Evidence connecting JR, CWW and/or MS to one another. How/when do their paths cross?

[lesajo]

New article: http://www.naplesnews.com/news/crim...-interest-in-ministers-disappearance_70184697

This case continues to amaze me with its twists and turns. I didn't see that coming, CWW a POI in a disappearance from 19 years ago! So hopefully that family can finally get some answers!!!!
Wonder what's next in this case.

 

[IQuestion]

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Have a look through some of the cases on this website where a husband murdered his wife. Quite often they are very happy to speak with media and LE are quite happy to allow them.

MS not speaking to the media means nothing.

BBM
I looked through cases on the website...NOT THE SAME....MS was in Connecticut, 1380 miles away at the time of Dr. Teresa Siever's murder. So, he is not going to go on TV and say, "I didn't murder my wife." (We've all got his alibi nailed down....isn't that convenient??) He is not going to go on TV and say, "Help find my missing wife." (His wife is dead, not missing....isn't that convenient??) He hasn't gone on TV to thank Sheriff Scott & LE agencies for all their hard work in tracking down the two men who killed his wife. (Who wouldn't take the initiative to at least publicly thank LE for finding the killers of your beloved spouse & partner??....Hmmm, MUST NOT BE CONVENIENT SINCE THE KILLER IS HIS BEST FRIEND??)
"where a husband murdered his wife" is NOT this case. TWO MEN VICIOUSLY ATTACKED AND KILLED A BEAUTIFUL,YOUNG MOTHER, IN HER HOME....and the one man, her husband, who was supposed to love and protect her...says, "No comment" when given the opportunity to publicly proclaim his shock and outrage. Not speaking to the media just isn't the kind of man I'm used to. I can not excuse his silence, since the arrests of Curtis Wayne Wright....his childhood friend, former tenant and FB brother....Oh brother! I don't know what is worse, The man who commits evil or The man who enables evil.
(No one could keep my husband quiet, no one.)

 

[cebee]

Reading over on the CWW thread, regarding the missing minister, and whether CWW was involved in that disappearance (and others) in MO...) and if I am reading correctly, they occurred when MS lived there.... Could CWW have something he is holding over MS head to keep him quiet? And is that something TS may have found out about?

 

[cebee]

This case continues to amaze me with its twists and turns. I didn't see that coming, CWW a POI in a disappearance from 19 years ago! So hopefully that family can finally get some answers!!!!
Wonder what's next in this case.

If MS knew his best friend was considered a POI in that case ( or even if he suspected his friend WAS involved in that case...) would that make MS suspect CWW was involved in TS death? Did he alert the police? Did TS find out something related to that disappearance/murder that would make CWW need to silence her?
And if she did... who told CWW??

 

[human]

If MS knew his best friend was considered a POI in that case ( or even if he suspected his friend WAS involved in that case...) would that make MS suspect CWW was involved in TS death? Did he alert the police? Did TS find out something related to that disappearance/murder that would make CWW need to silence her?
And if she did... who told CWW??

Best friends with a suspected killer drug user? More than best friends. Brothers.

 

[msboo]

Regardless of anyone's guilt OR innocence AND the Sheriff's mention of victims not including MS.... there's a good reason for 'no comment', not speaking to the media and/or silence. JMO... The Sheriff has told all to zip it----those swimming in that 'envelope of suspicion' don't know who IS or IS NOT talking AND if they are talking... they certainly don't know what's being revealed whether true or not. The 2 currently jailed & charged AND all other envelope players are in a big sh**storm just waiting for all to 'hit the fan'---knowing when or where.

Again JMO but the Sheriff may not want any 'innocents' in that envelope to know whether or not they're still under suspicion---publicly declaring such fact could prove detrimental to the investigation. Hell, leave them all scrambling! Just wait for CWW's arrival in Florida---possible death penalty (?) & he'll sing. Then JR will follow later---as surely Missouri won't (?) want to be responsible for housing him there (I would think).

 

[DexterMorgan]

If cw was writing prescriptions from docs pad; Wouldn't the people listed for the prescription still have to pay cash since she stopped taking insurance which would cover prescription cost?

Idk. So I'm just asking. Or are people thinking that he used the business credit to order bulk pills for the practice and then intercepts the delivery and then sell it on the side.

But if that was the case. Doc who probably checked her books regularly while doing checks and balances would have immediately noticed a big transaction for pills that she rarely prescribed due to her holistic healing and self help positive healing therapy.

 

[human]

With the computer access, CWW had all kinds of opportunities.

Medicare fraud pays millions.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_fraud

 

[msboo]

I wonder what categories are in that "envelope of suspicion". In other words.. maybe we are looking at the people in the envelope as complicit in the murder when maybe, in fact, there are other crimes that people will be charged with but not murder. Dealing drugs, making drugs, some kind of fraud? In other words, there may be more arrests but not necessarily for murder or conspiracy to commit murder? jmo I am wondering if there are 2 parallel investigations going on. One for murder and one for something else? Somehow they involve some of the same people and some new ones? MOO

Yes, categories..... I saw a crime docu recently, this detective described all being looked at almost like characters in a Chess game. Would 'set' them in different places---when not sure about completely eliminating a character he would 'set' them aside due to a lingering sense of possible involvement. This corresponds with Sheriff Scott's envelope​.

 

[human]

There are some weird "connectivity " people that are involved with what apoears to be fake banking.

I wonder what that is all about?

 

[CoolJ]

There are some weird "connectivity " people that are involved with what apoears to be fake banking.

I wonder what that is all about?

Where do you see this?

 

[Russian Blue]

Regardless of anyone's guilt OR innocence AND the Sheriff's mention of victims not including MS.... there's a good reason for 'no comment', not speaking to the media and/or silence. JMO... The Sheriff has told all to zip it----those swimming in that 'envelope of suspicion' don't know who IS or IS NOT talking AND if they are talking... they certainly don't know what's being revealed whether true or not. The 2 currently jailed & charged AND all other envelope players are in a big sh**storm just waiting for all to 'hit the fan'---knowing when or where.

Again JMO but the Sheriff may not want any 'innocents' in that envelope to know whether or not they're still under suspicion---publicly declaring such fact could prove detrimental to the investigation. Hell, leave them all scrambling! Just wait for CWW's arrival in Florida---possible death penalty (?) & he'll sing. Then JR will follow later---as surely Missouri won't (?) want to be responsible for housing him there (I would think).

I agree that they have probably all been told to zip it. It's a good strategy to keep everyone wondering and those who should be on edge. Sooner or later someone is going to roll on someone else.
On another note, I have to admit to misgivings about Mike Scott's initial interviews and probably do owe an apology to the good Sherriff. I was not the most flattering when he first came out talking about "this is the stuff movies and books will be made of". I implied that he may not know as much as he was putting out there, or that he was just overzealous and loving the limelight. He has proven himself to be very strategic, disciplined, well spoken, knows how to plant a good seed along with a good dose of craftyness.

 

[creepingskills]

I don't have a solid theory yet but a few thoughts; IMO CWW is indirectly involved in Universal Communications, maybe a silent partner.

A few things about this LLC stand out to me; entity is doing business in MO (kept active) for quite a long time even though MS moved to FL, and registers the business in FL. Could it be that the LLC in FL generates no income except that of the LLC in MO? I think so!

2000: MS registered Universal Communications, doing business in "sales" to Fenton, MO address. Same address CWW rented (and was asked to leave by MS because meth, per Skinner). The MO LLC filing is current, still lists the Fenton address. For what its worth, one of those people search sites says CWW lived at the Fenton address in 2000.

2003: MS registered (the MO) as a foreign LLC in FL doing business in "sales". FL LLC is active, filed annual reports.

IF its true that CWW was renting there from 2000-2003, why would MS register his LLC to a meth lab? I don't think he would, and I don't think that CWW would cook meth on MS's property. JMO, I think if MS was worried about asset forfeiture because of CWW, it was more likely related to the LLC, CWW, MS, and maybe laundering money for profit. CWW probably knows people who need money washed. This kind of illegal business is very lucrative. Less risky than drug trafficking, and someone like MS would be perfect (established, legitimate streams of income, not a criminal). Hypothetically...who's money? Where is this illegal source of revenue coming from in MO?

 

[human]

I don't have a solid theory yet but a few thoughts; IMO CWW is indirectly involved in Universal Communications, maybe a silent partner.

A few things about this LLC stand out to me; entity is doing business in MO (kept active) for quite a long time even though MS moved to FL, and registers the business in FL. Could it be that the LLC in FL generates no income except that of the LLC in MO? I think so!

2000: MS registered Universal Communications, doing business in "sales" to Fenton, MO address. Same address CWW rented (and was asked to leave by MS because meth, per Skinner). The MO LLC filing is current, still lists the Fenton address. For what its worth, one of those people search sites says CWW lived at the Fenton address in 2000.

2003: MS registered (the MO) as a foreign LLC in FL doing business in "sales". FL LLC is active, filed annual reports.

IF its true that CWW was renting there from 2000-2003, why would MS register his LLC to a meth lab? I don't think he would, and I don't think that CWW would cook meth on MS's property. JMO, I think if MS was worried about asset forfeiture because of CWW, it was more likely related to the LLC, CWW, MS, and maybe laundering money for profit. CWW probably knows people who need money washed. This kind of illegal business is very lucrative. Less risky than drug trafficking, and someone like MS would be perfect (established, legitimate streams of income, not a criminal). Hypothetically...who's money? Where is this illegal source of revenue coming from in MO?

I had links that are not showing up anymore. I had one on Intelius that showed that MS had a trucking company in MO. Gone!

Then I Had one where he was involved in a company that had weird banking in the Caribbean. Can't find it.

What is this all about?????

 

[creepingskills]

I had links that are not showing up anymore. I had one on Intelius that showed that MS had a trucking company in MO. Gone!

Then I Had one where he was involved in a company that had weird banking in the Caribbean. Can't find it.

What is this all about?????

VERY interesting. I hope we can find the source.

Circling back to Sheriff Scott's particular language...

Interstate Activity
Transportation
MO LLC funding FL LLC
Bank transfers
Online transactions
Servers located in other states

Connectivity
FL LLC to MO LLC, and the money cycled back through FL
MO LLC to CWW
Bank accounts connected to LLCs register in various states? FL, MO...Ohio and CA?:scared
CWW was probably paid by the Universal LLC, maybe LE connected this via 1099s issued by the LLC

 

[debbiegarcia36]

VERY interesting. I hope we can find the source.

I wonder if all those business's are a front for something else as someone mentioned above. LE probably has been investigating and this just may be one of the intricate parts. Could FBI have anything do with the disappearance of the info?

 

[creepingskills]

I wonder if all those business's are a front for something else as someone mentioned above. LE probably has been investigating and this just may be one of the intricate parts. Could FBI have anything do with the disappearance of the info?

I don't think LE would be removing any information about the LLCs. Its all there, except the trucking business spotted on Intellius. IMO, if something was removed from Intellius its probably at the request of the person. Probably by clicking "is this you? correct incorrect info!"

 

[SeesSeas]

Probably a pretty good way to distinguish businesses for MS is that he seems to use his middle initial for legal/corporate documents - MARK D SIEVERS

Look at the bottom section of this list:
http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/Co...OfficerRegisteredAgentName/sievers mark/Page1

 

[Sillybilly]

Careful folks ... there are at least 26 people by the name of MS so be 110% sure when posting that you have the right one. Questionable posts have been removed.

:tyou:

 

[Eileen730]

If cw was writing prescriptions from docs pad; Wouldn't the people listed for the prescription still have to pay cash since she stopped taking insurance which would cover prescription cost?

Idk. So I'm just asking. Or are people thinking that he used the business credit to order bulk pills for the practice and then intercepts the delivery and then sell it on the side.

But if that was the case. Doc who probably checked her books regularly while doing checks and balances would have immediately noticed a big transaction for pills that she rarely prescribed due to her holistic healing and self help positive healing therapy.

JMO
I don't think this has anything at all to do with drugs or prescriptions.
I think he was embezzling money.

and a lot of it!