Events Post-911 Calls 7/15 to Arrest 7/16

[BondJamesBond]

The fact that history between April and July was deleted from the desktop on July 16 obviously shows that someone is trying to hide something that has to do with what was going on prior to Caylee being reported missing. The deleted info must have contained clues as to part of the story anyway.

I ask, why would KC not have deleted any info like that prior to July 16? One would think she would have cleaned up the desktop long before that day. Also, why delete anything after June 16? KC had not lived at Hopespring since that day, right? Does anybody have any ideas as to why she would not have cleaned up the computer earlier versus on the day she was about to be arrested? She must be dumb. It does fit in with other commentary regarding KC never thinking ahead and just doing what she felt was necessary in the moment though. Weird.

I'll answer one of my own questions. The history must have something to do with KC's communications with CA. That would be my guess anyway - at least the communications during June/July. Or it could have something to do with avenues CA was involved in during those months - ie, seeking counseling, communication with SP, etc. Can they tell if CA's stuff/work is still on the computer for those months?

Lemme clarify, Woe.

Suggestion is that Casey used the desktop to clean up content that was saved on other servers via the inet (e.g. MySpace & PhotoBucket). In that respect, it didn't matter what computer she used. Under the circumstances I'm suggesting...it was her only option.

Actually, since Casey left the Diary of Days blog - which IMHO revealed her intimate feelings about her own situation, what happened, and Cindy - IMHO she wasn't specifically trying to target communication 'tween the two of them. Rather...in this situation Casey was doing what she could do, as quickly as she could do it, to erase the tell-tale signs on her MySpace, Facebook, email and Photobucket websites of living la Bella Vita while her daughter was supposedly kidnapped. I haven't attempted on MySpace, but, I expect deleting wall posts is something more easily done in blocks than picking & choosing in the circumstances Casey faced w/ LE buzzing around. I have done on Facebook...and it is very quick & easy. Further adding support to the effort being done hastily, IMHO, is the failure to delete the Fusian pics from the Friday evening festivities the week of Caylee's demise.

Also as to the MS posts deleted...not everything up until 7/15...IMHO it was her attempt to be clever and hope that it wouldn't be obvious that some of the history had been deleted.

And for delay-@-all-costs, 10-mins-@-a-time Casey...I imagine the circumstances were perfect for her m.o. of cleaning up these items.

HTH.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I see. Thanks for the explanation BJB. I know very little about those things. I was thinking in terms of email on that computer and photos and searches, etc. I know there is a whole exploration of desktop computer searches, who may have made them, etc. too. I wonder why though, if you murdered your child you would not try to hide those things prior to being "caught". I'm just asking questions as they occur to me - I'm not against the idea that KC did the deed - just there are so many unanswered questions and complicated circumstances surrounding not only her defense but the family and friends too. Certain aspects of the case seem so strange to me and I'm hoping there will be explanations for them once the trial gets underway.

I couldn't sleep last night and I lay there and think about that hibiscus plant that was moved, why it was moved, etc. Too much yard work in the hot Florida sun during what must have been a very stressful time for the A's for me to readily believe it was scheduled for that timeframe.

Anyway the post communication can't reveal the truth if it's unavailable to us like not having the home phone records. Do you know why that is? Also, do you think KC was trying to protect certain people by deleting her MS and related stuff? What would any of it have to do with Caylee I wonder? It's unlikely she wrote on there that she had killed her child. :waitasec: You bring up a great point though that she forgot all about her party pictures that were taken just days after she may have killed her daughter. You'd think she'd attack those pics first. Nothing makes sense to me about any of her or her family's behavior.

 

[JWG]

** SNIP **

Now...after reviewing the D/S Acevedo info BeanE provided along w/ JWG's computer forensic timeline...lemme propose the following observations/speculation.

1) Activity <10:43PM can be attributed to Lee ropeller:, while Casey had been taken by Acevedo to Sawgrass :takeoff:.

2) Activity 10:43PM to 11:50PM can be attributed largely to Casey. This timing of this period beginning fits almost perfectly w/ the travel time analysis provided earlier in this thread Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Events Post 911 Calls Up to 7-16 Arrest.

The success of the logins betrays Casey's presence nline: vs. the pre-10:43PM attempts. Perhaps w/ Lee ropeller: in & out of the room, or possibly even keeping an eye out for Casey to rifle through accounts. Recall that LE was in the process of bringing the phone back to G&C's. Consider that the first call from the cell phone that pinged @ G&C's was precisely @ 11:55PM. So, based on that timing...it appears to me that when LE returned w/ the phone THAT demanded Casey's immediate attention, put an immediate halt to the desktop activity, and triggered Lee ropeller: to leave for Tony's. This set the scene Lee described w/ Casey & LE and the phone (as he left).

3) 11:55 PM to 12:33 AM LE kept Casey occupied w/ her phone calling people.

4) 12:33 AM to 01:05 AM Casey provided her handwritten statement. :deal: While Casey was writing Sgt. Hosey contacted Yuri.

5) 1:40 AM after Casey probably did Q&A regarding her handwritten statement...and before Lee returned to G&C's...Casey snuck in and attempted more computer activity...perhaps interrupted/discovered...explaining the lack of activity.

6) 2:32 AM activity at approximately the time Lee returned to G&C's and might've been engaged in the dumping out of the bag exercise w/ Cindy, Acevedo, et.al...where was Casey? On the computer! :computer: Perhaps this 2 minutes was all it took to delete the emails that were later witnessed by Lee to be gone. I could certainly accomplish that in <2 minutes.

7) 5:09 AM activity has already been attributed to Lee's research ropeller: while Casey was on her ride around courtesy of Yuri.​

Lemme suggest that event #2 above is when Casey deleted the MySpace entries April-July...and the images Jesse later described as being gone...perhaps some PB images too...gonzo. I've always been curious 'bout the deletion activity. :waitasec: It would've been uncharacteristically Casey to have deleted these items 'proactively'. No...:snooty:..Casey would've done it only when compelled to...IMHO. It would've also drawn attention to her other MS 'friends' to delete "current" activity...but deleting it from weeks/pages back in the history would've gone unnoticed. Perhaps some of the early discussion about Lee potentially facing charges...and "knowing" what he'd done per LE refers to his knowledge that Casey was destroying records/files. Of course...@ the time...Casey wasn't a suspect...she was the distraught mother assisting LE's investigation. Not suggesting that Lee ropeller: was altogether aware of what was happening. I can also envision how THIS MS activity could've been misconstrued (I couldn't resist) later by Cindy's account to have been Casey & Lee collaborating on the CayleeIsMissing page set-up.

Perhaps just restating what has already been observed/suggested? Alright, then...have @ it.

I have to admit, I never considered the activity being 1) due to KC and 2) this was when she deleted the postings and pictures. :doh:

But when you add all the pieces together, it makes perfect sense, and in fact the desktop's internet history now makes perfect sense. Way to think outside the box, Bond. resent:

Given her rush to do this work - essentially right in front of the OCSO (where were they, anyway? :waitasec - I am more convinced than ever that it was KC who did something quick to the laptop that caused the BSOD before being yanked out of Tony's by Cindy. Perhaps a quick attempt to format the C drive.

 

[JWG]

Anyone know Lee's AIM screen name?

I have not noticed it in any discovery. None of them that show up the morning of the 16th look like they would belong to him.

 

[BeanE]

I am more convinced than ever that it was KC who did something quick to the laptop that caused the BSOD before being yanked out of Tony's by Cindy. Perhaps a quick attempt to format the C drive.

I've always thought it was KC.

 

[JWG]

I've always thought it was KC.

Thanks BeanE. I've always felt the same, but enough others have posted viable explanations as to the culprit being Lee - or even Tony - that I have some degree of doubt. Now, that doubt is gone.

It was KC.

 

[sadyjade]

I have not noticed it in any discovery. None of them that show up the morning of the 16th look like they would belong to him.

If you would be so kind, JWG .. as to point me in the direction of these screenames, I may be able to help out. Back in July of 2008, I was watching, chatting, peeping into lots of the MS pages for any and all players in this case. A number of them still had messages from Casey, some from Lee also. If I am remembering correctly, some of the boys played poker online (and other games) and I want to say it had something to with Darth Vader ... I will see what I can find in my own history and get back to you fine feathered friends *grin*

 

[BondJamesBond]

If you would be so kind, JWG .. as to point me in the direction of these screenames, I may be able to help out. Back in July of 2008, I was watching, chatting, peeping into lots of the MS pages for any and all players in this case. A number of them still had messages from Casey, some from Lee also. If I am remembering correctly, some of the boys played poker online (and other games) and I want to say it had something to with Darth Vader ... I will see what I can find in my own history and get back to you fine feathered friends *grin*

That'd be great, SadyJ. See quoted section in post#78 above. Screenames there.

Its a long shot...but figured WTH...nothin' to lose, but sleep.

 

[BondJamesBond]

Given her rush to do this work - essentially right in front of the OCSO (where were they, anyway? :waitasec

*snipped & BBM*

I re-listened to the last 911 call earlier today and gained a better appreciation than I had before of how quickly this all went down for the first-responders. BeanE provided much of the detailed info earlier in this thread to do a better job than I am about to :bang: but in the interest of capturing the thought FWIW.

I expect this is old news for many/most, and perhaps I'm putting 1 & 1 together to make 3...but consider...

• The initial responding LEO's (Eberlin & Acevedo) were dispatched in response to the 911 call RE: stolen car
• Acevedo went to Colonial HS w/ Lee...which tells us she is relatively young
• Perhaps OCSO LEO's are dispatched based on their unit & the type of case (i.e. stolen vehicle)
• Perhaps OCSO LEO's are assigned to units based on training & experience (i.e. homicide more seasoned vs. larceny, etc.)
• IIRC, the final 911 call began ~9:40PM
• Per call audio & his statement, George arrived @ 9:41:24 while Cindy broke down in the garage on the phone w/ the 911 operator
• Per call audio @ 9:44:12 OCSO first responders arrived per Casey's comment to the 911 operator

So...OCSO first responders were prolly making the turn on Suburban shakehead when Lee got the ZFG revelation from Casey and Cindy placed the final call.

Based on the above info & a little speculation...

• I find it highly unlikely that the 911 operator - in the ~4 mins & 12 seconds she was on the phone w/ Cindy getting the NEW kidnapping story - had the opportunity to inform the first-responder LEO's (Eberlin & Acevedo) who were dispatched for the purpose of investigating a stolen vehicle (that was prolly also considered something of a family dispute) of anything regarding the kidnapping, "dead body in the damn car" comment, etc..
  
• This left Eberlin & Acevedo to deal w/ the developing situation until they and the dispatcher could close w/ the chain of command re: the changing conditions on the ground. All things considered, they did move quickly, IMHO.
  
• Since Cindy called in the complaint they were obligated to get her calm and get information from her. We know from Cindy's call w/ Debbie ~10:28PM she was still very distraught. They got statements from Lee, Cindy & George and Acevedo whisked Casey away to Sawgrass leaving the house @ ~10:16PM to follow-up on the story they were being given. Due process. While another LEO, Reydon?, met w/ Sawgrass maintenance, etc. Acevedo returned Casey to Hopespring ~10:43PM
  
• Virtually simultaneous to the Sawgrass trip another LEO, Williams, arrived @ Tony's apartment before 10:28PM and searched for signs of Caylee. He retrieved the cell phone and arrived back @ Hopespring sometime before 11:55PM based on the first cell ping there, and based on the ceasing computer activity, it seems likely to have been ~11:50PM. With a ~23minute travel time it appears Williams left Tony's apartment <11:30PM. Its a little unclear exactly when he left Tony's apartment, but, IMHO the timing of the first cell phone call from G&C's and the computer activity stopping is impossible to ignore. Since AT THIS POINT IN TIME Casey was still 'assisting' OCSO in the investigation, perhaps she was able to convince them that she could find ZFG's phone number by checking her online AT&T account via the desktop.

So...all things considered...Casey being allowed time on the computer 10:43-11:50PM....call it an hour...while LE...

(a) awaited the arrival of the cell phone w/ Williams, and
(b) awaited feedback from the initial Sawgrass management ZFG search w/ Fletcher, and
(c) awaited feedback from Salamat sent to check out the 232 Glenwood addy (Ricardo's) provided by Cindy from the Pontiac
(d) updated OCSO command, Sgt. Hosey, and
(e) prolly talked w/ Cindy, George & Lee intermittently, broke up shouting matches, etc.​

...doesn't seem unreasonable to me. :twocents:

IIRC, it took Fletcher some time to get a hold of the Sawgrass maintenance guy to research the apt. info since the office was closed. My guess is THAT delay is what bought Casey the time for her computer delete-a-palooza nline:. :waitasec:

I'm sure I've made errors...please point'em out and I'll edit as needed. TIA!

ETA1: Fixed some of the LEO's names.
ETA2: Fixed some more of the LEO's names & added the 232 Glenwood check

 

[JWG]

So...all things considered...Casey being allowed time on the computer 10:43-11:50PM....call it an hour...while LE...

(a) awaited the arrival of the cell phone w/ Williams, and
(b) awaited feedback from the initial Sawgrass management ZFG search w/ Reydon, and
(c) updated OCSO command, Hosey, and
(d) prolly talked w/ Cindy, George & Lee intermittently​

...doesn't seem unreasonable to me. :twocents:

** SNIP ** ... leaving just enough so that it is clear what I am referring to.

Bond, when you spell it out like that, it makes perfect sense.

We have had the luxury of looking back at the events with hindsight. In doing so, a lot of the evidence and the interpretation of same seems "obvious". Likewise with the behavior of the individual family members.

But looking at it from the perspective of the LEOs as events unfold, it does take time to ferret out information and begin to draw conclusions. So I appreciate you putting two and two together for me. :thumb:

 

[BeanE]

Most excellent, Bond. :blowkiss:

A few notes:

Code name Reydon = Rendon Fletcher

Since Cindy called in the complaint they were obligated to get her calm and get information from her. We know from Cindy's call w/ Debbie ~10:28PM she was still very distraught.

Don't forget that on the deputies' arrival, Cindy and KC were fighting to the point of screaming at each other, and had to be separated by LE. LE had that to deal with as well.

(a) awaited the arrival of the cell phone w/ Williams, and
(b) awaited feedback from the initial Sawgrass management ZFG search w/ Reydon

and awaited feedback from the deputy who went to what was supposedly ZFG's apartment at Amy/Ricardo's? Cindy got what she thought was ZFG's address/phone from her address book, and gave it to a deputy. Deputy went to the address to check it out, and talked to Amy/Ricardo there - it was their address that KC had given CA. My memory is failing me on what time the deputy went there.

And... now I'm remembering again about Cindy saying that KC was creating the MySpace *while waiting for the police*. I bet this is the timeframe she's referring to, and it further supports what yer sayin'.

Great work as always, my friend.

 

[sadyjade]

Bond, sadly ... I've had no luck finding much in the way of possible screen names identifications *sigh* I wont give up just yet though. I will continue to look back at what I still have somewhere in this box (pc).

 

[BondJamesBond]

*snipped to allow my musings*

:laugh:

Code name Reydon = Rendon Fletcher

You spoil me, BeanE. ​

Don't forget that on the deputies' arrival, Cindy and KC were fighting to the point of screaming at each other, and had to be separated by LE. LE had that to deal with as well.

and awaited feedback from the deputy who went to what was supposedly ZFG's apartment at Amy/Ricardo's? Cindy got what she thought was ZFG's address/phone from her address book, and gave it to a deputy. Deputy went to the address to check it out, and talked to Amy/Ricardo there - it was their address that KC had given CA. My memory is failing me on what time the deputy went there.

Clearer now more than ever to me that I've Columbo'd :sleuth: my way through to this to get to where you were back in post#11 :bang: Thanks for your patience. We could prolly dig through the timing of Amy's Facebook message 'bout all the drama...and oh-yeah, its-my-bday, dinner-@-Friday's tagged onto the end... and ferret out when D/S Salamat wrapped up @ their place. Leavin' that for another time/sleuther ​

And... now I'm remembering again about Cindy saying that KC was creating the MySpace *while waiting for the police*. I bet this is the timeframe she's referring to, and it further supports what yer sayin'.

That you can recall these details...:bowdown: and that they seem to 'make sense' with how we've laid this out now makes it much more real for me. I dunno 'bout anyone else, but, that's a real pay-off for me personally. Thank you for that. :thumb:​

Great work as always, my friend.

Well...Considering

(a) JWG did all the computer forensics heavy lifting back in March '09, :highfive: w/ a little nudge from ElizaAvalon, IIRC, to get those details for us, and
(b) you spent all the shoe leather back in December '09 (esp. Posts#11-~24) :blushing: to overcome the drudgery of the research, BeanE....and
(c) AZ, aafromaa, Cecybeans, Searchfortruth, etc. pitched in to keep things moving along.​

I'd say its a really nice WS team effort :grouphug:

I think my contribution can be summed up pretty well by...[ame="http://www.spike.com/video/idea-fedex/2419760"]Super Bowl Ads: FedEx - FedEx - An Idea - SPIKE[/ame]

Thanks for tolerating my curiosity. Call me when hand gesturing is the critical skill defficiency on the team, and I'm soooo there.

'Nuff of my babbling. Will leave discussing the impact of the delete-a-palooza 7/15PM to the 'myspace' thread in the main forum...and leave this one for more sleuthin' on the frivolities of 7/15PM-7/16PM arrest ​

 

[RR0004]

I edited the following post quote to reflect the same information it originally contained...only now the activity is attributed to the desktop @ G&C's house as JWG later indicated it should have been. References in the original post to Tony using it as the laptop have been removed accordingly. References to cell phone have been removed and timestamps are moved to the beginning of the paragraph for flow. All due respect to JWG's work on this. :thumb:

Doing this to focus on the activity in order to pose a few questions, observations & speculation...



Now...after reviewing the D/S Acevedo info BeanE provided along w/ JWG's computer forensic timeline...lemme propose the following observations/speculation.

1) Activity <10:43PM can be attributed to Lee ropeller:, while Casey had been taken by Acevedo to Sawgrass :takeoff:.

2) Activity 10:43PM to 11:50PM can be attributed largely to Casey. This timing of this period beginning fits almost perfectly w/ the travel time analysis provided earlier in this thread Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Events Post 911 Calls Up to 7-16 Arrest.

The success of the logins betrays Casey's presence nline: vs. the pre-10:43PM attempts. Perhaps w/ Lee ropeller: in & out of the room, or possibly even keeping an eye out for Casey to rifle through accounts. Recall that LE was in the process of bringing the phone back to G&C's. Consider that the first call from the cell phone that pinged @ G&C's was precisely @ 11:55PM. So, based on that timing...it appears to me that when LE returned w/ the phone THAT demanded Casey's immediate attention, put an immediate halt to the desktop activity, and triggered Lee ropeller: to leave for Tony's. This set the scene Lee described w/ Casey & LE and the phone (as he left).

3) 11:55 PM to 12:33 AM LE kept Casey occupied w/ her phone calling people.

4) 12:33 AM to 01:05 AM Casey provided her handwritten statement. :deal: While Casey was writing Sgt. Hosey contacted Yuri.

5) 1:40 AM after Casey probably did Q&A regarding her handwritten statement...and before Lee returned to G&C's...Casey snuck in and attempted more computer activity...perhaps interrupted/discovered...explaining the lack of activity.

6) 2:32 AM activity at approximately the time Lee returned to G&C's and might've been engaged in the dumping out of the bag exercise w/ Cindy, Acevedo, et.al...where was Casey? On the computer! :computer: Perhaps this 2 minutes was all it took to delete the emails that were later witnessed by Lee to be gone. I could certainly accomplish that in <2 minutes.

7) 5:09 AM activity has already been attributed to Lee's research ropeller: while Casey was on her ride around courtesy of Yuri.​

Lemme suggest that event #2 above is when Casey deleted the MySpace entries April-July...and the images Jesse later described as being gone...perhaps some PB images too...gonzo. I've always been curious 'bout the deletion activity. :waitasec: It would've been uncharacteristically Casey to have deleted these items 'proactively'. No...:snooty:..Casey would've done it only when compelled to...IMHO. It would've also drawn attention to her other MS 'friends' to delete "current" activity...but deleting it from weeks/pages back in the history would've gone unnoticed. Perhaps some of the early discussion about Lee potentially facing charges...and "knowing" what he'd done per LE refers to his knowledge that Casey was destroying records/files. Of course...@ the time...Casey wasn't a suspect...she was the distraught mother assisting LE's investigation. Not suggesting that Lee ropeller: was altogether aware of what was happening. I can also envision how THIS MS activity could've been misconstrued (I couldn't resist) later by Cindy's account to have been Casey & Lee collaborating on the CayleeIsMissing page set-up.

Perhaps just restating what has already been observed/suggested? Alright, then...have @ it.

Ok...haven't had time to finish all the reading...but what could have been so compelling at that point...so disastrous if it were to be found? Casey's daughter is missing...police are present in the house...statements are being given...why would Casey even think about getting rid of stuff? Maybe they were pics...but who the heck would care about how bad they may look when their daughter has been kidnapped? This is just so mind boggling.

 

[RR0004]

Most excellent, Bond. :blowkiss:

A few notes:

Code name Reydon = Rendon Fletcher



Don't forget that on the deputies' arrival, Cindy and KC were fighting to the point of screaming at each other, and had to be separated by LE. LE had that to deal with as well.



and awaited feedback from the deputy who went to what was supposedly ZFG's apartment at Amy/Ricardo's? Cindy got what she thought was ZFG's address/phone from her address book, and gave it to a deputy. Deputy went to the address to check it out, and talked to Amy/Ricardo there - it was their address that KC had given CA. My memory is failing me on what time the deputy went there.

And... now I'm remembering again about Cindy saying that KC was creating the MySpace *while waiting for the police*. I bet this is the timeframe she's referring to, and it further supports what yer sayin'.

Great work as always, my friend.

So she wasn't creating the MySpace the next day (the 16th)? She said she didn't know how and needed Casey to help her.

Sorry if I seem to be coming into this in the middle...I'm trying hard to catch up.

 

[Gypsy Road]

Bond, sadly ... I've had no luck finding much in the way of possible screen names identifications *sigh* I wont give up just yet though. I will continue to look back at what I still have somewhere in this box (pc).

I may not be any help what so ever here, but I seem to recall him using Vader something as well. I want to say it was Vader along with a number? I also seem to recall his screen name being the same one he uses on his ebay account. I hope I'm not totally dreaming this...my memory is so vague.

 

[cecybeans]

I'm not sure if this fits the timeline, but what I am picturing here is that KC originally tried to use the desktop to log into and eliminate what she considered damaging evidence in her MySpace account. Perhaps she asked LA to log in while she was busy being interviewed and he was initially unsuccessful, then she was able to log on. At some point, it may have been difficult for either of them to continue to use the computer unobserved. At that point, it would make sense they would go to the garage for their little talk, and maybe that is when KC asked LA to retrieve the laptop, but to attempt to further erase evidence before bringing it home, hence the length of time at AL's and the alleged bsod episode (unless someone has completely eliminated this as a possibility).

What this says to me is that very early on, maybe even before LE arrived, KC advised her brother that her accounts needed "cleaning" and they collaborated on how to do it without attracting undue attention. Perhaps this is more the gist of LA's little "aha moment" story of KC realizing that LE was going to insist on more information about Caylee, and since KC could only stall with fabrications, she figured that a search of her records would be next on their list. That took place supposedly while she was in her room. I'd think the garage confab was more about needing privacy to plan how to get rid of incriminating evidence using the laptop.

 

[darnudes]

8:01 AIM started up with screen name george4937 (GA)
8:17 Change to screen name caseyomarie (CA)
8:17 Contact made with screen name shirleymp79 (SP, Cindys mom)
8:19 Visit www.mywebface.com
8:33 Contact made with screen name l7tone (AL)
8:33 Contact made with screen name thatenglishguy84
8:33 Visit www.mywebface.com
8:54 Visit www.mywebface.com
8:57 Contact made with screen name pierce5585
8:57 Contact made with screen name slazz13 (plays poker- found them online)
8:57 Contact made with screen name sweetprincess735 (could be a site)
8:57 Contact made with screen name mistermayagi
9:21 Visit www.mywebface.com
9:33 Contact made with screen name houston143
9:35 Contact made with screen name pierce5585
9:38 Contact made with screen name pierce5585
10:09 Contact made with screen name bgamer2000
10:14 Visit www.mywebface.com
10:25 Contact made with screen name bgamer2000
10:35 Visit www.mywebface.com
10:49 Contact made with screen name adc4hire
10:49 Contact made with screen name whatshotorlando
10:49 Contact made with screen name sixsideddice3307 (CE - Ohio)
10:49 Contact made with screen name witeplayboi (AR)
10:49 Logout (?) screen name caseyomarie

 

[nyvictoria]

If you would be so kind, JWG .. as to point me in the direction of these screenames, I may be able to help out. Back in July of 2008, I was watching, chatting, peeping into lots of the MS pages for any and all players in this case. A number of them still had messages from Casey, some from Lee also. If I am remembering correctly, some of the boys played poker online (and other games) and I want to say it had something to with Darth Vader ... I will see what I can find in my own history and get back to you fine feathered friends *grin*

I recall something Darth Vader-ish, as well. Lee is a Star Wars fan so it makes perfect sense. I'm going to look back through some old hand-written notes (if I can find 'em) to see if I wrote it down. Will post if I find anything.

btw...Kudos to everyone working on reconstructing those first days. Great sleuthing!!


ETA: I found a sticky note in some old paperwork with "Mustang - VADER 1"

Not sure if it's his screenname or his plate/tag#

 

[The World According]

I edited the following post quote to reflect the same information it originally contained...only now the activity is attributed to the desktop @ G&C's house as JWG later indicated it should have been. References in the original post to Tony using it as the laptop have been removed accordingly. References to cell phone have been removed and timestamps are moved to the beginning of the paragraph for flow. All due respect to JWG's work on this. :thumb:

Doing this to focus on the activity in order to pose a few questions, observations & speculation...



Now...after reviewing the D/S Acevedo info BeanE provided along w/ JWG's computer forensic timeline...lemme propose the following observations/speculation.

1) Activity <10:43PM can be attributed to Lee ropeller:, while Casey had been taken by Acevedo to Sawgrass :takeoff:.

2) Activity 10:43PM to 11:50PM can be attributed largely to Casey. This timing of this period beginning fits almost perfectly w/ the travel time analysis provided earlier in this thread Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Events Post 911 Calls Up to 7-16 Arrest.

The success of the logins betrays Casey's presence nline: vs. the pre-10:43PM attempts. Perhaps w/ Lee ropeller: in & out of the room, or possibly even keeping an eye out for Casey to rifle through accounts. Recall that LE was in the process of bringing the phone back to G&C's. Consider that the first call from the cell phone that pinged @ G&C's was precisely @ 11:55PM. So, based on that timing...it appears to me that when LE returned w/ the phone THAT demanded Casey's immediate attention, put an immediate halt to the desktop activity, and triggered Lee ropeller: to leave for Tony's. This set the scene Lee described w/ Casey & LE and the phone (as he left).

3) 11:55 PM to 12:33 AM LE kept Casey occupied w/ her phone calling people.

4) 12:33 AM to 01:05 AM Casey provided her handwritten statement. :deal: While Casey was writing Sgt. Hosey contacted Yuri.

5) 1:40 AM after Casey probably did Q&A regarding her handwritten statement...and before Lee returned to G&C's...Casey snuck in and attempted more computer activity...perhaps interrupted/discovered...explaining the lack of activity.

6) 2:32 AM activity at approximately the time Lee returned to G&C's and might've been engaged in the dumping out of the bag exercise w/ Cindy, Acevedo, et.al...where was Casey? On the computer! :computer: Perhaps this 2 minutes was all it took to delete the emails that were later witnessed by Lee to be gone. I could certainly accomplish that in <2 minutes.

7) 5:09 AM activity has already been attributed to Lee's research ropeller: while Casey was on her ride around courtesy of Yuri.​

Lemme suggest that event #2 above is when Casey deleted the MySpace entries April-July...and the images Jesse later described as being gone...perhaps some PB images too...gonzo. I've always been curious 'bout the deletion activity. :waitasec: It would've been uncharacteristically Casey to have deleted these items 'proactively'. No...:snooty:..Casey would've done it only when compelled to...IMHO. It would've also drawn attention to her other MS 'friends' to delete "current" activity...but deleting it from weeks/pages back in the history would've gone unnoticed. Perhaps some of the early discussion about Lee potentially facing charges...and "knowing" what he'd done per LE refers to his knowledge that Casey was destroying records/files. Of course...@ the time...Casey wasn't a suspect...she was the distraught mother assisting LE's investigation. Not suggesting that Lee ropeller: was altogether aware of what was happening. I can also envision how THIS MS activity could've been misconstrued (I couldn't resist) later by Cindy's account to have been Casey & Lee collaborating on the CayleeIsMissing page set-up.

Perhaps just restating what has already been observed/suggested? Alright, then...have @ it.

Bond, you and JWG are amazing! We all appreciate you so.