Ebola outbreak - general thread #5

[Love Never Fails]

ALL of them have the exact same "very strong immune system?" Nonsense. I'm not going to waste any further time arguing something that is not in dispute amongst any of the major world health organizations and experts.

You misread what I wrote. I never said ALL. And again, how do you know? Yes, the world health organizations have done a great job so far haven't they? seriously???????

 

[SweetT]

Sonjay....
100.4 is the typical threshold, nurse had 99.5 when she boarded plane.

It's not an exact science and is a grey area when considering if she was contagious while on plane....

Bottom line, temperature, plus exposure to Ebola patient means she shouldn't have been on a plane.

(Paraphrased as best I could)

What was her temp when she got off the plane? Anyone know?

 

[okiedokietoo]

I am not panicking. However, please tell me since you ASSUME TO KNOW. When is the appropriate time to panic? I just wish people would tell the truth that's all.

I totally agree with you. And they keep reassuring us they have everything under control after the fact, after something happens

 

[Mercedes]

They may have transferred the second patient to Emory because it is one of four U.S. Hospitals that have a bio containment unit there. They have to stop the spread of this disease someway and fast!

 

[alwaysonmymind]

@AmandaNBC5: From Presbyterian: Emergency Dept still on divert. Hospital not cancelling elective surgeries, but doctors may cancel if they wish. @NBCDFW

 

[SurfieTX]

CDC | Ebola patient was on board CLE flight - WKYC.com
www.wkyc.com/story/news/local/cleveland/.../17300711/
WKYC

1 hour ago - WKYC has just confirmed that a Frontier Airlines plan has been sent to a remote runway.

 

[jjenny]

He's absolutely right. We can excuse lay people for not understanding disease processes, but you cannot convince me that this nurse did not understand the need to self isolate. ISOLATE means do not be around other people, certainly not for any non essential reason. Really, nurses tend to stick together, but this cannot be defended. Even if I was told by the CDC to fly home on a commercial jet, I'm an intelligent, educated human being who would know to call BS on that.

CDC wouldn't tell her to get on commercial jet. CDC claims she was not supposed to have been flying commercial airliner even before any symptoms.

 

[oh_gal]

News conference:

She flew into Cleveland to visit family and plan her wedding. Met with her mom and her mom's bf/husband.
If someone calls 911 in CLE, there will be a "tracker" attached to that call. Won't slow down response time of EMS, but will allow them to be prepared. Info will them be passed on to CDC in terms of being able to track it after the fact.

www.wkyc.com

 

[Gypsy Road]

Yes, that's the way they explained it on the news. It was funny, because they used that exact scenario, about what if someone infected with Ebola sneezes and you're near them, etc. -- what constitutes "bodily fluids", etc.

Heck they don't even have to sneeze on you do they? What about people who "say it and spray it" like my husband just did while talking to me in the kitchen? I know I'm being funny, but seriously....body fluids can be transmitted several ways. I used to think ..."oh...only transmitted by body fluids" and then thinking oh I am safe. Not so much anymore.

 

[matou]

Wedding stuff eh? Shaking my head. Jmo

 

[oh_gal]

So this second nurse flew FROM Cleveland to Texas. When did she leave Texas in the first place? This whole thing is making me insane.

She left texas on the 8th or the 10th, depending on what you hear. Was here in CLE till the 13th, when she flew back to TX

 

[cuffem]

What happens when an infected person is driving then stops in to the local convenience store for a drink and some gas or use the bathroom to go puke and haven't gotten to hospital yet ?

What will the airlines do if someone on an flight over the Atlantic starts vomitting and had loose bowels?There will be no way to make an emergency landing and no way to quarantine person and no hazmet suits for flight attendants.

 

[Gypsy Road]

I totally agree with you. And they keep reassuring us they have everything under control after the fact, after something happens

I agree also. They have nothing under control. They are winging it as they go. Dallas is a prime example of why there is good reason to panic. No one knows when or if this will become a huge epidemic. Panic is not always a bad thing. Panic can lead to logical thinking and planning. IMO

 

[alwaysonmymind]

And I've said this before: my normal body temp is 97.5 - below "normal"...there are probably people out there whose normal body temps are even further below normal than mine..so, 100.4 is not the same for me, as it is for someone whose normal temp is 98.6. What if this nurse's normal body temp is below normal?

Yes, my 'normal' is 97.1 and I feel quite miserable if my temperature goes over 99.1.

 

[Sonya610]

I am not panicking. However, please tell me since you ASSUME TO KNOW. When is the appropriate time to panic? I just wish people would tell the truth that's all.

When the stuff happening in Dallas starts happening in South America.

Then it is time to panic. Though perhaps U.S. HIPPA laws will prevent such news from reaching us.

 

[oh_gal]

Per news conference:
They keep saying she was asymptomatic, and they have no reason to believe the plane, jetway, or airport were infected. Yet they are taking "precautions".
The areas they are focusing on are the jetway (the device that takes passengers from the terminal onto the aircraft), the "hold room", restrooms on the concourse. Those are the key areas they're focusing on.

Asking why it took so long to have a press conference if they found out at 6:10 am. Mayor of Cleveland saying they wanted to "have all the facts". www.wkyc.com

....and the emperor played the fiddle as Rome burned...

 

[Gardenlady]

Wedding stuff eh? Shaking my head. Jmo

Cripes, she's never heard of Skype or FaceTime? :facepalm:


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[alwaysonmymind]

Timeline of Ebola in North Texas

http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/heal...45/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

 

[AlwaysShocked]

They may have transferred the second patient to Emory because it is one of four U.S. Hospitals that have a bio containment unit there. They have to stop the spread of this disease someway and fast!

They are transferring this patient because the Dallas hospital OBVIOUSLY does NOT know what they are doing in dealing with this type of an outbreak!

 

[okiedokietoo]

At symposium, vaccine seen as best hope for arresting Ebola

Robert Roos | News Editor | CIDRAP News | Oct 14, 2014

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2014/10/symposium-vaccine-seen-best-hope-arresting-ebola

As an example of current dogma, he cited the view that Ebola virus cannot spread through the air. Many virologists, he said, are concerned about the possibility of airborne transmission, and certain Ebola species have been known to go airborne in primates.

Michael T. Osterholm, PhD, MPH, of the University of Minnesota

My point - they are not 100 % sure that it is not airborne