'Enormous' repercussions as court weighs DNA sampling during arrests

[AzPistonsGirl]

all subject to operator error.

and arrested rightfully or not (paraphrasing) might be concerning. If someone is wrongly arrested, and yet their DNA sample taken at that time links them to some other crime (something innocuous, not murder - for argument's sake here) then what? does the wrongful arrest then negate the DNA sample? - in that it was obtained during a wrongful arrest?

Let's (not US per se, but attorneys and defendants) argue about that in court a whole bunch.

I just worry this means way more time and money and resources could be tied up with proving lawful arrests.

Please don't attack me. I am not sure which side of this issue I am advocating for, lol... but it is very interesting history-making we are witnessing!

 

[TrackerSam]

I doubt anything is negated. If you're pulled over for a busted tail light and LE smells marajuana, you're busted and it doesn't matter why you were pulled over.

 

[Reader]

This ruling to me is no worse than living under the Patriot Act, which we have survived. I had real doubts about how that would work here in the U.S. and those of us who expressed these doubts were told, 'if you haven't done anything wrong you have no reason to be afraid'. The same principle applies here AFAIC. I'm actually more in favor of this ruling since it will make those who have committed crimes and got away with them have to answer for their actions in court.

Besides, if an individual thinks he/she is mischarged with a crime due to the DNA, that's what we have defense attorneys for, to have the DNA retested, check into if it was contaminated and fight the charges if the person declares they are innocent.

Today, it has even come out in the news that all the excitement about phone calls being given to the gov't. has been going on since the Patriot Act, so as some of us warned back then, if you give up one freedom, others will follow. IMO.....

https://twitter.com/AP/status/342656975718469632


The Associated PressVerified account‏@AP
BREAKING: Senator [Graham] confirms NSA collection of phone records is a renewal of an ongoing practice.


Seamus McKiernan‏@chezseamus2h
Same as it ever was(since Patriot Act) RT @AP BREAKING: Senator confirms NSA collection of phone records is a renewal of an ongoing practice

 

[badhorsie]

I am a convicted felon (drug offence, I have been clean and crime free since 2002).. My DNA is in 2 states, the one I was arrested and convicted in and the state I moved to years later ( I was still on probation when I moved out of state and the rule is, if a felon moves out of state before "serving" their sentence they have to give their DNA to the state they move to.. AND pay for it themselves). I have no problem with this. I think the whole thing is a good idea, myself.

am also on the British database. have never done anything else wrong, yet I worry that I have by accident

 

[Reader]

Kind of off topic but I thought it was interesting and connected considering how we are being watched and catalogued:

Google surveillance far surpasses the NSA, author says

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_1...rveillance-far-surpasses-the-nsa-author-says/

(CBS News) WASHINGTON - Brent Scott said his email is being spied upon, but the culprit isn't the government -- it's the internet search giant Google. Scott is part of a nationwide lawsuit that charges Google with the "unlawful interception" of his personal emails...........

For years, Google's computers have scanned the content of millions of Gmails -- Google's popular email service -- in order to figure out what ads the users might respond to. Many users don't realize they've given Google permission to eavesdrop in the agreement that opens their account.

But that means Google is monitoring the emails of almost 50 million Gmail users in America. It's also recording everything you type on the Google search engine and, if you own a smartphone, Google is probably recording where you are. Scott Cleland wrote a book critical of Google's unprecedented power.

"Which agency has more personal information about Americans, the NSA or Google?" said Cleland. "Google, without a question."......more.....

 

[Ransom]

This is great news. ONE family (and friends) have pushed and promoted this across our 50.

http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/central/supco-katies-law-is-constitutional

Now the family that helped create it thinks the law will finally spread to all 50 states.

"This means so much to our family,” Jayann Sepich said.

Ten years after the rape and murder of Katie Sepich in Las Cruces, Katie's mother, Jayann Sepich, is confident what happened to her daughter won't happen to thousands of other people as a law made in her honor will continue.

"We’re just jubilant that the Supreme Court has said that taking DNA upon arrest is constitutional,” Sepich said.


DNASAVES.org http://www.dnasaves.org/

RIP dear, dear Katie.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katie's_Law

 

[Ghostwheel]

So if they find out a person was erroneously arrested, can that person get their DNA sample destroyed and removed from the system? It seems like there ought to be a provision for that.

 

[pferrin]

Those that have nothing to hide...hide nothing.

I will be glad to give my DNA.

 

[Soulmagent]

I have nothing to hide, but really I get arrested for writing a bad check or something and they get to take my DNA?

Will the LE database of DNA be studied and charted ? What if your DNA reveals medical infomation and mutations are they requried to tell you?

Much later when your DNA is read by the computer and find that certain genes can be passed on that cause this or that ,and they tell you about those mutations and you decided to have children and the mutation causes said medical issues are they going to charge you for harming your child? And convict on your own DNA.

Sounds nuts but really I dont think there is a limit to how creative the goverment can get with our DNA. I could see one day people with certain markers being made to pay extra taxes and so forth. Maybe the arrest reason is a kick off point to run some kinda large scale DNA research .

Most states State run labs that test for DNA are so backlogged that this even being talked about right now makes very little sense. Could you really image every arrest ending with DNA, that would in all likelyhood not even be entered into the system until the arrested person was already a suspect?

The cost of it implementing it seems unreal considering most people arrested are pot smokers and not murders or sex offenders.

 

[danzn16]

Interesting topic. Can't wait till i have more time to read all the responses here. Marking my spot till then. :seeya:


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