. Last set of gloves comes off the normal way. Hands washed another set of gloves put on to take off safety glasses, bonnet and mask.
They need to spray them down once they get out b/c if this was real the bottoms of her pants and shoes could be contaminated. She did a pretty good job not having to touch her face to get any of it off but could particles be displaced and dropped off those items onto her clothing?

After watching all these how to take them off videos we need to have more protection for the Drs and nurses helping infected patients.

I think she got ebola on her nose when she took off the cap.

I wish they could spray HCW with Luminol to make sure they didn't have any bodily fluids on them.

 

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Eric King ‏@EricKingNBC5 3m3 minutes ago
CDC was asked if she should have been part of that team treating such a major disease. #NinaPham #DallasEbola @NBCDFW

Eric King ‏@EricKingNBC5 17s18 seconds ago
#NinaPham recently received critical care credentials. CDC did not answer if that level of exp was appropriate for