Evidence Allowed/Not Allowed

Great thread idea AS! I've been wanting to ask this question for awhile: will the jury see all the photobucket images, esp. the one of the little girl and the teddy bear hanging that says 'why do people kill people who kill people to show that killing people is bad' (I'm paraphrasing but it was something like that).... also what about all those phrases that were on all her pictures (a fellow websleuther had the whole list on another thread)... the phrases like 'i'm not the girl next door i'm the b*tch down the street', and "deny everything". etc.etc.

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To me these items show MOST STRONGLY why ICA cannot claim that Caylee died of an accident, which to me is the only plausible avenue she'll have at trial time to explain how this all happened... i think they'll go with accident + too scared to tell her parents. :twocents:

ps- hey how about we all change our avatars when the trial starts to a pic of caylee? just an idea!

thanks!

I agree with you that her choice of photobucket images is haunting. But I don't think the state is going to show the, imo. The problem is that a lot of young people, my teens included, have tons of questionable quotes and pictures and lyrics on their photobuckets. So I think the jury might discount it's importance.
 
Katydid - yes true about teens in general but do you know what was the date that she uploaded that teddy bear photo (help - someone who is much smarter than me on this point will know....) wasn't it in late-June early-July? i thought the timeframe of alot of those pics was particularly relevent IIRC
 
Good Question!!

I would imagine so; that was the entire point of wanting the cheque forgery trial to come first. Then the SA could inform the jury of her previously convicted felon status.
 
Mississauga :seeya:

I read that whole forum this morning, and yes indeed accuracies have been astounding..just thought prayers might help :innocent:
Harbourfront. Hi neighbour!!!!! :seeya: LOL
 
Yes, I guess my concern is will the Prosecutors be able to effectively "paint the picture" of what actually went on?

It took me quite a while to realize what a schemer Cindy was. Because I didn't want to believe a loving grandmother of a dead child would do anything to help the murderer of the child. But maybe it doesn't even matter what Cindy did or did not do.

The SA makes their opening statement, saying "Here is what we think happened and we will prove it" and then they call witnesses to back up their theory, right? So I guess the whole infinite amount of time we all spent wondering what the heck was going on is kind of "short cutted" during a trial.

I do know that I thought Casey murdered her child from very, very early on. And yes, I know that being a liar doesn't make somebody be a murderer. But I also know that most murderers lie.

Just think back to the hearing where JA responded to the DT motion to have the DP taken off the table. Remember how professional and passionate he was?? Remember how ICA had to be restrained by AL after she advised her she couldn't make JA stop reciting the story of a baby girl looking into her mothers eyes as she snuffed her out. I have total confidence in the SAO and the tapestry they have planned on weaving, and practiced weaving ever since they found Caylees body.
Don't worry about CA. She's a schemer all right but the SAO has her number and will manipulate her right back IMO.
 
I would imagine so; that was the entire point of wanting the cheque forgery trial to come first. Then the SA could inform the jury of her previously convicted felon status.

I think generally the jury would not hear about previous convictions till penalty phase. However her stealing from Amy is relevant to the murder trial. as she comitted the cheque fraud whilst claiming her child was kidnapped. And she herself makes it relevant by claiming in her written statement " I have lied and stolen from friends and family, to do whatever I could by any means, to find my daughter."

I reckon the jury will hear about taking Amy's cheques and how she chose to spend them but not about the resulting 6 felony convictions until penalty phase, should there be one.

And honestly being a thief imo would not influence a jury when life and death are at stake.

moo
 
I think generally the jury would not hear about previous convictions till penalty phase. However her stealing from Amy is relevant to the murder trial. as she comitted the cheque fraud whilst claiming her child was kidnapped. And she herself makes it relevant by claiming in her written statement " I have lied and stolen from friends and family, to do whatever I could by any means, to find my daughter."

I reckon the jury will hear about taking Amy's cheques and how she chose to spend them but not about the resulting 6 felony convictions until penalty phase, should there be one.

And honestly being a thief imo would not influence a jury when life and death are at stake.

moo

And let's not forget that she even goes so far as to say that not only did she steal from Amy under the guise of finding baby Caylee, but she was "under desperation"!
 
And let's not forget that she even goes so far as to say that not only did she steal from Amy under the guise of finding baby Caylee, but she was "under desperation"!

Bold mine.

Yup! Desperate to do the nasty one-on-one-dance with another female on a table, wearing stripper boots and a push-up bra. *rolleyes*
 
I think generally the jury would not hear about previous convictions till penalty phase. However her stealing from Amy is relevant to the murder trial. as she comitted the cheque fraud whilst claiming her child was kidnapped. And she herself makes it relevant by claiming in her written statement " I have lied and stolen from friends and family, to do whatever I could by any means, to find my daughter."

I reckon the jury will hear about taking Amy's cheques and how she chose to spend them but not about the resulting 6 felony convictions until penalty phase, should there be one.

And honestly being a thief imo would not influence a jury when life and death are at stake.

moo
That quote from KC makes me ill.

Yeah, buying a hoodie with Amy's money, yet not calling LE really helped find Caylee. Also KC was helping find Caylee by any means in the beer isle, Blockbuster, tattoo parlour, etc.

I can't wait for this trial to start.
 
Well, we know the 911 calls are going to be ALLOWED. The jury is going to get to hear CA make the "smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car!" statement, as well as hear the coldness of KC's voice after CA basicly forced her to talk to them. That is a good start! :innocent:

Her written statement prior to the handcuffing. In there she also admitted to lying, stealing, whatever it took to find her daughter. Duck KC, stealing's comin in.

I was thrilled when we found that the 911 calls were going to be admitted. Two key things happen in that call, imo.
First, we have Casey spelling the nanny's name out to the dispatcher and so the phantom nanny will be included in the trial no matter what happens in these new motions.
Also, we hear Casey telling the lovely story of the nanny calling just the previous day, and how she talked to little Caylee who was just fine and wanted to talk about her mommy about her favorite book. Right. So right from the start we see Casey trying to convince LE NOT to look for her daughter.

Allowed:

Henkel Duct Tape.

31 days.

1st 911 call

ICA "Give me one more day."

CA "Ive given you a month."

http://www.wesh.com/pdf/27628654/detail.html
Order Denying Motion to Exclude Irrelevant Evidence of Stain in Trunk of Car


Stain in Trunk of Car evidence will be allowed IN trial

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/27677501/detail.html

Order Denying Motion to Preclude Phantom Heart Sticker Evidence

Heart Sticker Evidence allowed IN TRIAL

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/27677704/detail.html

Order Denying Motion to Exclude Unreliable Evidence(Post-Mortem Root Banding)

Post Mortem Root Banding and scientific testimony by Karen Lowe allowed IN TRIAL

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/27677667/detail.html

Order Denying Motion in Limine to Exclude All Evidence relating to Canine Searches and Alerts

Cadaver Dogs searches and Alerts allowed IN TRIAL

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/27693706/detail.html

Order Denying Motion to Exclude Unreliable Evidence Pursuant to Frye or in the Alternative, Motion in Limine to Exclude (Chloroform)

Chloroform Evidence
will be allowed IN Trial

That quote from KC makes me ill.

Yeah, buying a hoodie with Amy's money, yet not calling LE really helped find Caylee. Also KC was helping find Caylee by any means in the beer isle, Blockbuster, tattoo parlour, etc.

I can't wait for this trial to start.

:tyou: Websleuthers
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ITA.

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I don't know if we have any Rulings..but I believe the

Computer Forensic Report
and
Cell phone Ping Reports

are IN as well
 

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